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Video: ‘It’s a lie! It’s a lie!’ – Hollande and Sarkozy in ill-tempered debate

With Francois Hollande in the lead, French president Nicolas Sarkozy traded blows his Socialist challenger ahead of Sunday’s presidential election vote.

A wall screen shows the televised debate at the TF1 television studio, in Boulogne-Billancourt, outside Paris.
A wall screen shows the televised debate at the TF1 television studio, in Boulogne-Billancourt, outside Paris.
Image: Thibault Camus/AP/Press Association Images

FRANCE’S PRESIDENTIAL RACE hit a dramatic pitch in the only face-to-face debate between President Nicolas Sarkozy and front-running challenger Francois Hollande — a verbal slugfest that broke little new ground on substance but exposed big differences in style.

Sarkozy, struggling to keep his job, came out slugging, assailing Socialist Hollande’s plans to raise taxes and boost spending, repeatedly accusing him of lying. The Socialist Hollande held his own in a fight that many expected would be dominated by the sharp-tongued Sarkozy.

Sarkozy, an America-friendly conservative who has linked up with Germany’s Angela Merkel to try to get Europe’s finances in order, is facing an uphill battle ahead of Sunday’s balloting: He has not led Hollande in a single poll this year.

The debate had shaped up as Sarkozy’s last stand, and last chance to draw blood against Hollande, who has been methodical in an almost picture-perfect campaign to avoid gaffes and erase any doubts about his ability to lead a nuclear-armed nation with a permanent U.N. Security Council seat.

“It’s a lie! It’s a lie!” Sarkozy insisted in one heated exchange on economic policies. The Socialist contender, meanwhile, forcefully denied some of Sarkozy’s claims about his intentions, insisting, “I never said that.”

The campaign has largely focused on domestic issues such as the weak economy, immigration, and integration of French Muslims. Yet the outcome is considered crucial to the rest of Europe as well because France is a major economic engine at a time when the eurozone is trying to climb out of a debt crisis.

Sarkozy says France needs to do more to cut spending and debts, while Hollande favors government-funded stimulus programs. Both have pushed for similar approaches for the rest of the continent, too.

‘Call for unity’

Sarkozy lashed at out at his critics, especially regarding his handling of the economy, while noting Hollande’s lack of government experience.

Hollande called for national unity and social justice, repeatedly using one of his campaign catchwords: “rassemblement,” or “bringing together” — to stress the contrast between him and the divisive Sarkozy.

Sarkozy said he’s being unfairly blamed for France’s economic problems after years of crisis, and insisted he’s not “the only guilty one.”

“Mr. Sarkozy, you would have a hard time passing for a victim,” Hollande riposted. “It’s never your fault. You always have a scapegoat. ‘It’s not me, it’s the crisis that hit me.’”

Sarkozy said Hollande’s economic plans would send France’s debt through the roof and hurt the rest of Europe.

Hollande criticized tax reforms under Sarkozy seen by leftists as too friendly to the rich. “We are coming out of five years where France was struck down, where France was divided,” Hollande said.

Sarkozy countered, “Saying that we offered gifts to the rich … is slander. It’s a lie.”

At this, Hollande laughed.


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Both the Socialists and conservatives have sought ways to lure voters who during the first round cast their ballots for Marine Le Pen, the leader of the far-right anti-immigrant National Front party. Le Pen won a stunning 18 percent of the first-round vote.

Sarkozy denounced those who compared him to France’s Nazi collaborators because of his tough campaign rhetoric on immigrants, or to billion-dollar investment swindler Bernard Madoff.

“Borders are not a bad word,” Sarkozy said about his calls to limit the number of immigrants France takes in.

Hollande, meanwhile, took a similar position to Sarkozy when it came to special treatment for France’s large Muslim community.

He said he would not allow separate menus in public cafeterias or separate hours in swimming pools for men and women to satisfy Muslims’ demands, and also said he would firmly support France’s ban on the face-covering Islamic veils.

Exasperation

Sarkozy took a predator pose from the outset, leaning forward on the desk through much of the debate. Hollande frequently leaned back in his chair, raising his voice less often, and at one point even appeared to yawn.

Sarkozy’s assertive posture, in another setting, could be seen as a good thing for a debate. But one of the things his critics dislike most about him is a personality seen as too aggressive, so it may not work in his favor.

The contenders quibbled over statistics, at times over small margins; they scoffed sarcastically; and they spoke over each other, pointed fingers and raised their voices. The two presenters repeatedly pleaded about running over time.

Above all, the two men bared their familiarity with each other after years as stalwarts of their respective parties. Often their points came across as nitpicky and esoteric.

Sarkozy seemed exasperated at times: At one point, he shook his head brusquely, in another he closed his eyes for a long time when Hollande interrupted him.

Sarkozy put his rival on the back foot during an exchange over illegal immigration, trying to expose inconsistences in his position — even pulling out a letter that Hollande recently wrote to an activist group to make his point.

The debate was preceded by the kind of dramatic build-up normally reserved for a heavyweight boxing championship, even though experts say past debates have never swung a French election, regardless of who comes off better in the televised showdown.

Read: Hollande says he would seek to renegotiate Fiscal Treaty if elected

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Comments (28 Comments)

  • sbourke 03/05/12 #

    What is their stance on the Henry incident

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  • Hollande for President!

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  • Id like to see Hollande in, not just because I think he’s the better man for the job but also to see the negotiation implications for such an influential country to be fronted by a socialist. Might see some actual debate going on in the EU then.
    Merkel wont be pleased :)

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  • Hollande for the win and hopefully to scuttle this Fiscal Treaty before we vote on it at all.

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  • Noonan will be of the wine and brie soon as Hollande is against the treaty too……

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  • Like Kenny I don’t like interfering in other nations Presidential elections but I’d just like to put on record my support for Mr. Hollande :-)

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  • Congradulations President Hollande.

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  • Hopefully Hollande wins the election and and leaves the fiscal treaty in tatters, because if it’s left to the electorate here to vote against the treaty I can’t see it happening. One thing about the French. They won’t be terrorised into voting for something or someone they don’t believe in! As we’ve seen too many times here. If the government take a scaremonger approach then the majority of people here will follow there lead, just out of fear!

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  • Tim Wise 04/05/12 #

    Sarkozy………………what an anti-White. This is the “leader” of a traditionally White Europe nation who told the French that not to intermarry would be detremental to France’s future-who does he think he’s kidding. He is an anti-White, pro White genocide freak.

    http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/is-ashton-kutchers-new-dating-ad-racist-438528-May2012/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFsmvDF6ytk

    This is how “racism” works on planet earth…….

    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries

    The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries.

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I want the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I say that, I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

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  • Well if it was based on looks…. Marine Le Pen would have walked it

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  • Annoying that this is interpreted. Subtitles would have been better.

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  • dubsy 04/05/12 #

    Not a very “neutral” article, I’d say….

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  • Hollnde clearly yawned while speaking! Hopefully, if elected president, he’ll try to hold himself up like one!!!

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  • Sarko for President!

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  • I think Tim just realizes that In 50 years there will be NO majority White countries on earth. Yet Africa has over 50+ all black nations. Asia will remain totally Asian. And that will be true a century from now. It is White countries and ONLY White countries that are being flooded with non-Whites and it is EVERY single White country.

    Whites will have gone from almost 30% of the world population in 1900 to approximately 2-3% by the year 2100, per the UN. This is what genocide looks like, educate yourself. When the Chinese try and force assimilate Tibet, it is rightly called genocide. Genocide does not require lining people up and killing them.

    If Africa was undergoing forced assimilation and massive immigration of non-blacks, against the wishes of most Africans, to the point that every single African country would be non-black by midcentury – well we would know it was genocide.”
    Diversity is White GENOCIDE and anti-racist is just a CODEWORD for anti-White.

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  • Zorkozy says the only way Europeans will “survive” is to miscegenate with hundreds of millions of non-Whites. That’s backwards. Are you anti-Whites honestly telling me the only way the Japanese people can survive is by miscegenating with tens of millions of Africans? Isn’t it actually a logical fact that the opposite is true? Isn’t it also a fact from ALL the evidence, that ALL self proclaimed “anti-racists” support this mass 3rd world immigration and “assimilation” for EVERY and ONLY White countries? Does not what YOU anti-Whites advocate result in the ongoing program of White geNOcide? Then what kind of psycho does not believe that ‘anti-racist is just a code for anti-White’?

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  • Svenn 05/05/12 #

    I have a question for the anti-White academics:

    “African-American studies” celebrates blacks

    “Asian-American studies” celebrates asians

    “Chicano studies” celebrates hispanics

    “Whiteness studies” denies that White people even EXIST, and that these White people (who don’t exist) have unearned “White privilege”

    Here is my question:

    Who do you think you are kidding anti-Whites?

    “Anti-racism” is just a code word for anti-WHITE

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