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FF whip to meet Ó Cuív over role in referendum No campaign

Seán Ó Fearghaíl is to meet former deputy leader Éamon Ó Cuív to establish what role he will take in the referendum campaign.

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THE FIANNA FÁIL chief whip is to hold talks with the party’s former deputy leader Éamon Ó Cuív this evening to discuss the latter’s role in the fiscal compact referendum campaign.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl’s meeting with Ó Cuív comes after the latter confirmed he was planning to vote No in the referendum, going against the party’s official policy of seeking a Yes vote.

RTÉ News said the meeting was called after party leader Micheál Martin told the parliamentary party that Ó Cuív’s open defiance of the party’s stance could not be accepted.

A party spokesman this evening said, however, that reports that the meeting was to discuss Ó Cuív’s ongoing membership of the FF parliamentary party were not accurate.

“It’s more to ascertain what role he plans to take in the campaign,” the spokesman said. “We’ll take it from there.”

The issue of Ó Cuív’s actual membership of the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party “doesn’t arise at this time”, the spokesman added.

TheJournal.ie understands that the meeting is being held to ascertain whether Ó Cuív intends to take a more active role in encouraging a No vote among the public.

If Ó Cuív indicates an intention to campaign actively for a No vote, the remaining members of the parliamentary party may move to expel him – a highly symbolic move given that Ó Cuív is the grandson of party founder Éamon de Valera.

Given this status, though, it is understood that the party will be willing to tolerate a No vote as long as Ó Cuív does not intend to actively canvass in favour of the rejection of the treaty in the referendum in 30 days’ time.

Ó Cuív’s confirmation of his intention to vote No came during a radio discussion about his comments that Sinn Féin could be a potential coalition partner for Fianna Fáil if the parties gained a sufficient share of seats in the Dáil.

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Comments (37 Comments)

  • Perhaps Ó Cuív does have a strong belief that we should vote No in the referendum. (If he does it my be some sort of neo-Dev, Ireland can stand alone mentality).

    Whether he believes what he is saying or not is a side show.

    The referendum position/flirting with Sinn Fein/other general populist shyte is power-play to discredit the current leadership.

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    • The current leadership of FF is well capable of discrediting itself. The funny thing is that o’Cuiv is the only backbencher in the FF party, every one else has been given a spokesperson role.

      That said he certainly is making a complete joke of M.Martin.

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    • He’s a danger in the short term for SF especially. If he were to leave and set up some sort of Nationalist-Populist-conservative-Anti Europe ‘real Fianna Fail’ style party ala granddad, that could suck away a lot of Sinn Fein’s support.

      Typical FF mentality though, say whatever and do whatever is necessary to remain relevant.

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  • i’d say a lot of people would thank Éamon Ó Cuív for very publicly dividing Fianna Fáil over the last month or so. If it’s some sort of power play to regain control of granddad’s party, or to force Micheál Martin to expel him so he can set up some sort of ‘legitimate De Valera approved’ Fianna Fáil spin-off is another matter.

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  • Mr O’ Cuiv will be placed in charge of the tea & biscuits. He’ll be instructed to stand by the kettle and keep his trap shut.

    I sure as hell hope he keeps talking.

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  • That O’Cuiv has been able to defy the party line, and so blatantly rub dirt in to M.Martin’s face, just shows what a joke Micheal has become. He is only being tolerated till there is enough water under the bridge to make it look like FF are not panicking.

    O’Cuiv for all his faults comes across as honest and with beliefs and some principals, his gauche ways, reinforce that, he doesn’t do smarm. It is a rare FF’er that is viewed as honest by most of the electorate these days.

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    • meh, just because he’s right to vote no doesn’t mean he’s honest. I’d say typical Fianna Fail – out to grab everything he can. Guarantee he has an angle, but he forgets, Fianna Fail are irrelevant. Who cares, we’ll get by fine without them. I just hope that FF tainted “brand” follows the lot of them until the day they die and long after.

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    • Funny to watch Martin turning on the spit I’d say he would love to remove the party whip but against that there is not an abundance of FF TD’s sitting in Leinster house. Delighted. Ó Cuív has always been on the doubting side of the EU but be assured he is doing this for his own good otherwise all he would have to do is keep his trap shut and say nothing.

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  • “Splitter…… “

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  • Why now O’Cuiv, Is it because your not in power anymore?, How Well The Cookie Crumbles.

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    • Oskar Ó Cuív experienced his Damascus moment in the last year of the FF/Green government when he started talking about FF having to return to its ‘roots’. Oddly enough it didn’t prevent him from staying on as a minister until the last second of the previous regime.

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  • fair play to 0′cuiv for making a stand for what he believes in, be it right or wrong,,, STILL VOTE NO

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  • Ó Cuív, you’re not your grandfather. Get back into the box you were happy to be in when Fianna Fail were in charge and suffer the inevitable consequences of decades of corruption within that party of yours. Go down with the ship like a decent man.

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  • jimbo 01/05/12 #

    Again scaremongering within there own parties,he has a right to say NO like anybody else is.
    This government is a joke full stop

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  • Dec Rowe 01/05/12 #

    Here’s how I see this spin playing out, O’Cuiv defies Martin, Martin slaps his wrist, O’Cuiv knows he’s done is bit by letting it known he intends to vote no and waits until the vote is counted, it passes he carries on as normal, its rejected he challenges Martin for party leadership, Martin stands down and all of a sudden we have a new FF who stick by the people! It’s a pantomime!

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  • It’s a bit late now he should have said no to the bank gaurantee when he was in power he still has a fine salary while the rest of us struggle

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  • O Cuiv is turning turk. He appears to be losing it somewhat. Flirting with SF and trying to divide his already semi destroyed party. It seems he wants his Grandads version of Ireland, a gombeen wasteland where we all speak Irish, dancing at the crossroads with comely maidens drinking poteen and blaming the British for all our ills. A dinosaur of T-Rex proportions!

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  • Excellent analysis of the above situation.

    “O Cuiv is pulling a stunt, it’s purely a strategic move on his part benefit his own career. He knows the game is up with the FF party.

    I personally think that he is engineering a situation where he looks like some sort of “noble” republican” with own independent thoughts.

    O Cuiv has no interest in joining SF. Yes, they’re republican, but there’s just too much bad blood between FF and SF over years combined with the fact that socially and economically, SF policies with O Cuiv’s are vastly different.

    Whether O Cuiv’s tactic has worked yet, I don’t know – O Cuiv wouldn’t have done such as a public and destructive, solo assault upon the FF leadership had he not known of support within the FF party for what he is proclaiming wasn’t there to back him up.

    His actions are all in an effort to keep hold of his Dáil seat of which I can guarantee you he won’t be standing under the FF ticket come the next election.”

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    • I don’t know what his motivations are, but he took the first seat in Galway West at the last election, so I don’t think he’s doing this “in an effort to keep hold of his Dáil seat”. Frankly all this talk of a coalition with Sinn Fein is more likely to hurt him in an election, imo.

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  • I hate that FF banker, but anyone who will vote no is ok with me, well for a month at least

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  • Perhaps he truely realises the importance of this referendum. Either way I commend him for speaking his mind…….. besides I don’t care where the NO votes come from.

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  • mcbab 01/05/12 #

    O’Cuiv is a throw back. He was always anti European and has wasted millions on the Irish language. He belongs in the past.

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  • Kick him out! He’s nothing to offer Ireland except more corruption and lies

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  • I love watching Fianna Fáil implode!!! More please !

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  • Is it a case of him leaving ff or ff leaving him.

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  • Why doesn’t he just join SF and be done with it?

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