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The 9 at 9: Monday

Nine things you need to know this morning…

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EVERY DAY, TheJournal.ie brings you nine things you need to know with your morning cup of coffee.

1. #DEATH: A four-year-old boy has died after an accident at the National Aquatic Centre in Dublin yesterday evening. The boy was taken to Connolly Hospital in Blanchardstown where he was pronounced dead last night. An investigation is underway.

2. #PARAIC CASEY: A post mortem is due to be carried out on the body of the Irishman who died while attempting to swim the English Channel. Paraic Casey was reportedly just a kilometre from the the coast of France when he fell ill yesterday morning. He was later pronounced dead at a hospital in Calais. He had been swimming to raise funds for St Vincent de Paul and St Patrick’s Marymount Hospice in Cork.

3. #ABORTION: Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin has said that he “remains to be convinced” of the need for legislation following the X case ruling on abortion 20 years ago. Martin told the Irish Examiner that his party’s stance on abortion has not changed and that it believes in the right to life. His comments come as the Pro Life Campaign challenged remarks made by junior health minister Kathleen Lynch yesterday that the government would have no choice but to legislate for abortion in certain circumstances when an expert review group reports on the issue in September.

4. #CHILD BENEFIT: The government has yet to make a decision on whether or not to tax child benefit in December’s budget following remarks by the Social Protection Minister yesterday that people earning over €100,000 should pay tax on the child benefit they receive. Burton told the Sunday Times that the proposal has been discussed by an advisory group and the Revenue but the government says that no decision has been taken.

5. #SYRIA: Forces loyal to embattled Syrian leader Bashar Assad have hit back at rebels in the cities of Damascus and Aleppo. Following significant gains by the Free Syrian Army last week including taking a number of border crossings close to Turkey and Iraq and killing four members of Assad’s inner circle, government forces have been striking back in a bid to clear rebels from the capital Damascus, BBC News reports.

6. #COLORADO: US President Barack Obama has met with survivors and families of victims of the attack on the cinema in Aurora, Colorado which left 12 people dead and dozens injured. Obama said that he shared hugs and tears with the families and said the entire country is with the community. Meanwhile, the man arrested in connection with Friday’s shooting, 24-year-old James Holmes, is due in court later today.

7. #NOT SORRY: The owner of the school that refused to enrol a teenage girl because she was pregnant has defended his decision. The former principal of the school in Tipperary has told the Irish Independent that he has received universal support for his decision not to enrol the girl at the school in his first public comments since the Children’s Ombudsman said the school had discriminated against the 16-year-old.

8. #SEANAD: Six former members of the Seanad including former minister Mary O’Rourke and renowned former civil servant TK Whitaker have signed a letter in today’s Irish Times urging that the upper house be reformed rather than abolished as the government has committed to doing by way of holding a referendum. The letter was written at the urging of an informal group that is looking to set up a campaign to save the Seanad. The group includes former justice minister Michael McDowell and current senators Feargal Quinn and Katherine Zappone.

9. #OUCH: Bob Geldof might have an extra reason not to like Mondays today when he hears that his daughter Peaches has decided that he cannot perform at her upcoming wedding to Thomas Cohen. The Telegraph reports that the 23-year-old daughter of the Irish musician and activist has instead opted for a pre-approved playlist from a DJ saying it would “put a weird Freudian spin” on the event were ‘Sir Bob’ allowed to play.

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  • Anyone earning 100k plus should not get child benefit …………….. SIMPLE

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  • In England a child is entitled to Free education. That means books, workbooks, copies, pens and pencils are all provided. You buy your child’s uniform but any and all of the department stores stock them. You don’t have to have crested clothing. at second level all books etc are provided. Hot school dinners are subsidised, so every child has at least one hot meal per day. All medical and dental treatment is free and the waiting lists are shorter that ours. It’s no wonder people need their child benefit etc here the cost of everything for children is very expensive.

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    • pens and pencils ,rulers etc are not provided you have to get those yourself, but as you say ,hot meals are and this is one big area where Ireland should take a leaf from the u.k system. the gov’t is always banging on about healthy eating and child obesity yet every break time ,dinnertime you see thousands of kids down at the local chipper or shop buying food that the govt considers as unhealthy, free school meals would as you say ensure that children have at least one decent meal per day at a subsidized cost, after all the taxpayer subsidies the restaurants and bars in the Dail and the Seaned, so why not for the schools? as for free dental and medical care for children, this was proven to save millions in future health costs. Most of this will never happen here because of the cronyism that exists not only at govt level but at local level too.

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  • You can’t say that if people can’t afford to educate and look after kids shouldn’t have them in the first place. What about families who were financially comfortable but ended up losing their jobs when businesses closed etc, should they have foreseen this happening and not had kids? For some of these families the child benefit is helping them keep their heads above water.

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  • No such thing as free education. Uniforms, books, exam fees, mock fees, school tours, school events, shoes. Needless to say you don’t have children and you haven’t a clue to the ever rising costs involved.

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  • the owner of that school who would not let that teenage girl enrol because she was pregnant should be ashamed of himself ,would he let her enrol if she had gone to England and had an abortion ,this is a total disgrace and proves how backward some people are in this country ,he must be a perfect human being to judge this girl .

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    • along with the abortion issue that has taken over 20 years since the x case to make a decision on, this just shows how much power and influence the church still has over Irish politics, some people in high positions in our education system seem to think that they are the morel guardians of the whole country. on some issues we are still living in the 1950’s.

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    • Marion,
      These insects don’t understand the concept of ‘shame’,. They hail form an institution that allowed and hid decades of child sexual rape. How the hell does a dimwit whose mental conditioning is wedded to the mpost hypocritical form of superstition get to run a school anyway? The girl will learn she’s better off getting educated elsewhere. I do hope she overcomes the vilie insult hurled at her by this superstitious, slack jawed,mouth breathing ape that is the school owner!

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  • 100% agree. What kind of a pompous Dickensian clown thinks he has the right to deny any child an education? There are far too many idiots like him in this country. That fool shouldn’t be allowed near children if this is the type of care he is providing….

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  • Good God, dont tell me we have to through all that hysterical crap about the abortion thing again? I am sick to my stomach listening to hysterical people ranting about the absolute right to life of the child. I wonder how many of the hysterics would volunteer to take in an unwanted child? Not many, I can tell you they are all full of zeal but not willing to back up their ranting with practical action. Because that would mean taking responsibility for their ranting, and while they dont mind ramming their opinions down other peoples throats, they lack the courage to back it up. We fostered 7 children and reared two of our own, personally I believe abortion is murder, but there is no absolute situations and many of the assumptions made by the idiot brigade such as in the choice between the life of the mother and the life of the child has since been proven that such a thing can and does happen, in that sad even would the zealots make the decision to end the life of one or the other? We pay the politicians [overpay them] to make decisions like this, time to make them earn their pay and make the decision as individuals, not following some crazy Party line of dogma.

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  • It should, but it wont, because the whinging, bitching, begrudging and spineless Irish voters will play safe. The thing is a waste of public funds providing a haven for political has beens and never will be’s, witless farts who couldn’t make it and their cronies have given them a soft bed to lie in with all the perks of the Dail with none of the responsibilities. Common sense would say tear it down with the worn out old farts inside, who is going to miss a traitorous lying politician past their sell by date. All it does is rubber stamp decisions made by Merkel for Kenny and the rabbit, wake up people, time to bury the dead, dump the Euro and stand up as free people instead of the sheep you have become.

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  • In this age unless everyone becomes an academic there won’t be any jobs for people, so the politicians say they are going to increase jobs but how?
    The manual labor in factories, mines etc is gone, its done by machines or the Chinese.
    The government really should increase benefits such as child benefits as people can’t get jobs and the only remedy I think is to increase education so that students can get academic jobs(free education).
    To back that up according to Wikipedia 72% of workers in Britain are service workers(tertiary sector) and in the future when machines carry out more service work(Automated Trains etc) the workforce will migrate to the Quartinary sector(Academia) to control such a high-tech economy!!!
    So free education, more benefits(especially child benefit) and government investment in high-tech industries!!!

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  • And how dare you tell us who have paid our way for many years and are bringing up our children as best we can on very little because our wages or our spouses/partners wages have been cut to shreads say we should not have children

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  • I feel sorry for you Barry. You sound full of your own self importance and out of touch with reality.

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    • Oh don’t feel sorry for me I’m fine it’s you people who expect the rest of the country to pay for your kids , and most of the money is pissed up against the wall that’s why pubs and off licence do deals on drinks on children’s allowance days

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  • Still feel sorry for you Barry. Dont think there is an ounce of empathy in you. Plus you are generalising with your comment” you people”. The majority of people in this country have worked hard pay their taxes and some through no fault of their own have lost their jobs and had wages cut. Myself I have raised 2 kids on my own and worked all the time. Get a life

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    • Get a life !! Oh I’m so sorry that I don’t agree with you , it’s my opinion and in my eyes it’s the right one and I’m sure your the same with your opinion but I don’t get personal I’m the bigger person

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  • You dont get personal ? Lol. you just as much called me an alcoholic and a scrounger and that you pay for my children, my husband pay’s enough tax and usc and so did I to pay for our children

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  • Relax ? I m relaxed and just replying to your stupid comment. If you come on here and make comments like that except someone to reply to it Barry

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  • Oh jesus, you compare a child to a car ? Says it all really, with a statement like that I dont believe for one second you have children. May god love you if thats how you make up your mind

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  • LOL Barr you are funny, see I knew you were telling porkies when you said you had children, now go on out while it is dry and have a game of football with your mate’s and get out from under mammy’s feet like a good boy

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  • LOL Barry

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  • The government should not tax child benefit , they should scrap it all together why should I pay to bring up somebody else’s kids there is free education that’s enough for them , we can’t afford these silly pay outs anymore

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    • Where is this free education you speak of? It cost me almost 2000 euro last year when my 2 children went to secondary school. 1000 for books, 700 for school uniform, school coat, school gloves and scarf (because they are not allowed use their own) and 300 “contribution” to the school. There were also miscellaneous costs throughout the year which came to a further 400 or 500. And this is a local VEC school, not a private school. There is no such thing as a free education in Ireland. You clearly have no first hand knowledge in this area.

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    • Barry, you are either a total wind up merchant or just dont have a clue about life outside of your pond, we dont have any children either but we do have nephews and nieces and seeing how much it cost’s them just to get dressed for school is scary enough, 45 euro for a school jumper, 80 euro for shoes, 130 euro for a blazer which wont even be worn half the time or will be hidden under a large waterproof coat , 30euro for a shirt, 25 euro for the school tie, not allowed to wear any ordinary blue tie, it has to be the school issue one with the little logo on it , times this lot by three to allow for changing clothes during the week, and you’ve got a fair few bob to layout, thats before the books, the sports gear, the pens,pencils, calculators, there is NO FREE EDUCATION in this state. when the government implements proper free education to all, then it may be able to look at reducing child benefit.

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    • I tell ya what, when you have kids you can write a letter to the social stating that you don’t want your childrens allowance caus my and everyone elses taxes are paying for it but then again we all know you wont!

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    • Barry. Where u getting the free education for ur kids.books ,school bus ,school fees, special uniform,p.e.gear, outings,transition year expenses ,and then of course after all that grinds..we would have a very small population if we got it all costed first .

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    • Barry, tell me more about this free education you speak of.

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    • Niall 23/07/12 #

      We won’t see poor hapless Barry back I’m betting. He’s just been owned.

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    • @ Barry – just wondering how you feel about paying for the dole of all those who were and still are unemployed before the recession hit us? They are the ones who couldn’t be a€&@d to work! I don’t have a problem and I sympathise with those who lost their jobs and who r struggling to pay bills and feed/clothe their kids but not those who can’t be bothered to work!

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  • Yes I have kids and I’d happily give up my benefits , if you can’t afford to put your kids into school or dress them , don’t have kids it’s simple as that

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    • Mind you don’t fall off that high horse Barry !! Maybe you can afford to give your CB back, but for many it prevents their children living in complete poverty. As a parent would you wish that on any child. This Government would be better reducing their over inflated salaries and pension schemes, not to mention reducing the numbers of TD’s…that would produce significant savings. Attitudes such as yours do nothing but illustrate the divide that is growing in Irish society.

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    • You “would” give up your benefits? What’s the ‘if’ then? Go on, tell us, Ebeneezer… :)

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    • Let me clarify; Barry says he “happily give up” his benefits. Spo I’m wondering why he doesn’t? Why don’t you, Barry, go down to the Welfare and write pout a check, and hand back your benefits? Surely you could come to some arrangement with the Revenue with regards to tax returns?

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    • As a matter of interest Barry, who exactly are you employed by, with such narrow-minded, ignorant, uneducated views?

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    • Barry did your mother give back your CB when u where a child if not u benifited like the rest, and u r way of about across the border.Should only wealthy people have kids??? who will b paying your pension in years to come!!

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  • Nobody should get child benefit ..simple , and 300euro to educate your child is not bad at all, you can’t expect the government to pay for books and uniforms you have to take some responsibly for bringing up your kids and can’t expect hand outs all the time , if you were in England or America it would cost you thousands every year ,

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    • Again you seem to be talking about things you don’t know. In England, the school provide the books to the children and in the North, they also provide the uniforms. In America, you pay for private education, not for state education. And it’s not 300, it’s about 1000 per child. That is one of the reasons our child benefit is as high as it is. Also, we pay for doctors and dentists unlike our European neighbours…

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    • your wrong Barry, in the u.k ALL reference books are provided by the school and kept in the school they are handed out at the start of each lesson and handed back in at the end, most u.k school that have a uniform ‘policy’ do not insist on parents buying uniforms in a select few shops,( as happens here), and most school ‘badges’ are of the sew on type that can be removed and re-used when an item of uniform is no of use. schools in the u.k don’t “ask” for donations towards the school as they do here ,these donations are really fees not donations, also in the u.k kids only bring to school the equipment that they need for that day’s lessons, here the kids have to haul around great big back packs full of every book’s and stuff that they wont even use that day. Ireland and its children would be far better served if some of the u.k’s system were introduced here.

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    • What has childrens allowance got to do with being able to afford to have kid’s ? For most of us it’s all we get for year’s of working. Barry, did your mother hand her’s back ?

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  • I didn’t say don’t have kids I said if you can’t afford them then don’t ,, would you go out and buy a x5 BMW and expect me to pay for that because you can’t afford it ,,

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  • Oh relax god how dramatic are you , just saying if you can’t afford something don’t have it and expect others to pay

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  • Very early this morning. Everyone must be keen to get ahead of the game today.

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  • Well that’s my opinion and sticking to it , just strange how people expect to live for free , and no I don’t agree with the dole I think people who were on the dole during the boom and still are should be cut off ,, and how dare you ask what I work at that’s so immature

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    • It really was a rhetorical question to highlight your ignorance.
      And of course you are entitled to your opinion, but also in expressing it on a public forum entitled to have it challenged, even ridiculed, and your general assumptions exposed as incorrect.

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