Jesus how will he cope now!!! 80 quid!! FFS…

How can they even be called pensions when they’re not pension age?

Marvellous ? That €80 p/w is half my income . Water off a ducks back to anybody earning €3000 grand a week ?

For fuckkkkkkkk sake what aload of bolocks it great how they can’t touch them because of the law and when it come to you and me they do what they like well that’s it I will head to mount joy over the next bill they put on me we should all do the same

Should be 8 grand a week, not 80.

If we don’t stop this madness now we are all in for a very rough ride while these boys that are the main cause of it are still rolling in it, with our tax money!!

My understanding is that the Government, if they have the desire, can introduce any legislation they wish, as long as it doesnt overwrite any European law … so in essence, they have the power to 1) Reduce the pension and 2) increase the eligibility criteria to anything they want.

But you may have guessed it already, there is Zero will in FF/FG/Labour to address this issue, as this will impact their future pension rights also.
And before we go off on this one … Michael D Higgins is also gettig multiple pensions, even though he is receiving a salary as President. FF/FG/Labour, all the same.

We need to petition our TD’s to address this. These thieves should not be getting anything more than the average industria wage as a pension anyway. This will hep them all understand their penance where it hurts … in their pockets.
Past and future ministers and TD’s must understand that the decisions they made/are making/will make has consequences on the average person in our society. How better to understand this, then to live it. It will help these thieves geta taste of the real world.

Has Howlin introduced legislation so no future retiring minister/senior public servant will get these obscene payments? ie will the current ministers get the loot as well?

Referendum please Mr. Howlin that would sort out the issues with legal instruments and the constitution.

€80 a week what a joke and to think this ‘announcement’ was flagged during the day as a big step forward on super pensions.

Self serving publicity that has back fired on him.

Screw losing 80 Euros .These guy’s should be losing their liberty. Arrest the f*****s now and give the nation some justice and a happier Christmas.

if we were all down 80 euro a week but still getting over 100 thousand a year we’d have no worries. anyone in a government job earning over 100 thousand a year should all have voluntary cuts and if not they should join the queues in the social office and get linched.

No problem for Bertie he would win 80 euro on the horses before breakfast,its poor Brian i feel sorry for he will have to cut back on his karaoke nights out, Clara won’t be the same on a Tuesday night ever again!

As I’ve said before, there’s no love like the love a politician has for himself.

And still the gravy train keeps on moving-I’m alright jack,pull that ladder up,dear chap!!!!

If normal folk like you and I were to take a hit of 80 euro a week (and god knows, after next week how we’ll manage), we’d be over the edge. It’s a lot of money to us. 80 euro to these assholes isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference. What a pathetic attempt by the government to try hoodwink us into thinking they’re making fair and just cuts and doing something constructive. For shame.

What a joke! These leeches deserve nothing from the Irish people especially the ones who bankrupted the country, Ahern and Cowen should be doing time in prison for their criminal negligence as taoiseach and minister for finance. None of these clowns should be getting a pension until they are 65 and it should be based on what they paid in? Which is nothing of course. They are total parasites on the people and at a time when the country cannot afford to pay for freeloaders. Disgusting.

And now the reports in to the church will come out and try and distract us from this government treachery against its people

I’m starting to suspect that some Irish politicians are interested only in themselves :)

As long as politictions are payed extorionate wages and pensions, it will encourage corrupt people to to stand for government,You will never see an honest polition rise to the top…Nurses, Carers and teachers do their job on low pay and have prob the hardest job, but they do it because they are passioate about it..what we need is all ministers wages brought down to this level, then you will see the honest hard working politicion come forward, and work for the benifit of the people…know it will never happen in my lifetime, until that day , polittions will be corrupt and corrupt…..

Ah poor bertie and his friends will earn €90,920…thats so bad……get a grip irish government…

God forbid Irish people would take a stand and force these leaches to reduce their pensions to an acceptable amount – we’d have one less thing to complain about!

Am I missing something? 20% on €52k is €10,400. That’s €200 a week. Where did the €80 come from?

We haven’t lost our soverignity to Europe – we have lost it to the Croke Park Deal

Here’s one way to make a “silent ” protest.
http://www.facebook.com/events/246400772088436/

Sadly asking ‘decorator’ Howlin and the current junta to do anything about the obscene level of these pensions is like asking turkey’s to vote for christmas. The looting of the public purse and the disgusting leeching will continue because the same parasites who are now in govt, are the very same parasites who in years to come will be joining the rest of the leeching class as soon as they have done their stint on the gravy train, in order to cement their ‘entitlements’ and bleed the country dry along with Ahern, Cowen Harney, Coughlan and all the other assorted crooks, gangsters, fraudsters and freeloaders! The country cannot afford to paying these unproductive spongers this kind of money for doing nothing and they should not be entitled to penny before they are 65 and that should means tested given all the other scams they will have taken advantage of during their time at the trough. Let them wait for their ‘state’ pensions the same as everyone else. Just remember it’s YOU and your children (assuming they have any jobs) who will be picking up the tab for these freeloading parasites, the very same ones who ensured that up to 75,000 young Irish people will be emigrating next year to find work and a future abroad because the same pensions abusers all but destroyed any chance of these people having a future at home, so much for no rewards for failure!

Ok, my understanding is that of the small print from the bottom of the screen of pensions advertisements on tv.. “WARNING: The value of your pensions investment can go up OR DOWN, past performance is not necessarily an indication of future returns” (emphasis mine)

Now, this is for private pensions investments, and goodness knows, most peoples private pensions have taken a hit.. So if that disclaimer is there to remind consumers that there is no guarantee that their pensions will pay out what they put in – why should a state pension be any different?

It’s just posturing and hiding behind legalese to try and excuse something that in totally unjust.

Apologies, that list is for the 30th dail. Anyone have an up to date list?