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Minister Burton: Health Minister Reilly is “working flat out”

The Minister for Social Protection said she has confidence in the health minister, and that reforming the health system is difficult.

Minister for Social Protection, Joan Burton
Minister for Social Protection, Joan Burton
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

SOCIAL PROTECTION MINISTER Joan Burton has said that Health Minister James Reilly is “working flat out”.

She made the comments on Newstalk Breakfast this morning, where she was speaking about the new free mortgage advice to be given to some property owners, as well as the recent health cuts announced by Minister Reilly.

Minister Burton said:

The Government is united in getting this country through the IMF programme and out the other side and back to the international markets. That means for every minister in the government there is a very strong requirement to look at all expenditure and manage expenditure in a way that will help the country to recover and get back to economic stability.

While speaking on Morning Ireland, she said that in relation to today’s Irish Times report that €50 million allocated to develop mental health and primary services is to be used to offset the HSE deficit,  “lets see what the minister is actually proposing to do. I understand the minister is working on the details at the moment”.

She told Newstalk that she is “sure [Minister Reilly] will be coming back to government with more details of what he prepares to do” and said that “mental health is a priority as is the development of community health services”.

Minister Burton said that she hasn’t had the opportunity to have a briefing from Minister Reilly on the issue.

Confidence

When asked if she has confidence in the Health Minister, she said that “every minister in this government has to have confidence in every other minister” because as a government they went out “and asked people for a mandate to get this country back to economic stability”.

She said that that is the job of Minister Reilly, and he has to “do it in a way that actually strengthens our health services”.

Minister Burton said that Reilly’s special delivery unit “has had quite good outcomes for patients”, but:

reforming a very big system like the health system is  difficult and Minister Reilly is working flat out.

The Minister told Morning Ireland that she has undertaken a whole series of reforms in her department and that “we are putting together a much, much stronger service that the end of the day I hope will cost less and will give better benefits and service delivery”.

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Comments (49 Comments)

  • Resel 06/09/12 #

    All politicians should be working flat out.

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  • I dont question he’s working “flat out” I question who is he working for

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  • Heard this interview this morning on Newstalk, Minister Bruton (in true political fashion) avoided answering as many questions as possible. Talked a lot, said nothing.

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  • Just because he’s “working flatout” doesn’t mean he’s doing well or is the best man for the job. I could work flatout trying to be a space engineer but be hopelessly out of my depth. A bit like James Reilly seems to be!

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    • I cant say whether he is good or bad…but everyone who takes that job seems to considered ‘bad’….So you have to question the role as much as the person. People say that Michael O’Leary could do a better job….Sure if it was a private company with no unions etc. etc. etc. Did people really expect the health service to get sorted in 18months?? What private company do you know that has turned around its fortunes in 18 months?? Time and patience are required but probally wont be given in the media driven world we now live in…Its become like the premiership….people want success and they want it now…

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    • Not often I agree with Howlin but his comment that the Croke Park is being used as a ‘shield for inactivity’ describes the Minister of Health to a Tee.

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    • 70-80% of his budget cannot be touched because of the Croke Park Agreement. So services are the only thing that can be cut back. No health minister before has ever had their hands tied so much. And yet if he wants to stay health minister he needs the support of Labour.

      The HSE suggested all staff work an extra 2 hours a week as this would save €230m a year. They were quickly told where to go by the powers that be in the unions.

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  • “Programme.” “International Markets.” “Expenditure.” “Economic Stability.”

    What about…

    “THE PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPOOOOOL!”

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  • my god working flat out……we are all working flat out joan on less money longer hrs. Don’t get expenses or money to eat our lunch at our desks….working flat out….what a joke. 100000 + crazy pensions + all the other perks hope he is working 24/7….silly season just begun. what will they day next.

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  • The government asked for a mandate from the people what they said at the time is not what they are doing now. working flat out , must be on the flat of their backs sleeping and dreaming up new taxes.

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  • Working “flat out” at what? Sorting out his personal debts?

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    • Do you know this for a fact kerry?? are you following the man around? Or is it just another castaway comment

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    • And working flat out at avoiding The People of Ireland

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    • No Declan I don’t follow him about. I read newspapers and listen to the news and I’m aware when the cuts were first announced O’Reilly disappeared into thin air and was not available for comment. Though the next day he did have the brass neck to welcome the broad band announcement. No comment on the HSE cuts on the weakest in our society though.

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    • @ Kerry: He did comment on the cuts, later that same day. Have a read back through the Journal’s archives if you don’t believe me.

      Who’d want to be Health Minister anyway? Not only are your personal business dealings used against you but 70-80% of your budget cannot be touched due to the CPA and any suggestion that it be touched is met with shock and disgust by your coalition partners.

      No wonder there are plenty of capable people who don’t go into politics. Everything is fair game to attack you with these days while your power is more limited than ever.

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    • Indeed he did Ryan. 6 O’Clock news was when he surfaced.

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    • Declan take note of the two question marks in Kerry’s post, they would suggest that she asked two questions and did not throw another cast away comment.

      Two fair questions I might add

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  • G 06/09/12 #

    Actually this article is wrong, I heard he interview, she kept referring to a James O’ Reilly, he is the one working flat out according to good old Joan Bruton!!

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  • Dr, James is shtone mad for healthcare

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  • The kop 06/09/12 #

    working flat out??? what? lying on the couch with a 2 litre bottle of coke in one hand and a extra large mars bar in the other!………….

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  • Zoltar 06/09/12 #

    These cuts are a disgrace to humanity. Invest in life, health, the emergency services and most importantly in the people that need it most.

    ‘According to the Chief Medical Officer of Ireland, a 30% reduction in alcohol- related harm would result in a cost saving to the Exchequer of €1 billion’

    ‘If we reduced alcohol-related harms by 30%, we would save 30 lives per month and 600
    overnight hospital admissions per day’
    Chief Medical Officer of Ireland, Dr. Tony Holohan

    http://alcoholireland.ie/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/aai_pre_budget_submission_2011_and_the_case_for_minimum_pricing1.pdf

    A former government adviser on drugs has told MPs that alcohol consumption would fall by as much as 25% if Dutch-style cannabis “coffee shops” were introduced in Britain.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jun/19/david-nutt-alcohol-cannabis-cafes

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    • Zoltar. Im not sure what you are suggesting? If Irish people themselfs took a more responsible attitude to Alchohol then we might see a reduction in numbers in our A&E wards for example…

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    • Funny thing .. Reilly was out drinking away on Sunday after the match! At macturkals outside his office.

      Outside his office.He was on the mobile. I hope it was personal phone.

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    • As I’ve said on here before, there is a culture in Ireland regarding drinking. Things like minimum prices are easy to introduce, but culture is something that can take decades (an multiple governments) to change.

      So that 30% reduction saving €1bn is much easier said than done.

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    • He could do with working fat out as well. He’s a bit unhealthy looking for his position isn’t he?

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    • Zoltar 06/09/12 #

      Thanks for the question, If you see the third quote regarding the introduction of cannabis cafes… This would not only give the populace a safer alternative to alcohol and cigarettes, disregarding the taxes made through sales the savings alone from alcohol harm would save up to 1 billion euro, save 30 lives a month and 600 hospital admissions a day. This would surely be a monumental saving to the health services that are forced to make these cuts right now.

      On top of that the gardai who haven’t got a new recruit in 3 years would surely be in a better place to police more serious crimes. The data coming back from Holland and Belgium who have decriminalized have also seen a massive reduction in hard drug use and addiction. This is achieved by separating the sale of soft and hard drugs. The taxes made from sales could go directly into drug rehab programmes but that’s up to the people.

      Patients and ill people who would like to have the choice to use cannabis (a non-toxic plant medicine) instead of liver toxic pharmaceuticals would be able to buy or grow their own medicine further enhancing the relief of the health service. There would be a more sensible and respected view of drugs from our young people if we told them the truth furthering a healthier generation for the future of this country.

      So no I don’t believe culture has to take decades to change, the last 40 years of prohibition has been a disaster for the entire world, drug use is up, violent crime and gangsterism is increasing exponentially.

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    • Flat out Joan??
      €10 millions worth of ”free” mortgage advice to prop up your accountant friends businesses??
      No wonder you are refusing to go on Vincent Browne these days.
      Broken election promises like the rest of yer lot.

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  • Ye, flat on his back

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  • Nobody can sort out the HSE with the restraints of the Croke Park Agreement and the unions refusal to back down in any way from the “What we have, we hold” mentality. Presumably there are members of the unions who see the insanity of this, surely at least the ones on the front line are going to question their union’s standing when they’re watching the consequences of the cuts unfold. A pity we don’t hear from them, I might have faith they exist if they raised their voices!

    Get rid ot the insane allowances, suspend increments (I’d do away with them altogether unless it was proved you were getting better at doing your job, don’t see why you should get extra pay just for having floated under the radar for another year of mediocre working).

    But the unions won’t allow any of this, they are as out of touch with the real world as the politicans it seems.

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    • Fon Ellard the Michael O Leary wannabe!!! Overtime for front line services is practically non existent anyway. You really want to take people’s pay from them without discussing the costs related to having the job in the first place? I assume you don’t work in a hospital A&E and face the crap they face and you seem to want them to do it for a wage that would make the said Michael O Leary blush. But out mind you buisness and if you feel so strongly about it donate some of your pay to the exchequer

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  • Ha Ha .. Godwin’s Law preside again.. gota love that.. always tickles me :-)

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  • We re all gonna die its just how we re gonna do it. Is it on our Knees? Well I’m not one for begging so I say we fight this thing.

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  • if we feel we have told these guys our stories and they are not listening what do you reckon we can do, now i put that to the people, if they do not listen how can we make em?

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  • is he working flat or fat out?

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  • Burton and Gilmore,I had such expectations.Pity.

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  • On Prime Time he says he will leave us without fear and with our support systems!
    the shoes i walk in -=—-no shoes, period, no food, i am ceoliac, no physio, i have dystonia, no transport, either ferrying to hospitals or getting out and about with disability.
    not enough care by primary care teams, eg no viable gp at present, as i am blacklisted in this area because i moved here with multiple disabilities and once was in the psych system.
    so in three years i have lost all this, so too, two people on my street dead due to neglect in the mental health system found dead in their home.
    many falling down the stairs in my last street due to illegal stairs in social housing.
    one man with his own children in his care dead at his door after falling down these stairs. two women with broken wrists, one man in calipers, learning disabled and deaf falling down the stairs, ending in cappagh and sent back to the very same social housing unit with no chair lift.
    one schizophrenic friend having her windows broken four times by chidren tormenting her.
    myself being shot at by children tormenting me, so i was able to leave but left utterly spent and traumatised.
    we have nothing in this country that Reilly can say to allay fear, we are fearful and people are dying because nothing is done for those on the lower levels of society, these people include, disabled people, working class, mentally ill and learning disabled.
    no social housing units purposely built for people with disabilities, they do sign such things as Barcelona accord but then you are told by a county councillor, Ah sure we sign everything, that doesnt mean anything.
    tell me people can you trust a guy who goes on Prime time and say we have nothing to fear, Reilly get real. you squandered our celtic tiger and didnt nothing to shore up in hard times. you neglected just about everyone other than wealthy and banks, you neglected us, and listen to these words. You have let us down horribly, all of you.

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  • Comparing James Reilly to Hitler is ridiculous. One will be remembered as a callous authoritarian figure who showed complete disregard for his own people in the pursuit of his own ambitions. The other was the leader of the Nazi Party.

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  • yep…thats about it!

    he said there was no u-turn as he never was going to cut PA’s of people who had them already…but….they ARE cut for people who need them. If you are getting 12 hours PA you’ll not be cut any…but you won’t get more if you need them!

    I have 3 hours a week PA…that means I can leave the house thursday afternoon …and only thursday afternoon. I can no longer self-propel my manual wheelchair but don’t have a PA to help me by pushing it. I don’t have a powered wheelchair…on a list told it would be year to two years waiting.
    I need two new hearing aids…ditto…two years on waiting list. and today I got my chiropody card for medical card holders. I can have 8 treatments in 2 years. I have deformed feet and develop problems frequently….and so it goes on….

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  • In the pub where I work most of the customers like Joan, they say shes a very nice woman when she meets you.

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