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More clerical child abuse investigations may be needed – minister

Children’s minister Frances Fitzgerald said the government would take expense into account when considering whether to commission further probes.

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THE GOVERNMENT WILL consider ordering more investigations into child abuse by members of the clergy, children’s minister Frances Fitzgerald has said.

Minister Fitzgerald was responding to the release of reports yesterday, which criticised the handling of abuse allegations in six dioceses. The areas included Raphoe, where Church authorities were accused of failing to investigate allegations sufficiently.

However, the reports put together by the National Board for Safeguarding Children in the Catholic Chuch (NBSCCC) were themselves criticised by some groups. Amnesty International executive director Colm O’Gorman said the reports were “only published with the approval of the bishops concerned, and are not independent statutory investigations”.

Minister Fitzgerald said the Government would consider the results of an HSE audit of all the dioceses concerned, and further reports due from the NBSCCC, before deciding whether further statutory inquiries along the lines of the Cloyne report were necessary.

“When we put that info together we can decide if it is in the best interests of this country and the best interests of child protection to have further investigations,” she told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland.

The minister said she understood the frustration of victims’ groups that the latest reports were not as detailed as the Cloyne report, because they were not conducted on a statutory basis.

She acknowledged that expense was “one of the considerations” that would be taken into account when deciding whether to commission further probes.

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  • Can people who pray not just abandon this vile institution and and live up to the ideals of the Christian faith in some other manner? The Roman church has insulted and degraded the honourable beliefs of thousands of people and violated thousands of children, This institution needs to be abandoned and left to rot.

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  • easy way to pay for more investigations is to allow the c.a.b. to confiscate the assetts of the catholic church like they do if any other individual or group / organization / gang has found to have made lot’s of money through nefarious and illegal practices.

    i should think the child slavery practiced in the Magdalene laundries and in the rosary bead factories run by the sisters of mercy would be sufficient grounds alone even if there was no physical, psychological or sexual abuse involved ( which there undoubtedly was)

    why is the criminal assets bureau not involved in this?

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    • Because they don’t have the balls to do the right thing. The catholic church has far too much influence in this country, even now.
      The government and the catholic population is full of cowards. Government doesn’t want to upset their constituents and the constituents don’t want to get frowned at by their neighbours/ other sheep.

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  • The church has already proven itself incapable of coming clean about its abuse of people.
    The State has already proven itself unwilling/incapable of getting the church to come clean about the abuse of the people.
    The amount of compensation the people receive is controlled by the State board including a non disclosure signature.
    It is down to the people, yet again to bring about some change for the people. The whitewash is to buy time so as most of the priests die and those abused have to fight for the truth when they haven’t the strength to do so.

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  • If every man, woman and child goes to mass on Sunday, even those who haven’t gone in years and send a signal to Rome that the Irish Catholic Church requires change.

    Let the biggest attendance be the biggest signal by not putting NO MONEY IN THE COLLECTIONS. This will get Rome’s attention and give some hope to those who are so damaged from those who harmed them from within the Church.

    The majority of good priests would appreciate the assistance from those who would rather have their church remain healthy, rather than see it commit slow suicide. Spread the good word (someone once said) .

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    • Great idea! Its refreshing to see someone come with an idea that would actually make a difference, rather than just mocking the people that believe in god and the usual “burn the entire thing to the ground” mentality. .

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    • No protest (however big) is going to tell the catholic church anything it doesn’t already know. And therein lies the despicable truth.

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    • I would have thought that not attending mass would set a bigger example ?!

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    • It’ll take a lot more than withholding a couple of euros from the plate to change the Irish catholic church and a darn sight more to change the monolith in the Vatican. The only way these people at the top of the church in Ireland are going to change is if they are actually prosecuted for aiding and abetting in the abuse of minors wether it’s by withholding information on criminal and sexual predators, covering up for them or failing to put in place legally required safety procedures, also failure to cooperate fully with investigators should also made a criminal act and if these bishops are guilty (which most of them are in one way or another) they should face prison and massive fines, if they don’t/won’t pay then seize their commercial assets like any other criminal organisation and prevent them from carrying out any further business in Ireland, people can still believe in their deity and they can still go to their churches on a sunday but any property outside of churches like schools, colleges or anything else of value such as paintings, furniture etc could be sold in lieu of these fines and the money allocated to cover the costs incurred by the state and to pay the victims compensation for the abuse. The buck stops with the Irish catholic church an it’s cardinals and bishops and also it’s parent company in Rome. The latest tranche of abuse which is NOT independent and most likely not even the half what really happened is not good enough and an independent inquiry is what is needed to really get to the truth. The censored version we saw yesterday which was edited by the same bishops who were at the centre of some of the ‘significant errors’ is nothing more than a whitewashed version. The catholic church in Ireland is rotten to the core and as long as the current ‘leadership’ stays in situ they have zero credibility and a total lack of any moral virtue, they certainly are in no position to be preaching to anyone else!

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    • Ed
      I’m back with a new mouse! I’m trying to mind this one, but it’s one real and a zillion imaginary green thumbs this time.

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    • Anyone who thinks the church will change because some people stay away or don’t contribute to the plate is deluded. The organisation is rotten to the core and let no one tell you it has or is changing. It is not and will not, no matter how much more comes out in whitewashes etc like the one yesterday. The only good to come from these reports is that it may give victims the courage to come forward and find some peace in their lives. The cover ups and protection of the perpetrators goes on to this day, have no doubt about that.

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    • i would not attend on principal as my late grandma’s sister was unlawfully killed and buried in an unmarked grave in a place run by the sister’s of mercy.

      sorry ’bout that

      not a bad idea though they definitely need to accept a few they’re not accepting at the mo’

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    • ” to accept a few things they are not accepting at the moment.

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