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Former UCD bar staff to strike over unpaid wages

The campus Student Bar has closed with heavy debts – while the builders in charge of building a new one have also hit trouble.

UCD's Student Club, once one of the country's busiest pubs, shut over the summer with major debts.
UCD's Student Club, once one of the country's busiest pubs, shut over the summer with major debts.

FORMER BAR STAFF at the country’s largest student campus are to begin industrial action over delays in redundancy payments after its largest bar closed last month with heavy debts.

The main Student Bar on University College Dublin’s Belfield campus – which a decade ago was served by three on-campus bars – ceased trading in June, and laid off its staff in August amid fears that the bar could enter liquidation.

Talks had been held at the Labour Relations Commission over the summer to agree redundancy terms, but redundancy lump sums and arrears wages have not yet been been over a month later – with Mandate trade union saying bar representatives are now “unable to progress the matter”.

The union has written to UCD president Hugh Brady “asking him to intervene in this issue as a matter of urgency”, saying the former staff have been left struggling to cover their mortgage needs as a result of the bar’s difficulties.

A replacement bar in the college’s new €30 million Student Centre was due to open in the coming weeks – but that project has now been hit by separate financial troubles, as the contractor Noel Thompson Builders calls a creditors’ meeting amid major solvency difficulties.

The delay in the construction of a new bar means that the 370-acre campus – which plays host to roughly 15,000 students, as well as several thousand teaching and services staff – will be without a students’ bar this semester, for the first time since the campus opened in the 1970s.

Among the bodies facing severe financial fallout from the closure of the Student Bar is UCD Students’ Union, which itself is experiencing significant financial turbulence, and which nominates several members to the bar’s management committee.

Union president Rachel Breslin told campus paper The University Observer that draft accounts compiled by external consultants indicated how the bar owed the union about €120,000 by the time it ceased trading.

This was in contrast to a previous estimate when it was thought that the union had owed the bar tens of thousands in unpaid tabs. A comprehensive financial audit of the Union’s accounts commissioned last year revealed that the union had accumulated debts of over €1.4 million.

The main Student Bar in UCD had become the campus’ last surviving bar in 2010 when the construction the new student centre forced the closure of the previous Centre Club bar there. A third bar, located in the campus sports centre, shut in 2005.

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  • It’s a common problem, and will continue to get worse for college bars and retail. While you’d think bars and shops in a college would make a fortune due to the captive audience, the figures just make it impossible.
    The trading opportunity is dictated by semesterisation – so you have 2 x 12 week terms= 24 weeks trading. You can then exclude a week or two before exams when there are queues for the library instead of the bar. Within the remaining weeks, there are probably 3 nights max where the bar is busy, with no opportunity to attract the general public on other nights. And on top of that, you now have a culture of ‘pre-drinking’ which limits the amount a bar will make from a student.
    So while there may be ‘accounts issues’, the odds are stacked against college retail from the outset.

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    • Niall 22/09/12 #

      I agree with daragh, I drank there for 9 years back in the day and I have still to set foot in a busier bar. In the 90′s there were ques for 50 yards to get in at night and back then we had dam all money compared to today’s students.

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    • Darragh just because it is busy when you are there does not make it a profitable business 52 weeks a year. As is said above, it has two Semesters to make money ( no undergrads in the summer, so no point keeping it open for staff or postgrads). So they have less than 50% of the year to make money. It may be busy when you happen to go there, but that is a small portion of the year.

      Then as is said above, it will not be as busy during the busy study periods. Regular bars have a busy summer trade and have customers that turn up 52 weeks a year. Obviously a student bar will not. Given the macroeconomic factors referenced by an earlier poster, it is not that surprising that they may have financial difficulties.

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  • Oh my God no bar in UCD ??? Aaarrrrgggghhhhhhh

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  • Ah the many good times I spent in that bar back in the day. I even remember some of them.

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  • They should do what trinity do and sell cans to customers. I agree with above comments. It’s a case of overpaying an overstaffed bar.

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  • Andrew 22/09/12 #

    Fond memories of that place in the mid-90′s when it was a bustling, smoke-filled den – even at lunchtime. Fosters dollars were the ubiquitous currency of choice and were bartered for all types of college goods (lecture notes, cigarettes, pooltable money, busfare). It’s a real shame the place has gone to the wall – it was an institution.

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    • Ah the auld fosters dollar. The equivalent of fags in prison as currency for the perennially broke. You’d only actually trade them in if you were desperate as fosters is such muck not even ozzies drink it! I remember one rag week they did a drinking competition in the bar where you had to down two pints of fosters to win a special prize which turned out to be.. a pint of fosters! Doh!

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    • Same memories here. Mid 90′s, grungy, dank, dark, pool tables, a movie showing down the end and that Harlem Globe Trotters pinball machine. Place was packed all the time. The Fosters dollars indeed. That was a great deal. I got fond of Beamish stout there too, as that was cheap also. Sweet memories.

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    • mcgoo 22/09/12 #

      Happy memories…..Fosters dollars…happy days….

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    • mcgoo 22/09/12 #

      The sports bar was a good ould spot in the late 90′s too lads to be fair…..

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    • UCD is losing part of its culture by closing the bar…Some of my fondest memories are from Arts day, Commerce day, Wednesday comedy and Thursday night gigs in UCD, & indeed working in the bar as a poor student. It was not just about drinking back in the late 90′s early 00′s as people would just hang out drinking coffee and minerals during the day and playing pool while the night time bustled with people trading foster dollars for drink and chatting each other up at the bar…Simple times then

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  • you know the recessions bad when crusty students can’t afford a snakebite and black

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  • When I went to uni in Glasgow, the first thing that struck was the cheap prices in the college bars. A pound for a voddy and coke, with pints being about 2.30. I thought this was just a Weegie thing but nearly all university bars in the UK are like that. Always wondered how they could operate with those prices…wasn’t too far wrong because all student unions in Glasgow Uni were heavily in debt and the bars were the main culprit. Don’t know about the prices in UCD’s bar but UCC’s college bars were fairly outrageous for ‘student friendly’ prices.

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    • In the UK, the NUS bulk buy all the alcohol for their members, the Students ‘ unions, who run the bars. This makes them the biggest single buyer of booze in UK. Doesn’t happen here, as no bars are run by Students unions now..

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  • How can a bar in a university go bust? How? I don’t believe it this guy is hiding something.

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    • Pub prices are just too expensive. Sad to say, off-license alcohol and soft-drugs probably represent better value for money for students. And, as a commenter said above, a campus-based bar has less trading days in a year. As far as I know, this bar only ever had a 6 day listened, it wasn’t allowed to trade on Sundays.

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  • Brendan 22/09/12 #

    Ah the good old days of the Fosters Dollar at the student bar are a distant memory now. I learned to put backspin on a cue ball there so I’m very sad to see it go.

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  • How do former staff go on strike? Surely this is just a protest?

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  • I hope the bar staff get the monies they deserve, the ordinary folk at the end of the line are under attack once again .

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  • This is tragic. Many a night of my undergrad was flittered away in that bar

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  • Sahar 22/09/12 #

    I’m not going to lie, I love the new bar free campus. It’s somewhat more peaceful, no drunken loons runnung around! Full agreement that they should have been paid by now though!

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    • Snore zzzzz

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    • Have to disagree with Sahar’s comment above. I have lived in walking distance of Belfield for the past 20 years and now at the ‘tender’ age of 31 I am a mature student on campus. Can’t say I have ever been witness to or seen “drunken loons” running around. The campus is and always has been well managed with sufficient security, etc. I think it is incredibly sad and disappointing that there are no bar facilities on campus, as this is a strong social meeting ground for many students who may not know others.

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