Due to cutbacks in my budget all I can wish you is a hap… n.. ye… in return…and poor old Micky Noonan fading away to a shadow of an elephant.

For the rich anyway……

Damien
That comment about Michael Noonan was unnecessary while being both spiteful and ignorant . Have you learned nothing in the last few weeks of 2012 with respect to postings of this nature and the damage they might do. Are you so malicious in your intent that you don’t care of any negative consequences to what are cyber bullying or incitement to hatred .

Yes MJ..poor sensitive Noonan swinging his scythe at belligerent remedial teachers, nurses, disemployed and sick while the next generation jets off to the joys of emigration in the global sweatshop that keeps ye all in the blueshirt luxury your mammies told you was your rightful inheritance.

Mea phukking culpa.

If he can’t stand the heat..slither out of the kitchen!

Your personal comment about Michael Noonan is inappropriate and unnecessary and shows the level you stoop to.

@Damien you better call pinky and the brain straight away and apologise to the brain in case he gets offended, its not right to slag off these great humanitarians that wouldn’t take a morsel for themselves…

KICK being the operative word folks!

@Lt MrW

The level I stoop to does not include living in luxury while others are in hunger.
Or slashing public services while I can afford private treatment, in order to satisfy white-collar gangster cartels.

Noonan’s a self serving right wing egotistical maniac, who cares nothing for the ordinary people of this country. The man is downright dangerous. And to top it all off, we have the most evil of them all calling the shots.

great article sinead

Well said Damien and might I add that all these politicians since getting into power have put on at least 4 stone in excess from their wealth. Look at Rabbitte. is there even a collar that size? And to those who say its inappropriate ye make me sick. is it appropriate to make people lives miserable while getting fat on massive wages and benefits? oh the moral outrage of the comfortable. Is there anything more contemptible.

Yep…Orwell’s Animal Farm depiction of Stalinism gets the Fine Gaelmore and Phat Rabbitte makeover.

Run up the Troikalor and sing €Ur-lends Call.

Christopher
Control your costs and save us as well. Close out your internet account and we will all be better off and particularly after your last and nasty post.

It’s called an opinion . Blowing nothing into something is moronic , maybe that’s the way you are

Lolol…

Ignore him Dave…he’s a troll.

they got not cuts to their income, but in a meaningless gesture they lowered the provision for the oireachtas by 2.5%, as if they wouldnt just use extra money if they deemed it necessary

The Americans are taxing the rich, because they’ve had it good for too long and we protect the rich/politicians/top civil servants! What a Democracy we live in, great isn’t it!

The parasites are too big to care, remember. The carers are small enough to prey on.

Thats the system. We have, therefore we take.
Its a global pyramid of dynastic conglomerates in shareholding oligopoly cross-ownerships cascading to dog-eat-dog competition between the actual producer 99% being sweatshop bled for their economic growth, which they sell to us as a spurious ‘our’ economy. We are just their raw material human resources. Chips in the ‘players’ game.

And if they happen to bust their own casino, we bail them out. Every time.
The name is Bond, Sub-Prime Bond. Literally licenced to kill.

but if you tax the rich all the multi nationals will immediately close and every rich person will leave in the flight of the earls part 2, where will we be then?

Stephen
When did France Germany and America enter Bailout Programmes?

@ Stephen the US is increasing taxes for those earning 450,000 plus. Non of politicians or civil servants would fall into that bracket…

Revolting peasant,

You are correct in this viewpoint.
When infrastructure of Eastern Europe countries improves to the liking of the multinationals in Ireland they will leave to relocate.no plan by the Irish gombeen political class to have an alternative jobs strategy in place.

Michael
read it again
he didn’t say they were in a bailout programme he said:
France, Germany, America and other Countries not in a Bailout programme!
maybe thats the problem with you and your views
if you bothered to open your big eyes maybe the world would be diifferent to you

Did they fk…don’t you know that this government don’t believe in EVERYONE sharing the burden..they’re a closeted, cocooned collection of the worst that there is about Ireland today and operate to the simple code..pull up the ladder, I’m alright jack. I’d be interested to hear what Michael Collins opinion of politician pay is although I have a faint idea as to what that might be.

@Revolting P

Thats the barrel they have the planet over. And these multinationals play all ends against each other to squeeze the last drop of producer surplus profit into their insatiable maws, because they are addicted to growth like the cancerous parasites they are.
But before they would exit and leave the convenience of Eirebase 1 they would initiate a social breakdown using the methods long honed in Latin America, and indeed in the colonial laboratory of Ireland.
Where will we be then?Where are we now?
On the road to Greece. And Afghanistan.All we can do is watch it unfold and roll towards its usual logical conclusion of totalitarian war. We need to understand it, in the hopes that if anything remains afterwards what emerges will be built on more sustainable foundations of inclusive values rather than exclusive elitism. Without that understanding and a healthier culture, the cycles will continue to repeat. Global problems are driving an awareness these parasites insist on denying and supressing. So far every collective attempt to make the transition has been repulsed and thwarted. The tools of this new medium, if they can be kept open, may provide a means. They contained the last global wave of revulsion, the civil rights and anti Viet Nam wave through assassinations, repression, incorporation of the medium of music into pap muzak for indoctrination and resegmentation into revived nationalisms. They also unleased their heroin and cocaine assaults on the chemical experimentation generation. They have multiple means of dividing us, and we play into their hands constantly by failing to realise that to conform to their moulds requires we dehumanise ourselves.
I don’t do optimism. I do observation. Often flawed. I tend to see it in evolutionary and collective mental health terms. The Archimedean lever of science has realised the prediction to enable us move the earth to our own ends.
It remains to be seen if it is our own terminal end in a destructive rat race of yet more resource wars, or if we can apply it to lever ourselves back into a human race to create a human egalitarian recognition of our common interdependence. The parasitic elites find that anathema to their powers. They will not humanise, and like dear old Uncle Adolf will be happier taking their delusions and their pistol into the terminal bunker than letting go a single shekel from their cold dead NRA fingers.
I prefer it to football. The hominids are fascinating, if repulsive. And they are everywhere. They will be red-thumbing again in a few moments once I inflict this on them. But so are them humans.
The race continues, for the foreseeable.

it is a fallacy Damien that they will all leave, why would they leave? they come here for the low corporate tax and the highly educated, english-speaking worforce, some well off individuals may leave but the benefits would outweigh the losses by a long shot, i mean for example, if you were making 500k p.a. here and then you had to pay more tax, would you leg it out of the country or keep your well paid position? its the most populist bullcr*p out there

Maybe its because I lived outside Ireland for most of my time up to 20 years back that I seldom think of Ireland as the prime issue.
I left in ’67 and sloped around the planet with visits back. I tend to think global. Money I can take or leave, as long as I have food and shelter and health. Thats when its gets crucial. After that its secondary, unless you succumb to its poisonous addictive grip. The 500k salary men are at the whim of the global bugeting of their host dinosaur transnational’s budget. They calculate on global scales over 10, 20 50, and 100 year scenarios. The corporation is immortal and has legal personality remember, so it is a sentient entity with the boardroom as its collective intelligence. Dinosaur is an apt metaphor. They are the velocoraptors and tyrannosoraus of the 6th great extinction, now running. They are hominid powered and despise humanity as disposable mortal weakness. They are the gods of the greek pantheon in their scorn for us. It has been observed that the mindset best suited to success in its world is the psychopathic(check Scientific American for last Oct and Kevin Dutton’s eulogising in The Wisdom of Psychopaths).

im familiar with the diagnosis, also worth pointing out they have the same rights under the american constitution as a person

More, the constitution being a legal instrument susceptible to financial leverage through corporate lawyers. Monsanto and their bakrupting of US farmers who refused to swallow the GMO medicinal formula being a fine example.
Equality before the law is another of those large Hitlerian lies imbibed with our mothers milk. As with the lie that we live in a democracy. Democracy requires Egalite, to temper its Liberty. Otherwise the Fraternal future of humanity is aborted. That is the abortion referendum we cannot have, as we cannot have best of three on Nice or Lisbon once they have their correct answer registered through fearmongering, even as they accuse legitimate questioning of being that same fearmongering they drive through their monoply of media definitions. Dumb they aint.

Mr Peasant
Are you aware of the ease with which one can become a tax exile. A short flight to the Isle of Man or boat trip and the rental of a nice house overlooking the sea and preferably beside the golf course and inform Revenue. Then bingo the tax rate is a straight twenty per cent. The difference between there and here on a salary or pension over eighty grand will pay your rent and more besides. Any income over that and you’re in more clover.
Now you can travel home lots and lots while having the equivalent of a holiday home at the Revenues expense.
Why do you think the Taoiseach is terrified of what you endearingly call… The flight of the Earls?
If there was such a flight how much more would you be paying?

populist nonsense michael, the well off fall into a few catagories, 1. those in high paid jobs and careers, 2. those with large pensions, 3. those with ‘unearned’ wealth (independently wealthy) 4. those who own successful businesses in ireland 5. those who own successful businesses abroad, when we talk about a ‘wealth tax’ we refer to high pay in particular, these people are not likely to leave because they receive their high pay from this country, except of course the number 5′s, its all a fairy tale and you believe it, the multi-nationals will not pull out of here because the md’s tax goes up, it doesnt effect them

Frank
Primary grade English tells me I’m right and you’re wrong. Just look at the structure of the sentence.
Country a,b,c……………..and those countries not in a Programme.
Now try hard to see that the direct meaning of the words as written implies that Country a,b and c are thus in a Programme!
Easy isn’t it.
Now for your homework tonight we will move to the definite article……..You!

‘France, Germany, America and other Countries not in a Bailout’, it couldnt be more clear that none of them are in a bailout but as usual michael, you cant understand a simple sentence

michael michael
look at the sentence again, your eyes are closed you missed the bit when he said
They are paid more than other politicians around the world, France, Germany, America and other Countries not in a Bailout programme!
he was saying and please dont let me have to say it again, that the politicians from the countries france america and germany and other countries not in a bailout programme etc etc. therefore he was saying that the 3 countries mentioned were not at present in bailout
I have a 12 year old at home that can explain it to you again if needs be

Where have you been @John Cash these last few weeks…. while every spineless Labour TD & Senator bemoaned Joan Burton they all voted for this cut instead of finding the 26 Million that’s all that was needed to save such a cut, the Labour Way or the frankfurt’s Way or Berlins Way or The Kaiser’s Way was to really pay the Unsecured Bond holders with Tax Payer’s Monies & thus unleashing on the Irish PEOPLE this hardest of Budgets & Cuts

Chris
No we are not talking about the same Mr Noonan as the Minister didn’t say all emigration is about lifestyle choice. He cited his own family situation where three of his five children lived and worked abroad out of choice and the real need in society today was to ensure that they got the best possible education before they went . He further said that the traditional patterns on a small island was for people to be leaving and coming home all the time.
Bend that any way you want Chris and then tell me what’s wrong with it.
I left in the late seventies and returned from Canada five years later. My future employers regarded the experience as invaluable.

yes michael, wrong as usual, he cited his own children retrospectively, he did indeed deny that young people were leaving because of the unemployment crises, instead claiming they left because they wanted to be ‘out in the world’, it was only after the backlash from public anger that he mentioned his children, government spin and blinkered groupieism at its worst

Then stop voting Fine Gael.

There are alternatives to FG-FF-LAB

This is the 5th consecutive austerity budget……only hitting you now eh?

I think Tom is referring to the New Years Moaners when he says ‘so it begins’

The year finished yesterday with moaners and starts today exactly the same way. Its depressing when so many of us are just getting on with it.

I pray God if I am ever unlucky enough to get stuck in any disaster/tricky situation, then it is with positive optimistic problem-solvers, and not the moany ‘that’ll never work’ types.

You know who you are, so try a New Years Resolution of trying a different approach to life

agreed, we should be celebrating these cuts and tax hikes, its not like anyone will be effected by them, they are the epitome of positivity

Moaning about moaners what an oxymoron!! Go figure

Perhaps my comment was vague and hence misinterpreted. What I meant was “here we go” with the budget taking effect, that’s all.

And there they are ….

Note to self; do not to step into a lift with these guys

That will never happen.