Well there’s 3 that won’t show up

The Bank Boards

I adore debates with Vincent Browne.
To this day I cannott understand why his show is broadcast so late.
After all.
We educate our children in school during daytime hours and NOT at night.

Well Enda hasn’t accepted any of Vincent’s invitations to appear on the show so far – he’s unlikely to start now!

Will Enda accept this great invitation…….. Hope he does

@Too Trueleft

You forgot to add……’love Angela’ :)

Quality :D It’ll be reminiscent of the character Dr. Strangelove from the movie of the same name, trying to stifle the nazi salute!

@Martin. Apparently Peter Sellers had Stanley Kubrick rolling around on the set biting on his fist to stifle the laughter during the shooting of those scenes. Brilliant movie.

Appropriately enough Dr Strangelove’s character is based on an economist who advised President Eisenhower..true dat.

The five point plan was so good, Sinn Fein have decided to copy Fine Gael and do the same!

Wrong there, Keith. Dr S was ‘based on’, or rather copied from, Dr Henry Kissinger.

Nixon’s pal and the bomber of Cambodia (which bombing brought Pol Pot to power).

@karlmarcks: in fact the writer, scientist and philosopher Paul Strathern in his book ‘A history of economic genius [also Dr. Strangelove's Game]‘ claims John Von Neumann, the Hungarian polymath and founder of game theory (from which Mutually Assured Destruction is partly derived) as the inspiration, citing Norma Macrea’s biography of Von Neumann in turn. Both Sellers and Kubrick denied Kissinger as the inspiration. Given that the movie was made in 1964, five years before Kissinger served in government as NSA advisor, it’s hardly likely. There are other theories, but Kissinger doesn’t fit at all.

who will operate the strings

There’s more chance of Fingleton giving back the 1m !!

Just checked with Paddy Power! You can get 6/4 on a no vote in this referendum! Get on quick. The momentum’s swinging towards a no vote!

Conor the maybe elected representatives but this is not an election but a referendum about a single issue. A debate implies putting forward arguments for and against so the public get the breath thinking on the issue and so both sides need representation not on party lines but on their stance on the treaty. Otherwise it becomes an exercise in indoctrination and propaganda

FF FG and LP were all democratically elected and so are due representation in the debate….. Just because the 3 parties seem to unanimously back one decision does not mean they are not unique parties….the ula and SP might argue otherwise but I mean really? What the hell else would you expect…democracy is dying if a yes vote is reduced to being pro bankers!!

@Orla, my concern would be of the clowns who will vote yes solely because SF and the likes get involved representing a No vote and reasons for it, It could do more damage to the No side than intended, a bit like Unions getting involved and people deciding to change to a Yes vote because of it. Ridiculous but that’s the type of electorate we are dealing with.

Quite so Orla. The main parties are all equally happy to sell out Ireland to the Euro financial elites.

It case you didn’t see it, Vincent’s recent program with economists Steve Keen & Constantin Gurdgiev was excellent & the antidote to the bullsh1t that FG LP & FF spout on this topic. It’s a must watch & you can see it again here:

http://www.tv3.ie/3player/show/41/47620/1/Tonight-with-Vincent-Browne

(Dan O’Brien of IT & Laura Noonan of Ind. were there too, but as usual both out of their depth & clueless. Fortunately they don’t get to say much.)

Note to VB/TV3 please re screen this program in a prime time slot before the referendum. It’s long past time Irish Citrizens heard some economists worthy of the title.

Yep, we’re a great country for wasting money…meanwhile Indas spending 17 million in the Euro shop on dusters and rat traps. And I wont mention how much he spent on a letter opener and a personalised Inda rubber stamp!

They have lied to the people and they have failed.

It’s not even amusing anymore.

it wasnt amusing day one

I wonder are we thinking of the same person ???? Lol

100% correct about Iceland. FFg//Labour held Iceland up as the basketcase of Europe and the reason the people should not vote for SF at the last general election. SF advocated following Icelands lead. Where are all the FFg/Labour genius economist now??? These same amateur economists still condemn SFs economic policy, and still try to tell us that Iceland is a basketcase, or try to put some other spin on how Ireland couldnt copy Iceland, because of this, that or the other. They make excuses at every turn and never admit they have not got a clue. I am tired of FFg/Labour telling us that Black is white. They would try and sell sand to the Srabs, ice to the eskimos, they are that stupid.

Thats disturbing

And feed them a bucket of prunes.

Only because it’s vin b the rest of the tv3 stuff is fodder for the great unwashed

@Ryan Allen,

My opinion is still the same! Crap presenters, crap station, crap debate chairman! Amateurs! The only ones I’d give any points to would be Siobhan Basibale, newsreader and the mid-week presenter(can’t think of her name).

Vincent is the exception to the rule on TV3. That’s the reason.

I have no issue with Enda not showing up. To be honest the commentry from Vincent Brown with the bottle of whiskey and a gun slur is unforgivable. If he worked for RTE he would have been sacked. it just goes to show the double standards in Ireland. If Enda Kenny had said that about Vincent, can you imagine the uproar.
If there is a debate then Simon Coveney should cover the FG aspect. He is the director of elections.
Vincent is meerly trying to drum up viewing figures.
I actually listened to him on Newtalk yesterday and quite frankly the man is on mars!!!! He has no idea of what is really going on in this country….
If i were Vincent I would get my affairs in the leafy suburbs addressed first before i go throwing stones…

Thats right Declan, make excuses for your Il Duce leader again. His disdain for the people in this country is becoming more and more obvious every day, regardless of what optics and spin he tries to use.

Cal,
As i said before, I really want nothing to do with you on this forum. Please dont address me any fashion. I have no interest in anything you have to say.
Goodbye and thankyou

I have to agree, Matt Cooper was definitely the most professional during the presidential debate. VB was entertaining, but really didn’t let some of the candidates pitch their stand, the way he did others. I would personally welcome a fair and balanced debate on the issue at hand, rather than a facilitator who goes in with his own pre-conceived notions and favoritism, regardless of how entertaining it is. And trust me, VB’s presidential debate program was good TV entertainment, but did little or nothing to enhance the overall understanding of the watchers in terms of the Presidential Candidates abilities. Unless VB could commits to focussing on the issues and nothing else (ie lets not start whinging about the troubles in 1916, 1969, 1979), and actually discuss the impacts to our country resulting from voting yes or no, other than the joy i would get from watching Inda, Gipmore and Mehole squeaming, i really dont think it would be value added.

@Cal,

Wow! we agree on something!!!! :) I agree with you that V Brown would only entertain (some) people. But the majority of viewers really want to know and understand better than they do now. This is a really important time for Ireland and we will really be setting up the future for our children as Ireland will be theirs and their children’s …. not ours.

Has to be Vin B only man to put manners on the FF and contunity FF

Agree Sheila, it’s always about Vincent Browne whomever he interviews. ….

Inda, Eamon & Mícheal don’t deserve manners or respect, They deserve VinB talking down to them like minions!

@Sheila I have to disagree with you. Vincent is very passionate about the topics of the debates he chairs. He asks the hard questions of the panel and doesn’t succum to the pandering and typical spin type answers that politicians usually spill. He is the only journalist to ever question the EU/ECB over their demand that the Irish people repay anglo’s debts. I do agree that Vincent can get very hot under the collar at times but he is robust in his interviewing style and many people respect that.

@Sheila Byrne……. Well said! Couldn’t agree more! Vincent is completely biased, hard to understand. Sounds like he has taken a few drinks before coming on air. Reminds me of worzel gummidge with the interchangeable heads, with his two options being, the just out of bed look, or the I’ve been down the pub all day look.

Sheila, how is Vincent Browne inexperienced? He has spent his whole life working in media and current affairs! TV3, RTÉ, Sunday Tribune, Magill etc. He covered Northern Ireland for years, presented Prime Time, hosted his own radio programme, and he’s been presenting the current programme for a good few years now and has interviewed most of the members of the current and previous governments.

Sheila that sounds more like Pat Kenny, not Vincent Brown.

@James Daly & Philip Doyle

James, that’s like telling me that my bank manager would be the best person to ask for a loan! Most of them have no ‘people skills’. They haven’t a bloody clue. Yes, obviously, he has experience in media, covering nth of Ireland, etc., that does not make him the best person for the job. So has Pat Kenny, Joe Duffy, George Hook etc. That doesn’t make them the best person for the job either. They all show and present their own agenda, thoughts, feelings, no matter how much they try to play devil’s advocate. I watch and listen to all of them and I feel Matt Cooper or David McWilliams would be the best, to me, in my opinion, to be able to control the debate. One of my very last choices would be Pat Kenny!

@ Sheila, David McWilliams definitely.

@Philip,

Yes, David McWilliams is an economist and would have a fair idea of how to go about the debate. I chose Matt Cooper because he speaks clearly and has a command/control at a debate. Best one I saw him at was the Sugar Club Presidential Debate. Brilliant.

More often than not, I can’t understand what V Brown is saying, he slures his words and is a bit diddery! Sometimes, I find him lost in his questioning.

Your government better start looking at plan B cos a NO vote is a definite possibility.

And this last year has been the self destruction of the FG party!

What are you talking about we hear loads about the treaty but bugger all thats in it really, so went and read it myself! mentioned on number of occasions The ESM anything I can find on the net about ESM ain’t bloody good in my oppinion and anyone who can vote yes on it is stupid a sheep or blinded by the leaders bull crap are you a party tow the liner or what??
Also any other guidlines that I see can not actually be controlled by a government but bloody markets again so if we muck up due to economy again we get penalised and pillaged again by the people who controll the markets! Are you so blind to the fact of whats actually going on here??
I am not that well educated, but one thing i was taught well, was to think for myself! and if you research enought,( has taken me a week) you will see whats really going on!
A yes vote for the treaty is a life line out of financial dificulty yes but more borrowing and nothing in the treaty really can stop things like this happening again and again so we borrow again and again and more intrest and banks get richer and richer is that the future you see for the country and our kids!?