I was thinking that too Ciaran.

It’s just a pity both genders don’t speak with one voice against all types of abuse. Be it male/female, female/ male, female/female and male/male, physical or emotional. Abuse is ABUSE!

The lost lenore. There is websites already set up. http://Www.amen.ie is one.

You’re right Sean. That would be a much more intelligent approach.

yes, 2 of my mates had very expensive laptops smashed up on them during the past year after arguments with their girlfriends. Verbal arguments > smashes their laptop > then they get smashed up. Smash a few plates, shout a bit put please leave other peoples ‘expensive’ property alone.

No, just simplistic.

The article is about online stalking. Not murder.

Just to pull you up on your principal point, 46% of female homicides committed by a partner compared to 5% of males, bearing in mind in the UK men are over twice as likely to be killed as females, and in Scotland this actually rises to 3 times, so that dilutes your ration of 9 to 1 down to 4 to 1 or even 3 to 1 depending on how like Scotland you think we are.

And yes that’s still a decent gap, but I guarantee you the proportion of articles I read about domestic violence against males is not anywhere near 33%. And also, we constantly hear about how to make things safer for women, I even heard some waffle on the radio last week about us making Dublin safer for females under some new initiative, even though men are 3 times as likely to murdered by a stranger, way more likely to be assaulted, carjacked, the list goes on. And that doesn’t take into account the absurdity of proposing that women have different safety requirements to men. So the commenters here that you so readily bemoan have a very good point, and no amount of “well if you don’t like it you do something about it” is going to silence them.

Gavin – I quoted directly from the article, which is indeed based around stalking but highlights the potential fatal consequences of this.

Brendan I’m not sure how much you know about statistics. You seem to have taken the ratios for overall murder rates which do indeed say males are 2/3 times more likely to be murdered than women yet ended up with some new ratios that say women are 4/3 times more likely to be murdered than men?? Its like you maintained the 46% female homicide rate as a result of partners/ex-partners but inflated the male percentage by their general likelihood of being murdered and then turned this into some ratios, while also not accounting for how the 5% of male homicides would already be contained within the 2:1 ratio…..?

Anyway, my point was about how the article deals with a specific issue and it is not a competition to get equal attention on an issue that does not affect males and females equally. I would prefer to be part of the gender which actually is less likely to have this happen and if I felt particularly strongly about this getting involved with organisations such as Amen which help those males who are affected by this.

@CAPK

That’s exactly what I did.

#Males killed=a
#Females killed=a/2 (take my conservative half)
#Males killed by spouse=a/20 (5% of male victims)
#Females killed by spouse=23a/50 (46% of female victims)
#Males killed by spouse/#Females killed by spouse=23/5=4.6.

I’m not madly passionate about this issue, I just hate it when statistics are misleading. I think what people are annoyed about is that women’s groups are the only groups that focus on themselves, marginalised immigrant groups fight to stop racism, not racism against their small section of society. Poverty stricken parents fight for the rights of other poverty stricken people, not just those who have families. It is a wholly unique concept as far as activism goes and I think that’s why people find it so abhorrent.

* #Females killed by spouse=23a/100 (46% of female victims)