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Live: Convention holds ballot on voting age and presidential term

The gathering of 100 delegates has been considering whether to lower the voting age to 17 and reduce the presidential term of office to five years.

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THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION will hold a ballot this morning to determine its position on lowering the voting to 17 and reducing the presidential term of office from seven to five years.

Delegates will meet at the Grand Hotel in Malahide, north Dublin this morning having yesterday held discussions on the two issues hearing arguments for and against lowering the voting age and cutting the presidential term, aligning it with local and European elections.

“We heard some robust and thoughtful opinions today. There was great engagement from the delegates with people offering differing points of view and perspectives,” convention chair, Tom Arnold, said.

A vote will be held today with the results of the ballot available at midday.

There are seven more issues for the convention to consider with the government committing to respond to its recommendations within four months.

This will be done by way of debates in the Oireachtas and, where it agrees with a particular recommendation to amend the Constitution, to include a time frame for a referendum to be held.

Poll: Should the Presidential term of office be shortened to five years?

Poll: Should the voting age be lowered to 17?

Column: What kind of Constitutional Convention do you want?

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Comments (20 Comments)

  • So the government will look at the results, debate them themselves and then decide if it will go ahead with it? What is the actual point of this convention? Why not hire a marketing company and ask them to poll a number of people around the country about the same issues?

    Meetings about meetings and nothing gets done comes to mind.

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  • Those ‘issues’ aren’t issues. This is just more time-wasting.
    The Government needs to get on with it and abolish the Senate and dump the Church control but they’ll just drag it out till the end of their term in office.

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  • They would be better off looking at and limiting the number of terms a TD can be elected. We have had the same old tired people running this country sand lining their own pockets for far too long.

    Yes I do realise its the electorate voting in the same people but this is due to a lack of options on whom to elect.

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  • Forgive me for being so cynical but lowering the voting age to 16 seems to be a ploy used when you want to manipulate the vote.Salmond wants it lowered before his referendum on Scottish Independence and with the prevelance (and power) of social media as opposed to the ‘free’ media you could argue that a targetted social media campaign to specific groups would sway their opinion on certain issues by shutting off the more traditional medium of self education.

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  • A load of right-on worthies having a knees-up, bit of an auld jaw and getting stuck into the port and three course dinners.

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  • Hope this comes in. I think dropping it to 16 would be better.

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  • Changing the voting age is a non issue in the grand scheme of things.

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  • Cancel this time and money wasting exercise NOW !

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  • I’d like to see our fellow Irishmen and woman abroad having the right to vote rather than kids who’ve just finished their Junior Certs, Does anyone know if this motion is being voted on too?

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  • Did anyone ever consider that biological age should NOT be the factor in deciding who may vote?

    Personally, I believe that voting should be compulsory. If not, then if you miss a vote, you lose your next vote. People need to take a lot more personal responsibility.

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    • Far too many things are compulsory. My, we do get off on telling people what to do in this country, don’t we?

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    • Do you have authority issues Lenore?

      I prefaced my comments with “I believe…” I think this makes it clear it’s a personal opinion.

      Barely 30% of the electorate bothered their arses voting in the last referendum. Do you think this is ok?

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    • I’ve issues with busybodies who want to legislate for every single aspect of human activity. Sometimes abstaining from a vote can be a protest in itself. Imagine if only 20% of people voted in the next election? That would send a message and a half.

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    • And as for the referenda, participation is possibly low because referendum fatigue has set in. Almost all of the recent EU ones have been bogged down in issues that have nothing whatsoever to do with the actual treaties.

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    • Not every aspect of human activity!

      As for voting, let people come to the polling station to register their protest. I don’t think they’re protesters that are staying away. I just think they’re lazy or apathetic. The protesters at least come along and spoil their vote.

      Lastly, if only 1% of the population voted, we’d still have 166 TDs. This is wrong. Let there by one TD returned for every 30,000 votes cast. But this won’t happen either because the general population want representation without the responsibility for achieving it. And the TDs will just sit on the gravy train slurping up expenses.

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