Ryanair are probably looking for one that takes all major credit cards!!!!!

Defibrillators are not used for heart attacks!

They are used for cardiac arrests.

Heart attack is where a coronary artery is blocked by a clot. Cardiac arrest is where the heart has stopped completely. Yes a heart attack can cause an arrest but they are by no means the same thing.

Either way a disgrace they are not carried considering they’re in almost every sports club in the country

Come on now, it’s 2012 and we still don’t carry AEDs on our flights? One life saved is worth the investment.

It should be law that major shopping centres and other public places. I was trained to use one by the Civil defence and they are so simple to use.nnYes they are not cheap but what price would you put on a persons life?

bit off topic but : There is nowhere in law that states any public building is to have one, but it is in law that its forbidden to block or tamper with any safety equipment that is place. so if your local shopping center has one they cannot block access to it with stock or equipment same goes for exits.

Glad thejournal.ie was diligent enough to find out that neither major carrier has them. Otherwise it would be the usual ryanair bash-fest commencing.

a heart attack is just a general term, you can only use a defib when the electrical activity in the heart becomes erratic and needs resetting (to put in easier terms!) for example in ventricular fibrillation or pulseless ventricular tachycardia, defibs are no use if the heart and all it’s electricity has stopped all together as there is nothing to work with there, so your average basic life support is needed most here, that being said, things like a defib, adrenaline (especially this!), morphine and aspirin can be life saving, a life can be lost in a matter of seconds so they really shud have the basics on board!!

My airline carry them on all their 300 aircraft regardless of shorthaul or longhaul routes and all 15000 cabin crew are trained to use them from day one of their Aviation Med training which is refreshed and retested on an annual basis. nThe defibs involved are very user friendly and once the electrodes are attatched correctly they basically work themselves advising you to shock or not to shock as the case may be.nIv had to use it 3 times now in 10 years although cant describe it myself because all 3 situations happened so quickly you just launch into action mode! We saved 1 life, extended another for enough time to divert and get them professional help but unfortunately one died despite 2 hours of CPR and regular shocking by the crew but that was unique in that we were just that far away from an appropriate airfield!nnAs for Ryanair, well I’m no fan but I can understand why they don’t have them, their flights are mostly all short, all over land bar a few short over water hops and they can be down on the ground within minutes!nnI do still feel however that standards should be in place on all European airlines and airlines which operate into Europe to have defibs and enhanced medical kits like those my airline uses which arent a requirement but provided anyway!

oh so the excuse is they can land in an emergency!!??!! haha yea i wanna see them land within the 8-10 min that they have doing CPR alone and have an AED and the first shock in by then!!!! that’s just a joke! however up until about 9 years back there were no AEDs outside of hospital settings, we were one of the first in the country to get them in the hotel i was in and looking back now on how quickly the rest of the country has taken to them we couldn’t have believed it would have grown so fast, i have taught the use of AEDs over the last number of years and it’s fantastic to hear back the stories of those saved and even those who may not have made it but were at least given a chance! but it’s a joke that companies like this making millions on a monthly basis wouldn’t put them on AerLingus included, it’s not only trans Atlantic flights that need them! imagine the deal they would get when purchasing so many, it would be little or nothing to these airlines, they don’t have the excuse of the cost of staff training anymore either as it’s now covered in occupational first aid which would be mandatory anyway!

According to the law, the Titanic had enough lifeboats and the company only fitted enough to comply with the law. It seems very strange that one hundred years after that disaster companies are still coming out with the same verbal crap about life saving equipment!!

The commonest cause of cardiac arrest is ventricular fibrillation … thus, an AED is of paramount importance, given the relatively high incidence of acute coronary syndrome (“heart attack”) in the population. The fact that not all the cardiac arrests are caused by ventricular fibrillation and therefore not “curable” by defibrillation is true, but they represent a clear minority of cases.

In comparison to AEDs, drugs such as adrenaline and morphine are far less important. Morphine, in particular, can (often) be a useful adjunt in the treatment of acute coronary syndrome, but its use shows no reduction in mortality; on the contrary, aspirin carries a 30% reduction in mortality and is definitely very useful in such situations.

Choices should be made according to the frequency of pathologic events occurring in the general population. Otherwise, one could say that it is important to have a cobra antivenom on board, as a cobra might escape from a hand luggage and bite a passenger during a flight!

Absolutely disgraceful – passenger safety is clearly not your ‘number one priority’ Ryanair!! Why haven’t the IAA made this compulsory yet??

Just wondering with the metal connectors that go across the carpets and the metal seats would you be able to use one anyway?

Absolute disgrace all airlines should be carrying AED’s on all flights. n€1200 is not a large amount of money for an item that can save somebody’s life.

Or try this onennhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2022717/Ryanair-passenger-cardiac-arrest-treated-sandwich–CHARGED.html

Ryanair have shown time and time again that profit is the most important thing to them. And before anybody comes back to me with the same old tired line of ”begrudger, Ryanair knocker, great success story” perhaps you should have a read of thisn http://www.islandconnections.eu/1000003/1000043/0/31892/daily-news-article.html