Shitehawks!

Maybe their Queen who they swear such Loyalty towards should ask them to stop their protests. It’d certainly show if they were loyal or not.

True , morons with nothing better to do!

Idiots! That’s the first word that came to my mind. The courts should sentence those caught, to read!

There better be plenty of Guards around to arrest any of them that step out of line, they won’t have the numbers or local knowledge to get away as easily in Dublin. Any I hope anyone caught defacing our flag down here gets punished severely, you can’t get away with that shit here(hopefully).

Rubber bullets are only for Nationalist rioters.

How about the water cannon with some added dye and sticky material that doesnt wash off so the scobies can be later identified? Also if they love their “fleg” so much why not show your faces?

If wee willie frazer and his bunch of a hundred half-wits want to protest in Dublin next week, let them off. As someone else noted, the Tricolour won’t even be flying anyway, so they’re gonna look even more stupid than usual. I say the best thing to do is completely ignore them, don’t even bother with a silent protest. That will annoy them nicely.
I can only imagine the smug faces on them the last time they headed back up the road, after that “love ulster” fiasco.

What an absolute tool Frazier is he can’t even construct a sentence either! Dear Jesus I hope the gardaí take the legs off him next weekend

I don’t understand why they want to protest in Dublin. To me, it’s a contradiction of their beliefs to come down South. Does it not imply that they feel we are one nation and should therefore be treated the same by having the flag removed? It’s just my understanding of that this whole thing is about.. I can’t grasp it. Just wanting to cause more trouble I guess.

The irony being the Irish flag is only flown when the Dail is sitting. Which it doesn’t on Saturdays.

Man, are they going to look ridiculous.

Enda, Hope you don’t mind but I just took your comment. That is priceless :) lol

If they do that there is going to be riots in Dublin, their only coming here to set off people on our side of the border

@Ciara. You’re asking questions of a bunch of gormless fools who get angry when they have to think. Don’t think about it too much, they haven’t.
The Orange Order is no different than a bunch of football hooligans, except they’re older, more cantankerous and belligerent, and they wear bowler hats. They don’t have thoughts, they have brain farts.

Yes, I don’t think they really know why they are doing it. I live in Belfast and I have friends who don’t think they flag should not have been removed but they are not out protesting and causing trouble and unrest. They have voiced their opinions and respect the democratic decision made by those in the council. Right now there is a big gathering of protesters at the City Hall but a very heavy police presence.. Hopefully it will remain peaceful!

There protest down here is just a ploy to give bad press to Dublin by antagonising a riot. Media are focused on giving them bad press now and they want to say it’s not just loyalists who riot and get angry ovee there flag. Silent protest against them with back turned in them with tricolour held up is the only way if they come down here.no violence!!!!

They are hideous, nasty, bigoted sh1ts. The best thing to do is to let them at it and not risev to their bait. They WANT to be attacked because in their tiny little minds it would prove a point. Sadly, the equally dumb thugs in the RIRA and ?irig? want to oblige them.

I know it may be shocking but i have met northern lads (of the orange persuasion) to are oblivious to the fact they are from Ireland.
The loyalist education system really confuses geography with politics,look at the Ulster is british banners..try march in Donegal then!

Funny, many clowns dont realise the Union Flag represents their society by incorparating the cross of St. Patrick in its design? If thats is so then why does the Union Flag have to be removed from the city hall?

When Willie Frazer and the other 150 protesters come to Dublin they are doing so to make a point about cross border relations and the very biased way they are viewed in the Republic of Ireland. If they are met with a wall of hoddies in Celtic jerseys waiting to kick off then they will have made their point.

RTE and most media outlets in the Republic of Ireland make a very deffinate differentiation in their reporting between “bad” violence committed by dissident republican groups (IE Omagh Bombing) and “legitimate” violence carried out by Nationalists in the past (IE Arms Trial). This differentiation is made because those Nationalist groups that continue to commit violent acts are not on ceasefire or have not disbanded.

However NO such distinction is made in dealing with “Loyalist” violence. I have never heard the term “Dissedent Loyalist”. Last time I checked the UVF have decommissioned their weapons in front of independent witnesses to at least the same level the IRA did. This continued biased view prevelant in the Republic will only continue to hamper efforts made in BOTH communities to end sectarian violence of all kinds.

Vincent its no secret loyalists have the worse PR on earth,you dont need to demonise or villify them,they do it themselves
Democracy ended the Troubles,democracy brought about decomissioning of weapons but when democracy takes the flag down democracy is no good to them.
Reports of shots fired on the RUC/PSNI,burning tricolors when they may as well burn the Mexican flag for all the sense it makes.
They are their own worst enemy

fair points vincent but you know the reason they are coming to dublin is about maximum exposure and they are hoping the celtic wearing jersey idiots will kick off. id say they will send the most respected and well known and hope to get a reaction. I think the reason you don’t hear the words dissident loyalists is down to misinformation on our side but also to the fact that the loyalist community as a whole dont distance themselves enough from this kind of demonstration

I hope you can tell the difference between mindless tugs and Celtic fans.
Theses people don’t represent our club

Good man Eoghan, i would pay to be a guard for a day, give me a baton and let me go, i would love to beat all the way back over the border…

Would that one adult be the police officer?

Hard to just ignore them when they are burning the place down!

They’re a dying breed.
We should line the streets when they march, holding tissues to our eyes, waving goodbye. Dress in funeral attire. Confuse their little underdeveloped minds.

Its cursed since Day One,main industry was shipbuilding which dried up long ago and now the main employer is the Civil Service supplanted by a substantial yearly British cash injection.
The definition of a failed state if ever there was.

@ RobertOMaingain – To your first point “no secret loyalists have the worse PR on earth” see later for my views on PR and how Frazer will use it. My point had nothing to do with PR but rather the biased way that these things are covered by the national broadcaster in the Republic of Ireland and how this biased coverage will do nothing to solve these problems. As a national broadcaster they have a responsibility to be fair and balanced and they are not. By not reporting these events in a even handed manner they give people like Willie Frazer an excuse to stage a protest in Dublin in the hope of eliciting a response from hoddie trouble makers. The national broadcaster has a lot to answer for in how they glorify some forms of nationalist violence and villify others, this form of biased reporting encourages those same troublemakers to go out on the streets in response to Frazer and his band of 150 protesters.

To your second point – Democracy brought about the partition of the island into two seperate states. some people didnt like that so they used violence to change the democratic mandate. If some Dissident Loyalists do the same who is to blame?

I do agree that in many cases they are their own worse enemy in the same way as the RIRA, 32 County Sovereignty Movement and others.

@ Frank Cluskey – I fully agree, If I was Willie Frazer I would make sure that the 150 people coming was made up of the families of those injured or killed during the troubles, I would also invite as many veterans of WW2 / Falklands / Irag / Afghanistan etc to come. Its not like the same people out in Belfast throwing petrol bombs will arrive in Dublin.

THATS PR – not how the events have been covered in the national media

@ Vincent Carpenter:
you say -
” Democracy brought about the partition of the island into two seperate states”

what utter rubbish.
the people of Ireland (all 32 counties of it) gave a clear mandate for independence from British rule in 1918 election.
the borders of the Six County State were carefully drawn up so that there would be a 60 /40 Protestant / Catholic ratio within its borders.
the state was described by one of its leaders as ‘A Protestant State for a Protestant People’, & it operated largely as such, until the minority community trapped within its borders, began to win concessions as the struggle of the last decades of the 20th century progressed.
the 26 County State was & still is, just the remaining part of Ireland.

@vincent
thanks for your comment and I agree with nearly all you say,
my one concern and i raised it in my first post is that nowhere in your two comments did you condem the violence that is happening in belfast.
its about moving on vincent and getting over the hurdles

But they prevail though, theres still no UI and never will be

Just arrest each and every Unionist as they step off their dismal coaches of disappointment, anger and low self-esteem.
That HAS to be the worst day trip, in the world, EVER? Do they have their own on-board medics, for the return trip?

Straight forward i reckon, Let them have their protest, if they set one foot out of line arrest them all and stick em in the joy for the night. see how they get on.

You can’t arrest them for just wanting to protest. Now if they start to riot, then baton charge them and arrest them.

Just to add this, I really hope it absolutely pisses rain that day, and I mean heavy winds and the lot (come on Irish weather, do or thing :) )

@Kevin.. “dismal coaches of disappointment, anger and low self-esteem…”
Pure poetry. Deserves a spot in post of the week. I’m still laughing out loud :’-)

@Daffy; Thanks, I aim to please. :)

You call them bigots and huns in the same sentence. Irony much?

what a sad ignorant man what about leinster and munster bum buddies

Lets not brand everyone with a celtic top as a rioter/troublmaker.

And if they do and they get battered (again!) you can be sure the media will be out with the same British placating garbage as they did when the Love Ulster lads came down.
‘Yeah theh came to provoke but all violence towards them was by Eastern Europeans looking for trouble and by junkies’

But thats the issue,they see it as everything is against them and they are in a losing battle,its an inbuilt paranoia.
Paisley had them convinced the Republic and the Pope were out to get them when neither could have cared less.
Time and demographics bring down the mightiest of empires

I presume you are putting yourself in that bracket Jason? That’s the problem with most “Irish” people they are ignorant of the situation of the north of Ireland and prefer to stay cocooned in their little shells down “south”

You have just fulfilled the loyalist agenda,looks like its working after all.