The last election would suggest that the country doesn’t agree that FF did what’s right for the country. What planet does this guy live on??????

He’s right when he says that FG “are continuing the fundamental pillars of the last government’s policy” though, and that will be their downfall.

That FF promo last night was a disgrace. I’d like to see a programme on Bertie up there sharing the blame. How quickly they all turned on Cowan. Couldn’t quite bring themselves to blame Lenehan. Don’t speak I’ll of the dead. That wouldn’t go down well with the party faithful. But it was implied.

Look at Martin’s forlorn face and those on last night’s programme. Like little orphans. Don’t fall for it again. Please.

I don’t think Micheal, that anyone could accuse FF of playing with politics. FF are an Irish Freemasons, enriching key members at cost to the rest of us, FF haven’t been about politics in the last 50 years.

I wonder is Micheal Martin looking forward to the Mahon Tribunal, will they mention the donations to FF that ended up in his wife’s bank account. Things like that could be misconstrued if he doesn’t get to explain what happened.

“did what was right for the country” What country? Certainly didn’t do the right thing for Ireland. The guy is clueless even now they still can’t see the damage they inflicted. They still don’t get it, there worse than the catholic church!

deluded twit, had a horrible nightmare d’ udder night where bertie won the euromillions and was on the news saying he was building a stadium wit de munny.

The Italians have stumbled into the correct solution. This crisis is potentially worse than a war. We need an Emergency Cabinet headed by men who are qualified to get us out of this mess. We have needed this for some time. Michael D’s first job should be to dissolve the Dail. Appoint a PM and assist him to construct a Cabinet.
Suspend politics and parties for a minimum of three years. Assess the new PM and his cabinet every six months and if they are not performing …sack them and get some outside assistance. Give them each a half million Euro bonus tax free if they meet their targets. Three years without 166 TD’s would easily pay for this. It will never happen of course…. too many Mé Feiners will endure that the needs of the country are always bottom of their lists.

Actually I think we are too far gone for any political party to do anything different. It is the Troika that is running this country and they are calling all the shots. We heard last night that Brian Lenehan was bullied into doing what he did and the same is probably happening with Enda. There is no depth whatsoever to what is trying to pass for a debate on this forum. Political party bashing Is for kids and it is sooooooooo boring at this stage. Angela Merkel wants changes to the Lisbon Treaty and the EU agenda is what this is all about. I think the sooner we are out of Europe and the Euro the better we will be.

This guy should be called Michael Martian because he’s obviously from another planet. Give it a rest you imbecile. You were all culpable.

As long as FF and its leadership in particular continue in this state of denial then the party quite rightfully will never again be seen as a credible option for government.

The economic crisis was mostly a home grown affair and is directly linked to the reckless policies pursued by FF (and the defunct PDs) since 1997. And Martin was right there throughout this period happily supporting such policies.

FF’s only hope of survival is if it completely reinvents itself with a leadership not contaminated in any way with its toxic legacy. As long as the likes of Martin, Willie O’Dea etc. are the public face of the party, then they will fall even further and be overtaken by SF at the next election. FF is already in 4th place in most polls.

I love all these sanctimonious comments, not a fan of ff or fg but where were these voices when we were all loving the Celtic tiger and happily not checking if we could afford our own spending. No one in this country is free of blame for the shite we are now reaping.

That’s not entirely true Marcus. There were voices speaking out against such disastrous and unsustainable policies but they were dismissed as “cranks” and “killjoys” by the people who were comfortable with the values of the Galway Tent and the vulgarity that it represented. Bertie Ahern even told such people to “commit suicide” at the time..

There were also hundreds of thousands of people who never invested in the inflated property boom and who never benefited from the trickle down effect of the so-called “Celtic Tiger”. Everyone is paying the price now however.

I do agree that far too many people were willing to join in the frenzy and ignore the warning signs. But the FF/PD coalitions faciliated such an atmosphere and that’s where most of the blame lies. And disappointingly, the near election of Sean Gallagher shows that a lot of people are still willing to support this kind of grubby and discredited politics.

Apologies for spelling your name incorrectly Marcas!

Now that FF, FG, and Labour are not to be voted for, who is left? Surely you are not telling people that the only people to vote for are SF. It is time for communities throughout the country to field their own candidates and have only candidates who have a proven track record of community activity (apart from SF).

Abstain your vote….spoil your vote…if there’s nobody worth voting for why bother? Ya putting muppets in ya get a muppet show and they aim they ave the people’s confidence. People didn’t vote for Fine Gael….thy just ddn’t vote for Fianna Fail…otherwise they’d have been in at the last election. The whoke political system in this country is one big self serving snout in the trough fest. Feather their nests and sod the ordinary person. But sure…they have 4+ years for us to forget.

As far as I can see Fianna Fail only policy was corruption

@Cal,Sinn Fein take the same money as every other Politician, don’t be fooled by their propaganda about the minimum wage. 14 Sinn Fein politicians in the dail cost the exchequer the same as 14 from any other party. They are against everything in the Republic, but have no compulsion about cutting everything from wages to Education to balance the books in the North.

Ha, ha ha ha ha ha haah!
FF, you can either dislike them or hate them.