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Micheal Martin: Five-way debates can be “empty shouting matches”…

…But he agrees to participate in five-leader debate on Sky news.

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NEW FIANNA FAIL leader Micheal Martin has said he will agree to a five-leader debate on Sky News. However, he also said that he’s still convinced that five-way debates “produce an awful lot of heat but precious little light”.

In a speech to the Sligo-North Leitrim selection convention yesterday, Martin said that there were “no catches and no tricks” in his proposal to Eamon Gilmore and Enda Kenny that they hold at least two three-way debates during the General Election 2011 campaign. He said that smaller parties would have some role in these debates, “though not at the expense of creating empty shouting matches rather than debates”.

Martin said he was happy to agree to Sky’s five-leader debate proposal, involving FF, FG, Labour, the Greens and Sinn Fein. However, he reiterated that he had “no intention of backing off from the absolutely reasonable request that the main Dail parties debate each other”. He made a personal appeal to Fine Gael leader Enda Kenny to agree to a “fuller” schedule of debates. He said:

Five-way debates produce an awful lot of heat but precious little light. The reason for this is patently clear – there simply isn’t any opportunity for real engagement between participants.

I am genuinely amazed by the position taken by Fine Gael on this. They were the ones who called for a new type of politics and signalled a willingness to have a real engagement between the main parties.

Enda Kenny said yesterday that Micheal Martin was in no position to “dictate” the format of television debates between the parties. He said:

There is no Taoiseach contesting this election. If we are going to debate the issues, all the leaders are going to be involved.

TG4 has invited Labour, FG and FF to a three-way leaders’ debate on February 16. Yesterday, Micheal Martin said that he would attend the TG4 debate whether Enda Kenny showed up for it or not. On the Today with Pat Kenny show this morning on RTE Radio1, Martin said he would also be open to one-on-one debates with all leaders, including Sinn Fein’s Gerry Adams.

Labour’s Eamon Gilmore was last night agreeing “in principle” to the series of debates proposed by Micheal Martin. This morning, Labour sent out a press release saying that the proposal from Fine Gael for one five-way debate, “at some unspecified neutral venue, that would be organised by some un-named independent body, and be covered by all broadcasters is a recipe for ensuring that no debate will take place” is “simply not doable”.

Sinn Fein and the Green Party both called for inclusive debates that involve the leaders of all parties represented in Leinster House.

The broadcasters’ plans

Broadcast media have begun finalising their plans for holding party debates and covering the general election campaign.

TV3 yesterday released their plans. They are proposing a three-way debate between the leaders of Labour, Fine Gael and Fianna Fail, to be hosted by Vincent Browne. The station has also assigned a correspondent to follow each of the leaders of those parties for the duration of the campaign – Brian O’Donovan will follow Martin, Jerome Hughes is on the trail of Kenny and Stephen Murphy is following Gilmore. Aisling Ni Choisedalbha will report on the movements of the other party leaders.

TG4‘s debate is, as mentioned, scheduled for 10am in Galway on February 16. It is proposed to be a three-way debate between Eamon Gilmore, Enda Kenny and Micheal Martin.

Sky News is proposing a five-way debate between FG, FF, Labour, the Greens and Sinn Fein. It would be a 90-minute debate and would be hosted by Adam Boulton.

RTE has not yet finalised its proposals for election leaders’ debates. The station yesterday announced some new politics-related changes in their schedule: The Daily Show host Claire Byrne is to present an election-focused Late Debate on RTE Radio1.

A new current affairs programme, The Eleventh Hour, is also due to begin broadcasting on RTE 2 on Monday night next. It will be competing with Tonight With Vincent Browne which broadcasts on TV3 in roughly the same time slot. TheJournal.ie understands that Claire Byrne had also been in the running to front the new RTE2 show. The Eleventh Hour will be hosted by Keelin Shanley.

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Comments (3 Comments)

  • I disagree with all this debate rubbish completely. More of the same showboating, piss taking and point scoring crap.

    Could we not have each party before an audience comprised of a cross section of people representative of the real Irish electorate on a show with a format like The Frontline, Prime Time or Vincent Brown’s show on TV3 or similar. The members of the public could pose real life questions to the candidates and see what clue they have about the realities we all face according to their answers. Different audience each week and only one political party at a time so there is no cross talk or bickering among the panel. Oh and use someone other than Pat the plank Kenny who does not ask someone to ask their question and then move on to the next question or person before they are finished speaking or get a proper answer. Someone with more balls than Kenny. Miriam O’Callaghan for example.

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  • but I don’t see how anyone can agree not to have a debate without SF present….they will get a huge swing in their favour i reckon

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  • Micheal Martin has no business attempting to call the shots on the debates if the polls and the people are to believed. FF could be a smaller party than any of Lab FG or SF and possibly even others that have yet to perform in the elections…. Martin is assuming that the political layout of the land is the same as in the last election. Labour better get their act together as they are looking stupid refusing other left parties into the debate and Martin will wipe the floor with them while FG say nothing and look good for it.
    Yeah lets have a 5 way debate, won’t produce any more hot air than what has come out of FF this last year.

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