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US CEO mocks ‘three hours a day’ French workers

“They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three and work for three,” the head of a US company wrote in a letter.

Picture of grape-pickers (working what looks like a three-hour day) posed by models
Picture of grape-pickers (working what looks like a three-hour day) posed by models
Image: Couple picking grapes via Shutterstock

THE HEAD OF US tyremaker Titan has sparked an uproar in France by mocking French workers for putting in only “three hours” a day and saying it would be “stupid” to invest in the country.

Titan chief executive Maurice Taylor’s incendiary remarks came as France’s economy is struggling in the face of increasing global competition, with leading companies announcing thousands of job cuts in recent months.

The country’s Socialist government has vowed to tackle France’s productivity gap – blamed by critics on high wages and reduced working hours – but is facing opposition from powerful trade unions.

The letter from Taylor to French Industrial Renewal Minister Arnaud Montebourg was in response to a request for Titan to consider investing in a loss-making Goodyear tyre plant in Amiens, northern France.

“I have visited that factory a couple of times. The French workforce gets paid high wages but only works three hours,” Taylor said in the letter, dated 8 February and obtained by French business daily Les Echos.

They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three and work for three. I told this to the French union workers to their faces. They told me that’s the French way!

Goodyear said last month it was set to close the plant, which employs 1,173 workers, following five years of failed talks with unions.

Taylor said Titan had a long history of buying and turning around troubled factories but in this case was not in any way interested. He wrote:

Sir, your letter states that you want Titan to start a discussion. How stupid do you think we are? Titan is the one with the money and the talent to produce tyres. What does the crazy union have? It has the French government.

The standard length of the working week in France is 35 hours.

Angry response

The letter drew a furious reaction from unions.

“This is an insulting letter,” said Mickael Wamen, the CGT union’s representative at the Goodyear plant, saying it showed Taylor “belongs more in an insane asylum than at the head of a multinational corporation”.

He said the union was planning to file a lawsuit in the United States against Goodyear and Titan over the closure of the plant.

Titan had one point been touted as a potential saviour of the factory, which produces tyres for agricultural vehicles and which Goodyear says it was forced to close after unions repeatedly rejected efforts to cut costs.

France’s Communist Party also expressed outrage at the letter, calling it “an appalling provocation coupled with xenophobia against French workers.”

It urged the government to pass a law forbidding profitable companies from laying off workers.

‘Mocking caricature’

Montebourg refused to comment on the letter, telling journalists: “I don’t want to harm French interests.” He said he would provide an answer to Taylor in writing.

Government spokeswoman Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said that the letter in no way reflected broader US views of investing in France.

“I would remind Mr Taylor that France remains the largest recipient of US investment in Europe and there are probably very good reasons for this,” she told journalists.

The opposition UMP party’s Bernard Accoyer, who served as speaker of the National Assembly under right-wing ex-president Nicolas Sarkozy, said that while the letter was clearly “mocking caricature”, it raised important questions about French labour relations.

“It is not completely unfounded,” he told LCI television, saying that France’s “serious competitiveness problem” was linked with the “extremist hardliner” views of some unions.

Taylor, who made an unsuccessful run for the Republican nomination in the 1996 US presidential election, said that France’s low productivity was putting its industry at risk from emerging powers China and India.

“The French farmer wants cheap tyres. He does not care if the tyres are from China or India and these governments are subsidising them,” he wrote in the letter.

“Titan is going to buy a Chinese tyre company or an Indian one, pay less than one euro per hour wage and ship all the tyres France needs. You can keep the so-called workers.”

- © AFP, 2013

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Comments (65 Comments)

  • I suppose if you have to get models to pose as workers things must be bad.

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  • Three hours work a day, fabulous food, glorious countryside, great clothes, beautiful women and lots of sunshine.

    Sorry, but how is this supposed to be a damning criticism of France? It sounds like a great advert for the place to me!

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    • If France could achieve all that while keeping their budget balanced and companies profitable no one would have an issue. The problem is that they’re borrowing heavily to maintain these living standards. With a retirement age of only 62 (Ireland 68) they face an enormous crisis into the future as less children are born and more pensioners receive their entitlements.

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    • Spot on David
      Working in the private sector in France I totally agree with the CEO of Titan and I certainly wouldn’t invest in France if I was in his place!
      Utterly crippling employer charges adding > 40% to wage packets and desperately inflexible protection of workers contracts( very difficult to let go unsuitable employees)
      The 35 hr week was imposed by a former socialist government in an effort to generate jobs! Typically short sighted idea

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    • Massive improvement in the quality of life of the average worker = Typically short sighted idea.

      Hmmmm. I call shenanigans. Sounds to me like it would just prevent a small fraction of people from getting obscenely rich and limit them to just getting normal rich. You know, just the one yacht.

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    • David Higgins, balancing a budget is important and to be worked towards, but what FG do is try to balance it bottom up, instead of top down.

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    • If people work less and less they are giving less and less back to society regardless of money. Once you are working you are doing something for someone else, providing a service, creating something or growing something for society or the world. Having people work just a few hours a week only benefits these few workers. I think Europe should work it’s way out of this debt crisis.

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    • Mark
      I think you’re missing the obvious . The factory is about to close and all the employees lose their jobs.
      Sounds to me like a self inflicted gunshot to the belly!
      Pretty damn Socialist if you ask me.

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    • censored 20/02/13 #

      Mark, small TEMPORARY improvement followed by unemployment. Is that what you call shenanigans? I don’t that word means what you think it means.

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    • Amiens is northern France, weather there is nearly as bad as here Mark.

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  • The French will probably go on strike over this

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  • I’m not sure where that spokesperson is getting the statistics to support the statement that “France remains the largest recipient of US investment in Europe”.

    Maybe they’re just looking at one specific sector or something? I am a little confused!
    I would be genuinely interested in seeing what stats support their statement.

    Just Googled it as I found the statement a little odd and found a Congressional Research Service report which shows figures for year end 2011 for US FDI in Europe:

    $89.3 billion invested by US companies in France as at 2011. $106.9 billion in Germany, $188.3 billion in Ireland and $549.4 billion in the UK (mostly financial services transactions in City of London).

    I mean, OK France attracted quite a lot of US investment, compared to many countries but it does not appear to be the biggest destination for US investment in Europe by a long shot.

    If anyone’s interested you’ll find a copy of the Congressional Research Service’s report here : http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS21118.pdf (It’s on the Federation of American Scientists website for some reason)

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  • Dillon 20/02/13 #

    Now, now. We weren’t laughing yesterday when it was the Iceland CEO mocking “the Irish”.

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  • Some people seem to think we should regress to the 19th century where the ‘working class’ were expected to slave away for very little money and live in slums to create huge profits for business owners and speculators.

    During the 20th century the United States, Western Europe and other developed economies managed to get some kind of highly socially progressive situation where capitalism reached an equilibrium. A normal employee in a normal ‘blue collar’ job could earn a decent wage, support a very high standard of living, buy a home etc. All of their income got spent back into the economy creating a huge consumer boom which supported all of those businesses.

    Until the 1980s, most businesses seemed to recognise that paying a decent wage, having good conditions of employment etc meant you had customers who could afford your products / services.

    What’s happening now seems to be like a return to the 19th century. Goods are being manufactured in low cost economies with low labour standards, low incomes, low environmental standards etc etc etc. Yet, we’re somehow supposed to accept that we should simply compete with these places and that it’s somehow a level playing field?? Something’s not really adding up.

    If people can’t earn a decent wage in the huge markets like the EU and US, then the demand for products/services will ultimately start to slide and the economy will begin to contract. Perhaps that’s what we’re already starting to see? Huge unemployment rates, lifestyles supported by credit … are we just seeing it unravel?

    While the situation being outlined in that article’s a bit extreme i.e. 3 hours a day, I do think you should be able to work a normal working day, a decent income, affordable housing, affordable car, holidays etc etc..

    Without all that stuff, the consumer economy as we know it stops making sense.

    The French do have a point (even if they can go a bit far sometimes) – We need to stand up for a decent (not lazy) work : life balance for everyone!

    Perhaps if cheap labour markets are unwilling to implement something similar to the EU’s working time directives, environmental directives etc we should look at imposing tariffs on their exports to balance the costs? We are the world’s largest consumer economy, I don’t know why we don’t use that weight to do some good.

    If we don’t it just means job losses in Europe / the US / wherever else and exploitation of workers in developing economies, pollution, etc etc etc..

    (End of rant!)

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  • Why would they want to invest in France anyway? How would they get the Mexicans into the factory?

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  • The US dislike holidays, vacation, days off, and are obsessed with working at the expense of lives outside work.

    I remember a candidate for a position in Microsoft being told by the interviewer that he saw vacations as just a different place to work from.

    Life is not just about work.

    No one in their final days thinks that they should have worked harder.

    I worked American hours for a time and it was silly sacrifice. It still does not protect you against forced early retirement, redundancy or even contrived excessive targets.

    Long hours are only sensible if you are extremely well paid or working for yourself.

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  • The French have a short work week, high holidays, a low retirement age and will go on strike at the drop of a hat. So he does have a point!

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    • And they have a great country for poorer citizens to live, rear their children and grow old.
      A yank who comes from the exact opposite criticises that, so what’s surprising in all that.
      The French are well able to look after themselves.
      And the factory he thought he could make a fortune with, if he ran it at the expense of the workers, magdalene style, was just like industries everywhere and ran its course.

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    • Denis 21/02/13 #

      I’m not sure the poor in the slums of northern Paris would agree with you.

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  • Its hard to see how any European or American company can compete in the future against countries with such vast and cheep labour markets with little or no workers rights

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  • Yes for the moment we can innovative better but its the price of labour that makes the difference.how can we compete with a billion Chinese willing to work 12hrs a day 7 days a week and they are intelligent people with an economy going from strength to strength and they can also innovative

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  • The Irish have certainly become compliant, subservient, company men and women in the last twenty years. You have certainly lost your edge, wanting nothing except respectability and inclusion though you still try to hang onto the myth of the two-fisted fighting Irish. Maybe you should invite Maurice Taylor or some other crass titan to exploit your dutiful arses. Vive la France

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  • Ha ha. The truth hurts for the French.

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    • Before we get too smug, remember the union who had to be taken to the Labour relations court to get an extra 3 minutes work per day out of their employees.

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    • Or maybe the French have it right, u work to live, not live to work. If profits
      We’re not used to pay CEO’s 30 – 50 times of those who work for a company, (dor they work 50 times harder!) or a fairer distribution of wealth, this is pie in the sky as long as the masses actually agree with those determined to lower pay, increase working time and then hoard the profits.

      I work with French folk from time to time, and were they lack as some would say “work Ethic” they more than make up for it in flare & imagination!

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    • mart_n 20/02/13 #

      John Maynard Keynes believed we’d all be working 15 hours per week by the start of the 21st century due to technological advances. Instead those advances are used to increase workloads lending to lower wages and a fear about losing your job.. you’ll work longer for less as a result. The best part is that the idea is sold to us as being a healthy ‘work ethic’! A term invented by industrialists to rationalize treating people as a cheap and disposable commodity.

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    • No. Link or it didn’t happen.

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  • Come to Ireland, invest in jobs here. We’ll even pay for your private debts with our taxes when things go wrong. Bargain!

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  • Pablo 20/02/13 #

    Yeah well, if I could buy a bottle of wine and a baguette filled with cheese for €2 I’d probably only work a three hour day too. The rest of the day I would simply reflect on the good ole days under Le Gaulle. When a bottle of wine and a baguette filled with cheese was 50c.

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  • The French have it right – they haven’t fallen for the con of the work ethic… like that’s what we are here for on the lovely blue planet? Sad.

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  • Love the last part about buying a plant in india or china and paying less than e1 a hour and shipping the tyres..really does show the contempt managment for some companies have againest there employee’s a slave labour force if they could get away with it..however he clearly does not understand the french with his tyre shipping..the french workers love a good riot from news reports I could never see his stock getting off the dock. Would probably cost him more in the long run.

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    • How about the contempt french workers have for their jobs. Maybe if they put in a proper shift the factory would not be closing down. No its always management and the directors fault isn’t it, for not putting up with their lazy attitude.

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  • David 20/02/13 #

    Although obviously an exaggeration, this is unfortunately an inconvenient truth not only France, but all socialist leaning European countries, have to face. Decades of left-wing governments since WW2 have sapped the life from once vibrant economies, by overloading them with corrupt inefficient bureaucracies and hostile counterproductive unions.

    We can moan all we like for higher wages, shorter hours, more holidays, etc, while the rising might of the BRICs take away our jobs.

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  • the head of titian must be feeling very proud of himself. not content with turning America into a wasteland with so called free markets he now proposes to cause havoc in Europe by paying people in china one dollar an hour and importing cheap tyres. who is going to be able to afford his tyres if they are all out of work. perhaps it is time the french brought back madame guillotine it seems that the nuvelle royalty have not learned their lesson. He would love nothing better then to have people paying American prices for his goods whilst he pays Chinese wages to his workers

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  • Says the CEO parasite. We live in a world where maximising profit is the only game in town at the expense of society. Seems to me that the French have a good quality of living, maybe they should scratch that so the fatcats can have more cream.

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  • Billionaire industrialist and failed Republican candidate in racist slur shocker! :O

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  • The guy is dead right. And , unions here should take note to the extent that the God Almighty Dollar thinks only of becoming Two God Almighty Dollars. I am not saying our workers are in any way neglectful. I am commenting on the American attitude.

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  • Ha Ha the man speeks the truth, the french are also known for going rasher at the least little critisim

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  • Not long before they surrender

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  • Was Sarkozy right wing?

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  • Denis 20/02/13 #

    This is a European problem, not just a French one. Unions to strong & a general feeling of “entitlement”

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  • The french are delusional and the irish are thick. No wonder both countries are in the hole.

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    • Andrew 20/02/13 #

      …and you’re a troll. Now, back under your bridge and let the grown-ups talk.

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    • Shows how out of touch you are Andrew. The french are delusional in thinking they can solve all there problems when there unions are adamant on poor output and short working hours and tonnes of holidays.

      The irish are thick in letting there government run a muck and letting there goverment enforce austerity due to bad practice of speculator s and banks.

      So my friend my points are valid and not trolling my good fool.

      Back in your box :-)

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    • Cpm 20/02/13 #

      You’re barely literate, itiswhatitis. Do you really expect your insults to be taken seriously?

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    • It’s “run amok”, not “run a muck”. What would it mean to “run a muck”? That makes no sense

      And yes, you look stupid now. But only slightly more stupid than your comment made you look in the first place.

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  • I work in France and have to say it’s not far from the truth. People work about 6 hours of a 9 hour working day at best.

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  • Ignorant bastard

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