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Phoenix Park: Call for ‘airport-style’ security checks at some concerts

Fine Gael TD Derek Keating has said that certain concerts should have security checks carried out that are akin to those which take place at airports.

A general view of the concert site at the Phoenix Park the day after the Swedish House Mafia concert
A general view of the concert site at the Phoenix Park the day after the Swedish House Mafia concert
Image: Niall Carson/PA Wire

A FINE GAEL TD has called for the introduction of ‘airport-style’ security checks at certain concerts following the trouble which marred the Swedish House Mafia gig at the Phoenix Park last weekend.

Derek Keating was speaking in the Dáil yesterday evening when he said that concerts deemed to present a risk of violence and anti-social behaviour should have more stringent security checks in place.

The Dublin Mid-West TD said that the trouble which broke out at Phoenix Park, which saw nine people stabbed and dozens of arrests along with the death of one person from a suspected overdose, must never be allowed to happen again.

“We need an immediate change in the approach to how these types of events are organised,” he said, adding that licenses for events should be granted only where conditions fully reflect a “comprehensive risk assessment that takes into account the profile of persons likely to attend any event.”

“I believe these conditions should also stipulate that increased security measures need to be put in place for certain types of concerts,” he said.

“If, following a risk assessment, there are concerns that there may be an increased risk of violence, then airport-style security checks should be mandatory.

“This would make it possible to identify knives and other weapons that may otherwise be brought into the event undetected. Carrying a knife to a concert is a premeditated crime in my view.”

Justice Minister Alan Shatter has promised a review of all aspects of the concert last Saturday to be carried out by the Garda Commissioner and has called on the concert’s promoters, MCD, to apologise for the “level of disorder” at last weekend’s concert.

Shatter: MCD should apologise for ‘level of disorder’ at Phoenix Park gig

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Comments (28 Comments)

  • What, so only 100ml of liquid allowed?

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  • From someone who clearly hasn’t a clue about going to concerts.. This is both impractical and expensive, and this still won’t tackle the alcohol or majority of anti-social behaviour.

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  • A few muppets dragging it down for the rest of us.

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  • Scarr 12/07/12 #

    More useless ideas from the out of touch brigade. This plank is really earning his money with this one. A complete knee jerk suggestion no doubt to appear tough on anti social behaviour. What a fail. Corralling the drunken idiots who caused the trouble into a que to get into somewhere they want to go will cause more fights minister. More. And more is bad.

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  • First off public parks should not be used by private promoters to make profit for themselves. Why did MCD not rent out venues such as the Aviva, the RDS? Was it because the OPW gave them a better deal? I’d also like to know if MCD paid the OPW and if so how much?

    The second point was made by another contributor MCD should have opened up the area earlier in the day and let people settle down a bit before the show.

    Lastly, and here the anti drink people will give me a hard time, but from what I hear the drinks inside were too expensive. People were buying cheap(er) alcohol outside. Then they drank it ALL and too quickly and thus got too drunk.

    The OPW and MCD have a lot of questions to answer. Also lets not forget there was about 45 thousand people at the gig not everyone there were thugs. Those who ruined it for others and injured people should be to book and pay a very heavey price.

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    • Sorry, but the park has been used for years for live events. Why do you care if concerts are being held there? It’s a wide open space close to travel amenities so it’s the perfect place for a large show.

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  • Walk through metal detector and then proceed to retrieve the knife you threw over one of the many walls surrounding the Phoenix Park.
    Rocket science it is not.

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  • Disgraceful how this government continue to shrug responsibility. As commented to Alan S. yesterday, when this government can control one single street in Fublin and rid it of violence, then they can call the kettle black.

    I call for airport security for every pub, football game, open air event, blooms day, all GAA events, all streets in every town, our private houses and all places of business. That’ll make us all safer

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  • Dont think the airport style scanners would work really, Dublin airport only takes in 50,000 people a day and it’s scanners are open and running 24 hours. The concert would be over by the time people got in.

    What we need to do is the same thing that we do every time there’s a problem that we can’t figure out a way to fix. Look at how every other country does it. You can’t implement a policy, make something legal or illegal, raise a tax or lower a tax without a huge debate over how every other Western country does things, so why not now? We are one of the only countries with this problem. I went to an Oxegen style concert in Germany, 70,000 people, every day I left my phone in my tent, and my tent door open because it was too warm. I used to leave for hours on end and nothing was stolen. This is the norm in foreign festivals, because they don’t take any messing. Ok we can’t prosecute everyone with a zero-tolerance policy, but we can kick them out. I can’t ever remember seeing a fight in a nightclub in Ireland, ever, because bouncers here will kick you out for any indiscretions. And that’s the way it should be at concerts.

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  • Or don’t make everyone down there cans and bottles at the front gate. Give them an area to sit and enjoy the day before the concert.

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  • More dope and more dub would sort the whole mess out.

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  • If everyone lived in strictly policed camps we’d be much easier to control…..

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  • If a ‘certain’ type of event attracts a ‘certain’ type of people then don’t hold the event.

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  • If MCD want to hold concerts in future let them go to a nice bog in Leitrim.

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  • A load off shit

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  • OU812 12/07/12 #

    Metal detectors won’t detect broken glass or ceramic knives.

    Unworkable.

    They should have a booze ban at it though & if someone is obviously p1ssed, they don’t get in.

    Your not going to remember the gig anyway I’d you’re sh1tfaced.

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  • If police used Sniffer Dogs at the security entrance it would cut down on the drugs use and resulting violence. Not that difficult to implement and cost effective.

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  • Of course what criteria will we use for this risk assessment? We’d save money by applying it across the board to all open-air concerts. The cost of these security measures would obviously put every small festival not run by MCD out of business, but that’s a small price to pay compared to having the electorate arbitrarily up in arms again over these young people and their dance music.

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    • I think that by “certain events” the TD actually mean “events that are likely to be attended by certain types of people”, rather than outdoor events.

      It’s realistic profiling. The security at an Ireland v England football match would be significantly different to that of an Ireland v England rugby match. The former involves visiting police and stricter UEFA/FIFA guidelines on matchday security. The latter is a much quieter affair.

      There isn’t a one-size fits all approach to security and policing for concert events, or any other type of event. The risk profiling should be different depending on the circumstances. There’s more police presence when students protest, than when OAPs protest. It’s not being ‘unfair’ to one group. It’s saying: “The risk of a small number of individuals causing trouble in this demographic is higher than in other demographics”

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  • Off course there should be stricter searches and security put in place ! It doesn’t matter how expensive it would be we don’t put a price on the cost of someone’s life , all seven ppl stabbed could have died . At least with more stringent searches less of this behaviour will take place. C’mon ppl on the last article you were complaining about thugs an security , now someone puts a suggestion out there to help the situation without blaming the music an the comments are still negative !

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    • Some of these comments are absurd!

      There are always queues getting into concerts and this guy didn’t go on a stabbing rampage because of booze, he obviously has greater problems!

      And the glass/ceramic knives point? Seriously? You’re rejecting an increase in security because it isn’t 100% infallible? If it’s good enough for airports/Obama speeches, it’s good enough for me!

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  • Why not the Politions apologise for letting the youth of
    Ireland down !

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