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Poll: Should the Late Late Show be scrapped?

RTE says it is happy with the ratings for the first show of the new season – but do you think it’s time for a change on Friday nights?

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RTE1′S FLAGSHIP CHAT show dropped almost 200,000 viewers between the end of its last season and the first show last Friday night.

An RTE spokesperson told Ken Sweeney in the Irish Independent that the station is satisfied with the ratings – 650,000 people tuned in last Friday to see host Ryan Tubridy interview Sinead O’Connor and an excitable Cuba Gooding Jr. The viewing figure for the last show of last season was 832,000.

Is it time to draw the curtains on the Late Late Show or should we hold onto the longest-running chat show in the world? Have your say here:


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Comments (104 Comments)

  • Can there be a “Find a less torturous presenter” option in the poll?

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    • Perhaps a scrap RTE option in the poll? Or a sell RTE option in the poll? I would rather sell RTE to private investors than sell the cash rich lotto, afterall the Lotto makes money, RTE loses money, privatise it and keep TG4 as the only national broadcaster? I doubt Tubridy, Kenny and the rest of the “spongers” would get such huge salaries in the private sector???

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  • The problem with RTE is that they don’t like giving a chance to new talent. It’s the same faces over and over again. Grainne Seoige is going to be on everything this year, because RTE are trying to justify a no doubt crazy salary for her. They weren’t satisfied with just keeping Miriam O’Callaghan doing Prime Time. They had to give her a talk show despite the fact that she’s terrible at it and loads of new talent would have killed for the job. Pat Kenny is a great presenter when it comes to current affairs but he should never have been given the Late Late job. He seemed out of his depth. Tubridy is another example of someone who is completely overrated and actually makes you wish Pat Kenny was back doing it. The same faces keep appearing on the Late Late Show over and over again. It’s like they can’t get any good guests so they just head down to the RTE canteen to see if Twink or Brendan O’Carroll happen to be hanging around again.

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  • The problem is rte. Too many overpaid members of the clique, they have to be fixed up every time a new show comes on stream. Then they devote the shows to interviewing each other, or members of the clique who have theatre shows to plug. Spare me people like twink, John waters, Brendan o Connor, Miriam o Callaghan et al. Over exposed! And please, not the other annoying noise, Katherine Thomas. She’s worse than Tubridy.
    How about a crisp, one hour show, like jonathon Ross, with maybe the guest list picked by somebody who can think and not by the Pr darlings. We might even get an occasional Irish author in the book slot, or is that just too unlikely?

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    • I agree, the show would be much better if it was shorter. My main problem with the Late Late is the length of some of the interviews. Talking with one guest for 25-30 minutes is fine if you’re interested in that particular guest. But if they’re a bit dull, it just seems to go on for ever. Stick to an hour, with no guest getting more than 15 minutes – then it might be watchable.

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  • Scrap it, it infuriates me to watch this rubbish after paying a tv licence fee. A overpaid presenter appears to promote other rte shows and presenters, then a guest appears to sell their book followed by a advertisement break. Then a promoter pays rte more money to have some bad music group on the show who then advertise their new album. More advertisement space given to other guests and companies promoting products followed by another commercial break. The show in my opinion has deteriorated to 10% topic and 90 % advertisement format.

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    • Couldn’t agree more.

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    • … and what would be your magic formula, Frank, you obviously have vast amounts of experience in TV production based on your expert analysis of the chat show formula in particular and the television industry in general?

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    • I am no expert but I am forced to watch this when I visit my mother some weekends. The shows brand is ingrained into her generation as it used to be controversial topical, enlightening and good entertainment with a mix of local issues and celebrity appearance, now it’s complete commercial muck. In short just mix the show up, you dont have to pay or research much to find local issues. Examples plenty of charities, people loosing homes, suicide, inspiring stories of sucess in diversity, maybe once in a while feature a upcoming band not sponsored by a major label, local heroes. Let’s face it we have far more interesting people out there than local celebs. Celebs might guarantee a certain audience that’s non risk, but no variety or risk means death of show.

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    • Those are good suggestions, Frank, and I’m sure that some of what you suggest will appear in the series over the coming months. The chat show format is one of the most difficult formats in television and it’s impossible to please all of the people all of the time, at best, all you can really hope for is pleasing most of the people, most of the time. There will be times when it falls short of even most of the people but there’s a reason that the LLS is still with us as a format and that’s because, believe it or not, most of the time, most of the audience actually find something in it that they like.

      There’s always a love hate relationship with a chat show’s host, that’s human nature. PK had his fans and detractors, as did GB, so does RT. The chat show host that everyone likes all of the time just doesn’t exist.

      Think about all of the chat shows on all of the channels over the years and think about how many are still with us and you will get some idea about how difficult a format it really is.

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    • Frank, or anyone else, does not need to understand the TV industry to see how tired and boring the LLS now is. Even the set is not original, being a rip off of U.S. TV chat shows

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    • I liked GB ALL of the time!

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  • travors 07/09/11 #

    I gave up on it after Ryan’s disrespectful and embarrassing interview with Richard Dawkins.

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    • That was disgraceful! The way he spoke to the parents last Friday, which don’t want all primary schools to be exclusively catholic so their kids indoctrinated was abhorrent! He makes his biases very clear!

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    • In fairness, in that show there were three people who spoke for Catholic schools and, if my memory serves me correctly, there were eight people who spoke in favour of other options including the couple who were on the panel.

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    • And Maria, the clock was ticking too fast for any dissenters, while the trite texts and emails of the “it’s a catholic school, shut up and pray” brigade were read out ad nauseum. It would have served the memory of the original LLS better if the debate (all sides) had been afforded enough time to be heard, rather than rushing it through to accommodate Sinead O’Connor’s search for a shag.

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  • The problem isn’t just the format, it’s coupled with the inability of RTE to find a satisfactory presenter. Ryan tubridy couldn’t host a disease let alone a chat show.

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  • Does anyone actually like Ryan? I’m sure personally he’s lovely and this isn’t a personal attack but as an interviewer he is dire. I can’t watch the show because I end up feeling embarrassed for it’s host. Only watched last Friday for Sinead, maybe not so clever putting her on last as I was being constantly reminded why I haven’t been watching it since Pat Kenny left

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  • There was harsh, very harsh, criticism of the show last Friday on twitter. RTE might just hide their twitter hastag #latelate this week in opening titles. I don’t think it’s about the Late Late or indeed Ryan Tubridy. RTE just doesn’t have what it takes to get a good show together. It’s about time RTE took a gamble on a few things, including chat show hosts and most of all, at their programming schedule. There are lots of great independent, interesting and most of all, relevant, programmes being made in this country. We still watch Winning Streak, badly made reality TV, cook off’s and endless documentaries on the recession. It’s depressing

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  • Crap presenters – and one long publicity machine for every who is just releasing an album, announcing a tour, publishing their book or just some other crap, the Late Late Advertiser is just rubbish.

    Between format, presenters and mode of operation, its just dire since Gaybo exited.
    He kept it on track and reined in.

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  • Get rid of Ryan and I’d prob watch it

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  • its RTE that’s the problem

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  • I always thought Pat Kenny got a bum deal. He was no Gaybo but infinitely better than Tubridy, who gets more smug and cringe inducing by the week. In reply to another comment, Kathryn Thomas is no solution – another talentless airhead, the like of which RTE seem to be able to produce effortlessly.

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  • It is cringe making , embarrassing and at times childish .

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  • If you are not in RTE then you obviously have no talent, therefore you do not exist. Just pay your license fees and enjoy what we give you.

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  • Maybe RTÉ should have a real look at these comments! They’d probably dismiss it as young people online with nothing better to do.

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  • A fresh young new face wud be a start

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  • If I ate a tin of alphabet spaghetti I could poop better and more interesting words, commentary and introductions than RTE presenters.

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  • biggest load of rubbish rte has including tubridy,time to look elsewhere for talent.

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  • How many men under 50 like to watch Ryan Tubridy?
    Close to none. He is the least likable mans man ever.
    Why did 27 people go to the bother of answering “dont know” to the poll?
    What the F$%&
    Why is it an option?

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  • Keep the late late and get rid of Tubs. The late late used to be a great talk show, a lot of controversial content. Now it seems to be more about the latest d list celebrity plugging their mew book/cd whatever. That or picking Jedward for the eurovison! I stopped watching after the ronan keating interview. If an interviewer is just going to gloss over touchy subjects – what’s the point? Especially as that interview was so highly publicised as no holds barred.

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  • Why not take the BBC/ITV/Channel 4 approach? 1 to 1 1/2 hours is more than enough for a show, 3 guests, 1 live music act and a host with a bit of personality and a bit of banter with the audience in between guests. Graham Norton makes it look effortless, while watching Tubridy at it makes me cringe. We have plenty of comedians/personalities who would be more than capable of doing a great job of the show, such as Mark Cagney or Gareth O’Callaghan, and at a fraction of the price. RTÉ needs to severley cut the overpriced wages of their so-called “stars” anyway, regardless.

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  • Having all guests on at the same time like Graham Norton would help relieve the boredom. Tubridy is way too tied to the short Letterman/Leno format which actually produces pretty boring interviews and is too celeb orientated rather than getting on authors or people with something to say like Charlie Rose. He’d be better to look to the Parkinson/Wogan approach where there is at least a conversation about something, especially if researched properly. Unfortunately Tubridy has fairly limited interview skills to bring out the interesting content. To much is about his opinion and him, rather than being a cipher to bring out what the guest has to say.

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  • RTE is the one cosy cartel that never seems to hit the headlines, wonder why? have yet to see a prime time special on salaries paid to senior staff there, although they are very fast to obtain details of the retiring members of the public service under the FOI act!! Overpaid elites that bombard us constantly with their own vision of an ideal society i.e where us the muppets are forced by law to pay their huge salaries whether we want to watch them or not, is that not what was the case in the USSR once upon a time ?????

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  • Its the same faces for everything all the time in RTE…..Now lets poach Jonathon Ross !!!

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  • Scrap it

    format is rubbish
    presenter is rubbish
    content is rubbish

    that of course is based on last years late late, i have made a decision to make better use of my time on friday nights this year so i did not watch the show last week and i intend to stick to that decision.

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  • The Late Late is a long established Irish institution! Like the Catholic Church or Fianna Failed it needs to be confined to the history books a a past shame

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  • RTE keep bringing in talentless morons because they are reliable and turn over a few quid profit. Tv licences are expensive because we have to pay said morons’ salaries, and the whole thing is one vicious cycle. I’m sure there are more talented independent interviewers out there who could host a better show and bring something original to the table and command far less money, but the industry here is such that only an elite few will ever be wealthy/successful enough to ever make it to the top slot on Friday night. RTE will never get someone who is any less than a Dick to host the late late simply because you have to be one to make it that far. The majority of license payers simply want that type of sleazy moron on tv… they have enough loyal followers to keep bringing in money. IT was never about talent with rte

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  • Tubridy is an ideal news reader not a chat show host, the show still has great potential but not as long as Tubridy there.

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  • the problem is the quality of guest, they spend a fortune on low brow celebs when the traditional late late had current affairs debate and information. Not like another vincent brown type show but topics that mean something to the viewer at home. The saturday slot was for the celebs and rubbish (kenny live, tubridy tonight etc) so put some life back into the friday night talk show. It doesnt have to be all serious either.

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  • What does it matter, the (useless) presenter will still take home his huge salary, as will all the other RTE workers. No savings will be made one way or another.

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  • agreed Teresa but u still have to pay the licence fee, thats the tragedy

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  • Cuba Gooding Jr? and anal loving Sindead O’Connor? This speaks for itself.

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  • It finish when poor old gay retired but he to retired at the right time

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  • That show has been a farce for years and is well past its sell by date, I think RTE are ignorant to the fact that some new generations have come along since Gay Bryne left 13 years ago. It goes to show RTE is still run by Dinosaurs.

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  • Titus d 07/09/11 #

    It needs a new face, a modern TV talent who worked their way up and has their finger on the pulse of 80year olds… Gay Byrne

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  • its not the host of the show, its all the z list crappy so called celeberities and big brother no hopers floggin books that someone else wrote for em, its been a long while since there was an interesting guest on the late late show,

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  • I’ve tweeted #latelate for a year now and the final straw was putting the above hashtag on screen last week. Whoever thought drawing attention to the negativity would be a good idea should be fired. Next out the door should be whoever books the guests, the list is so saturated with RTE heads and ‘What’s My Ailment’ segments that any presenter would struggle. But finally Tubs is awful. He can be great on radio, he interviewed Alastair Campbell to great effect on BBC but he loses interests in boring guests too easily. He regularly embarrasses female guests (Binoche, Maura Tierney last year) and has v narrow interests of his own. He’s not curious enough. Give the show to someone else who can at least feign mild interest in the guests

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  • I can’t stand Ryan tubirty. All his interviews are cringe worthy!!! need a new younger presenter. Maybe a woman this time. Like Katherine Thomas (thinks thats her name the one who does operation transformation). Dont give it to Miriam or Brendan o Connor can’t stand them either. Miriam is good at the political stuff but her chat show is rubbish

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  • Not sure if I have the stomach for another publicity stunt every week like we were treated to by Sinead O’Connor et al last time.

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  • Just sell RTE and get rid of all them overpaid self-opinionated arseholes

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  • LLS- Yawn ! Rte ? Yawn ! They never give anyone new /young a chance IMO.Same old faces ,formats and end result.Can’t & don’t watch the home channels .Thank God for choice.

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  • Its that Turbidy that should be scrapped…the guests are atrocious also

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  • RTE have the perfect host for the LLS, Claire Byrne. She’s intelligent, a great interviewer, can mix current affairs with celebrity interviews, easy on the eye, has the likability factor, she’s naturally comfortable in front of the camera, she’s young and current.

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  • It’s not so much Tubridy, it’s the talk show format itself that’s struggling everywhere. There are few real stars about, too many PR stunts and too many agents dictating what questions can be asked.

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  • It should be rte thats scrapped. I find it a very depressing station. I would watch maybe 2 programmes a week on it.

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  • i feel part of the problem is also the guest’s they have…….there not as interesting as guests where when gaybo was doing it..i used to love watching it and the x mas show with gaybo was brill…but today most of the so called” i’am famous but god knows for what reason “stars of today are about as interesting as watching shit dry …and are really only on it to push a book or push an album or something and that would be fine if you where gona have a long career and make lots of albums but in todays world that no longer happens that much …..a new young person would be great for it and if they can re-vamp the show and somehow get better guest’s on it and a better host than that knob Tubridy who does it now then i would say keep it but unless hell freeze’s over i dont see that happen cause rte dont do change…….

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  • the late late show is brutal and should be scrapped ,im sick and tired looking at the same faces listening to the same stories rehashed …..RYAN TUBRIDY is a terrible interviewer and always looks like he has a poker stuck up his ass,he seems to be intimidated by the guests who are by and large nobodies,the one and only time i enjoyed the lls lately was when take that were on it and on that occasion they not TUBRIDY made the show ……this talentless man does not deserve the enormous pay cheque he gets each year ,i say get rid of him and let the show take its final bow

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  • RTE really need fresh blood across their whole sphere of national influence for some time. There are too few broadcasters having too much power for many years just taking a wage and coasting along. It’s also too left wing and union organised to be an effective national broadcaster representing the views of a more centralist educated Ireland. The level of intellectual discussion on Liveline or Frontline is certainly way below par forcing people who should contribute something intelligent to these discussions to sadly remain totally silent and their views are not heard. Sadly, on these shows ‘he who shouts loudest are heard the most’ and usually these type of people add little intellectually to discussion on National Strategy to Health, Economic and Fiscal Planning, Stem-Cells, Abortion or whatever other issue requires people of a certain ethical or moral responsibility to contribute most.

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  • * should be scrapped. Sorry

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  • They have ONE bad viewing figure and suddenly this means the show needs to be off air??

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  • This poll really needs a, “Get rid of Tubridy” option.

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  • It is the longest running chat show in the world, it’s unique! So in short, no.

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  • If it means not paying for a TV licence that only fills the pockets of RTE despite their advertising revenues, then scrap it to hell. Otherwise it’s not really making any difference either way despite the 0.5+ million who seemingly tune in each week.

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  • Baz 07/09/11 #

    One for every Granny (up from the bog) in the audience.

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  • One show yet this year and you’re basing its popularity on that?? I’m not a major fan of RT or the Late Late but it still has the highest viewership, has interesting guests a lot of the time and attracts a crowd of all nearly all ages. Does that not tell us something or are we just jumping on today’s bandwagon…..

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  • Frank, I agree with some of what you said but its one programme out of many. I don’t blame you for being frustrated of the lack of decent guests on the show but if we were to complain about every bad show on RTE, we would never stop complaining. Its not just the late late show that needs revamping. Recently there was talk about the government selling off state assets so why not sell off RTE? I’d sell it off, cut the licence fee in half and spend the licence fee on something worthwhile, like putting it towards creating jobs.

    Elizabeth, would you have preferred if Tubridy had grilled Keating on his affair and the effect it had on his marriage? I know he’s a public figure but personally I have no interest in listening to Keating trying to justify or even apologising for what he did. What good would that do his wife and kids? Besides, what has that got to do with anyone else except his wife and kids? Its nobody else’s business. I don’t think he has to justify himself to me. I’m not the one he hurt. I’m not condoning what he did but frankly, its just gossip if we pry into people’s lives even if they are celebrities.

    I’d much prefer Tubridy interview a singer on music related issues. But i would much prefer to see him grill certain allegedly corrupt polticians or bankers. Now that is our business!!

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  • jimmy 15/10/11 #

    scrap it the figures keep dropping and rte blame it on football or something else.
    it just seems to be about death and misery,this runs with the radio show which seems to be taking the same road.
    either give tubridy a kids show to present or a programme on american presidents and death

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  • It’s the longest running show. The older generation are still interested in watching the show. We can’t be watching only political talk shows always. LLS is entertaining. But guests sharing and advertising sexual needs like in the last week program could be avoided. RTE needs to remember that it’s a family oriented program viewed by all age groups. So let’s have a quality show.

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  • Rob 07/09/11 #

    its far from being the worst thing on RTE!

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  • I don’t think they need to change the presenter or the format. Just a better standard of guests. Frank, while i agree the show does need a bit of revamping and its a good idea to make it more about local issues instead of just about celebrities, i think the odd celebrity interview does no harm though. Different people have different tastes. I just think they need more variety to the show. It still does have a big audience so that should say something. I wouldn’t change too much or they might lose the audience they do have. There is taking risks and there is taking calculated risks.

    i still don’t understand how you’re forced to watch it though. Is your mother holding a gun to your head? Why not visit her when the late late show is not on? Like earlier on a friday or even on a Saturday or Sunday?

    As for people complaining about the licence fee, i suspect that even if we had top class programmes on all the time, people would still not be happy paying it. You can please some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

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    • Never said no celebrities but needs a good mix with local issues. My mother was used as a example of their main audience, it’s a institution to her, no matter how bad it is she hangs onto the assumption the next guest may be good. The night used to be time off from minding kids or must see gossip for chat with friends. Not forced to watch it but it’s her relax time and enjoys chat during it because of dreadful guests.
      I think tv licence payer have right to complain because show is so commercialised now and value for money is waisted on presenter and celeb fee,s . If they are to copy usa model its a race to celebrity only show with more exposure of host driving up their false salary.
      The show has been running for over 20 years which has been highlighted as unique in the industry but so is having revenue from public tax,then allowed advertisement break revenue followed by product placement revenue from appearances during show. I think it is pure greed that they have to fill all the airtime with advertising that provides more income rather than give something back to public or give air time to charities. In it’s current format the only evolution left is for tubs to come out with sponsored suit and eat a sponsored snack during show.

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  • ARE YOU CRAZY. Its an institution. Besides we like to poke our nose’s into everyone else’s bussiness and see how the other half live.

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  • I love the show, I look forward to it on Friday night. love Ryan he is great.

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  • Didn’t take the lynch mob long to get into gear did it?, the 1st programme of the season compared to the last of the previous season. Can anyone provide similar viewing figures for the drop in viewing figures this time last year ? I dare say we’d see the same thing. Look people, the Late Late probably has it’s lowest viewing figures on the first edition back for a number of reasons, not least of which is how poorly it was promoted. You can spin the nehative very easily.

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  • I was at the show and actually found it very entertaining. I thought there was a good mix of serious and light-hearted, great music and the week-end away for everyone in the audience was brilliant. It’s actually a much better experience when you’re actually there!

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