Three children. Sorry.

Here here . Deepest sympathies to those left behind.
May he rest in peace.

RIP Adrian. You truly were a gentle giant. Lets hope these excuses for humans receive swift and harsh justice. It’s time for this country to say enough is enough.

RIP

Alan Shatter should resign, he is overseeing a crime wave and has proved he has not the empathy or mental capacity to tackle it. Justice must be harsh and quick in this case. A message has to be sent out, you commit murder, the keys get thrown away forever. My heart bleeds for those kids and his wife.

Shatter doesn’t talk about “zero tolerance”, he’s more about seeing the criminal as a victim of society horsesh1t. Prisons cost money, so it seems his two-pronged approach is to reduce the ability of the Garda to catch the criminal, while reducing the prisons to hold them in.

This is not the time and place for party politics. RIP to this brave man and condolences to his family and friends.

Sorry Mairead, in trying to see who would vote down your comment, I voted it down myself by accident, can’t undo it, can’t believe people would vote down these comments! Madge XXX

No love for Alan Shatter but he didn’t plan the robbery, he didn’t supply guns to the toe-rags and he didn’t force them to shoot him.

Incidents like this would happen irrespective of how much budget the Gardai get or who is in charge.

Deepest sympathy to the man’s family

Bullshit Colin, this is a new breed now, them lads were firing shots at the gardai, you read stories about car chases where the gardai are rammed and injured regularily enough. They (gardai) get ran out of estates in Moy Ross and parts of Dublin by nothing more than little scrotes in hoodies who’s parents are fckin usesless and can’t keep tabs on them. There is a breakdown in the system here. I am not saying it is not a worthy cause but can we please shift the focus from road safety to a more assertive and direct action by the gardai? i don’t see how having gardai sitting on the side of the road or looking for cars with no tax is being productive while you have lads running riot all over the place. Less checkpoints, tax checking can be done by traffic wardens, traffic wardens work for the council, the council is where you pay your road tax, not a garda station.

Its not merely the gouging of the police force that is to blame here, the legal & penal system are flawed and are no sort of a deterrent. We’re all familiar with the revolving door tag that our prison system has earned. The Justice System is not adequate and while Shatter has inherited a lame duck in taking on the portfolio, at the end of the day its still his responsibility presently. The book stops with the Minister for Justice.

parts of cork as well like togher, knocknaheeney, mayfield, etc

@Tony, I’d like it if more people highlighted areas like you have too because I’ve only picked the old reliables. This needs to be shown to people that dangerous driving isn’t the only everyday occurance here. Just because Dublin was named safest EU city to drive in doesn’t mean the gardai are running a tight ship crime wise..and that’s not their fault either.

@Marcoop , very well said. Refocus the resources to deal with stuff that harms society, as opposed to hurting revenues income stream (motor tax etc) . That being said, the reduction in deaths on the road is commendable, and drink driving/ speed etc should not be neglected.

@marc…..guartds can’t even get into knocknaheeney, not to mind be run out of the place…..

The argument to arm gardaí is irrelevant in this instance because both Gardaí were armed, being plain-clothes detectives. Being armed didn’t save Det. Garda Donohue, God rest him.

Although it’s hard for this to be understood, arming uniformed Gardaí will likely put them at greater risk. It increases the incidence of armed burglary because the criminal won’t want to take the chance without one. Also, if a Garda is going to carry a gun, s/he must be willing to use it.

The first Garda Commissioner, Michael Staines, said that the “Garda Síochána will succeed not by force of arms or numbers, but on their moral authority as servants of the people.” The same that applied 90 years ago applies today.

It was two unarmed, uniformed Gardaí who stood down and arrested the gougers who shot the leg of Charlie Chawke at The Goat a few years ago. Arming the uniformed Garda will not protect them, but increasing manpower, resources, detective units, dedicated police vehicles (not family saloons), will.

Fair point !

I wouldn’t be too sure about them being armed. Remember that in order to cut costs, Shatter and his lap dog Callinan decided to take guns away from detectives as the cost of bullets for them to train at the firing range was too high! Oh and when training for use in pepper spray they have to use empty cans and mimic their use! Top class policing!

Well said.

Brian back in Michael Staines era people respected the men (at the time) of An Garda Síochána. Don’t think that’s the case now. Murder was a rarity, definitely not the case as for the guard who arrest the sc#m who shot Charlie Chawke. He had the intelligence and bravery to put on a plain jacket and shout armed gardaí at the cowardly sc#mbag! Not sure about arming all gardaí but this country needs to have a think about where it wants to go.

15 years? More like 8 with about 5 years of that suspended. The killer probably won’t even be charged with murder just manslaughter. I sincerely hope I’m wrong though. A cold blooded killer like this deserves a long spell in jail. RIP Garda Donohue.

“sentenced to 15 years “,unless their mammy didn’t love them.
In which case they’ll be out in 5.

To the 24 red thumbs, what would be an adequate sentence in your eyes?

The death penalty was abolished in law in 1990, and has been specifically prohibited by the Constitution of Ireland since 2002.

Nothing saying it can’t be introduced

Sorry Ian, I hit red thumb in your comment by accident !!!

Sorry I can’t do that because these murderers hide behind what they consider to be politics. If you commit murder because of ‘politics’ you cannot then pretend that they are two separate issues when it is convenient.

@Padraic if you have information regarding this heinous crime I suggest you go to the proper authorities and report it?

It seems you know who is responsible or else you are entering libellous territory.

@Padraic: The people who may have carried this out REJECT politics. Please have some respect and leave your argument for another day.

The unfortunate part is all these gangsters/psychos use the label “Republican” as their cover for robbing banks, torturing people, killing police, and basically anyone they don’t like or who gets in their way gets their brains blown out. Even Gerry Adams (who I do not like at all) said these are criminals masquerading as “Republicans” in reference to all the these gangsters. When Gerry Adams calls these people “criminals” that says a lot.

padraig…,you are indeed a fool of the highest order…..

this was dublin crims

@kevin……it was most likely dublin crims not anyone calling themselves republicans

Not the time or place for party politics. RIP to this brave Garda.

a bigger fool by the minute

Well said Jim Walsh. This happened at my credit union, we are a community in total disgust and disbelief. R.I.P Adrian Donohoe.

I wonder too

Absolutely !

In the last two years Texas has executed 45 people, in the same time 15 peace officers have been killed in the line of duty and over a thousand murders have been committed , execution is not a deterrent.
Should Ireland brake with the rest of our European neighbours and join a list of nations that includes the People’s Republic of China, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Saudi Arabia? I don’t think so.
Even resent victims of terrorism such as the UK and Norway did not reintroduce capital punishment.

Can the journal verify these reports for us regarding the apprehending of suspects?

Leave the party politics out of this.

Is this not extremely similar to the murder of Detective Garda Gerry McCabe. Sinn Fein can issue an immediate condemnation this morning for nothing short if political astethics but ofcourse Gerry McCabe was different. Fair play lads your real decent !

This is not the place or time for it folks.
Park the political posturing and allow the Garda’s Family,colleauges and friends come to terms with the sad loss.

People will draw obvious parallels between this latest tragedy and what has happened in very recent history. Sinn Fein try to say Jerry McCabe’s murder was legitimate fund raising, when he was riddled bullets while he sat in his car (his weapon was on the back seat). Or that young Garda Gary Sheehan murdered in Leitrim was killed by the Irish Army. It’s disgusting to see them now issue hypocritical political statements on the murder of this latest garda, given the history of the IRA murdering gardai and Sinn Fein later justifying it.

so many queen licking red thumbs here

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0126/breaking1.html