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No comment from Fine Gael as Fred Forsey found guilty in corruption trial

The former Fine Gael town councillor was found guilty of corruptly accepting payments totalling €80,000 at a court in Waterford today.

Fred Forsey leaving Waterford Circuit Court today following the guilty verdict.
Fred Forsey leaving Waterford Circuit Court today following the guilty verdict.

FINE GAEL HAS declined to comment after one of the party’s former councillors was found guilty of corruptly accepting payments totalling €80,000 at Waterford Circuit Criminal Court today.

The party said this evening that Fred Forsey, the former deputy mayor of Dungarvan Town Council, had left the party “some time ago”.

A spokesperson said that as a result it would not be commenting on his conviction for accepting payments relating to the rezoning of land in Waterford six years ago.

Forsey, 43, was found guilty of all six counts of corruption after less than three hours of deliberation by a jury at the circuit criminal court today.

He had denied all the charges in the case relating to a 32-hectare site near Dungarvan which Forsey was said to have tired to get rezoned.

RTÉ reported that Forsey broke down in court after the verdicts were read out. He promptly left the courthouse with his partner Karen Morrissey having been granted bail before sentencing next Thursday morning.

The former councillor’s ex-wife Jenny was not in court having previously given Gardaí evidence against her husband before an investigation was undertaken that led to the eight-day trial.

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  • Stephen 18/05/12 #

    Man is a disgrace. I hate corruption

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  • Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!!! 1 down, god only know how many to go! Its only the tip of the iceberg!

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  • Now for the rest of them..

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  • Oh he’ll get jail. 7 years with a few suspended

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  • Is this the first politician to be found guilty of corruption? All Fine Gael’s talk about how corrupt Fianna Fáil are, and they cop the first conviction? Trying to remember if the development at the centre of this case was one of those subject to the planning review set up by the Dept of Environment and cancelled by Minister Hogan?

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  • That is why you shouldn’t piss off a woman, they bite.

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  • Give him the full 10 years!

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  • Fine Gael the No Comment, NO Debate, No Negotiation, No Idea’s, Flat Tax Party.
    Irish Politicians still an honorable ensemble of morally worthy people….NOT

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  • @susie yep I noticed that too. Their usual mouthpieces seem lost for comment lol. Wonder why?

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  • I wish to thank the jury.

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  • Revenge

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  • Too bl**dy good for him .
    Hey Forsey , just so you know there is no free lunch in the Big House either .. Be careful of favors being done for you …….. :) :)

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  • Corruption is a very serious crime IMO, it strikes at the heart of our society and weakens the foundations of democracy. What is the point in voting for someone if their allegince can be bought and they represent the highest bidder rather than their constituents.

    There is an onus on the State to ensure that public representatives found guilty receive a custodial sentence in line with the threat they represent to society. A suspended sentence or community service is simply not good enough. Those found guilty of such offences should receive a minimum 5 year custodial sentence. This would serve as both a message as to how seriously society regards the crime as well as a deterrent to others.

    It is regrettable that FG have not seen fit to comment immediately on the handing down of the verdict. One of it’s members, or former members, has been found guilty of corruption. They like to claim Michael Collins as one of their own, I think we can have little doubt as to how the Big Fella would have dealt with this. Their silence displays cowardice GUBU and a lack of moral fibre not seen since the heady days of CJ Haughey’s leadership of FF. It confirms the views of those who believe that FG are merely another cog in the corrupted machinery of the body politic. CJ Haughey was once famously described as “a cancer in the body politic” it would appear that cancer has spread as is it’s nature and it is time to consider cutting out the infected tissue to save the healthy.

    The longer making serious efforts to tackle corruption is left undone the greater the democratic deficit grows and this will send Ireland hurtling towards the Greek condition far quicker than any no vote on a european treaty. It is time this government evolved some vertebrae and joined the rest of the upright population of the island.

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    • fter a bit of google and research I now believe
      People are getting things out of perspective in this case. He was the former Deputy Mayor, he was not in a position to vote on anybody’s planning applications, he lobbied County Councillors to support the developers application, he did not offer any payments to the County Councillors, so where exactly is the corruption? To lobby is not illegal, and lobbyists are legitimately paid. It seems that what this guy got was a lobbying fee rather than a corrupt payment.
      Whatever a jury filled with emotion thinks, is really irrelevant. he did not have a vote, therefore whether the developer gave him €80, 0000 or €80,000,000 is irrelevant, he was not bribed. Lobbying is not illegal and that is all he did. Whether he repaid anything to the developer or not is again irrelevant, at worst it is a matter for a civil case between the parties involved. So the courts said guilty why question it, of course it will be questioned and appealed and the appeal will be successful.
      Also to add, in 2006 when this money was given it was only at planning stage and rejected by the planners in November 2006 and there was no vote, so who was he lobbing, the vote only took place in 2008 and this guy had resigned and went to Australia maybe it was a loan and the wife was piss off with him ….. What do ya think?

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  • Why is FG not commenting on this story ? Do they tink if they don’t comment it will go away ?

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  • The damage to society in not just the bribe. It’s the destruction of society with the blight of buildings and homes in places they should never have been built. It’s an eyesore on the Irish landscape and these buildings are here to stay.
    He deserves a custodial sentence but I do feel sorry for his children.

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  • I suspect this is only the tip of the iceberg.

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  • A small-time town councillor, gets caught for 80k. Makes ya wonder what the bigger fish are on sale for.

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  • On the heels that one of their own members was found guilty of corruption, Fine Gael for a change has nothing to say, no comment, no nothing. They are keeping their heads down, their mouths shut, hoping this latest stink which adds to their lies and many u-turns since gaining office, will quietly go away and probably hoping that there is no further calls for more investigations into suspected similar corruption elsewhere.

    Now if Fine Gael was looking for something off the people, you can be damn sure that there would be loads of comment from them – you know… like a “Yes” vote – but seeing as one of their own has yet again been found to be crooked, they have gone into hiding, gone into silent mode and shutting up.

    …Now if they would only go away too!

    Expect their partners in power to be good lapdogs and say nothing either. For sure, there is some there too that might need investigation and that boat they don’t want to rock either for fear of what might be further uncovered.

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  • Take note, menfolk…………nothing like a woman scorned……..have to feel sorry for their children though, their dad will be jailed, I suppose.
    Can someone inform me if he will be one of the first public figures jailed for corruption in Ireland?
    Keep it coming, bring on the rest of the corrupt bast*&*s and let the justice send the right message to the country that if you are corrupt , you will be caught and punished unless you are CJH et al.

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  • their is no chance of him getting jail ,if he does I’ll pay the household charge ,and vote yes to the fiscal treaty , why ?because he is part of the political system , and they don’t get jail !! this is Ireland not England

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  • No, he won’t go to jail. Why would he, the other bastards were never held accountable …. aherne, Flynn, donoghue, lowry etc. etc.

    Now, next case. Jane Doe, hasn’t paid her TV licence ….. 6 months in jail!

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  • So happy to see this happening…. I’ll sleep with a smile on my face tonight , now for the rest of them

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  • Flynn may never see the inside of a court room because FF won’t press charges and support the DPP.
    FF are not pushing to get their money back because they don’t want the attention and they are afraid Flynn will take a few more with him.

    We accept this! The Greeks and the French wouldn’t. ‘The Fighting Irish’…… hardly. The Greeks would fight.
    The Irish ring Joe Duffy.

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  • They saw nothing wrong with Olivia Mitchell kissing the developer after the council meeting on the night planning was given to him. Ethics – FG and Labour don’t have any.

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  • Whilst this is a welcome prosecution and conviction,it can be hardly said that the behaviour of a county councillor truly strikes at the heart of our society. The point is that far more serious matters have escaped prosecution which to me suggests a lack of will and technical expertise on the part of the authorities to make meaningful inroads in the investigation of serious fraud and corruption. This was an easy case to mount,thanks to the estranged wife. But almost 5 years ago disgraced solicitor Michael Lynn absconded with millions of euros of bank and client money. Though his whereabouts are the worst kept secret in Europe he remains at large. If the authorities are serious about fraud and corruption prosecution they need to show it.

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  • I went to primary school with Fred Forsey many years ago, though he was never a friend, I have keenly followed this case. 44 years of learning from my own manifold mistakes have led me to one simple conclusion, that humans falibility is the norm, this leads me to believe that very few qualify to cast the first stone. who among us has never lied or cheated for some percieved gain, or is sure they never will, given the right circumstances or motivation. I have never been involved in politics at any level, but if I was and subsequently a developer offered me 80k to loby for some development which on the face of it looked like bringing jobs and development to my town, I think I’d find the offer a little tempting to say the least.
    Lets be honest and not expect levels of morality from others which we nor they can live up to.

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  • So , there IS truth in old wives (wifes!) tales.
    I thought it was folklore.
    I stand corrected and ready to be punished.

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  • made 18/05/12 #

    Guaranteed he won’t go to prison, suspended sentence.

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  • I abhor the culture of bribery and corruption, but, are people getting things out of perspective in this case. The former Deputy Mayor, was not in a position to vote on anybody’s planning applications, he lobbied County Councillors to support the developers application, he did not offer any payments to the County Councillors, so where exactly is the corruption on his part ? To lobby is not illegal, and lobbyists are legitimately paid. It seems that what this gentleman got was a lobbying fee, rather than a corrupt payment. Care should be taken with this revenge on all politicians and developers culture.

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    • Nonsense. He was a deputy mayor. Did he present himself as a lobbyist paid by the developer? Was he being truthful saying the €80,000, repeat EIGHTY THOUSAND, was a loan? Did he repay the loan according to a schedule, or at all? The court found against him. Why question it?

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  • What he did is minor compared to what some people have done to bring this country down such as the bankers and you don’t see any of them in court.He doesn’t deserve jail just a slap on the wrist.Let the thumb downers begin:)

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  • Whatever a jury filled with emotion thinks, is really irrelevant. The man did not have a vote, therefore whether the developer gave him 80, 0000 or 80,000,000 is irrelevant, he was not bribed. Lobbying is not illegal and that is all he did. Whether he repaid anything to the developer or not is again irrelevant, at worst it is a matter for a civil case between the parties involved. So the courts said guilty why question it, of course it will be questioned and appealed and the appeal will be successful.

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