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Privilege days case might lead Howlin to tackle all public sector leave

After plan to abolish two privilege days for civil servants was rejected yesterday, Government may look to make savings across a broader section of public servants.

Minister for Public Sector Reform Brendan Howlin
Minister for Public Sector Reform Brendan Howlin
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A RULING YESTERDAY which allows civil servants to hold onto their two privilege days may push the Government into looking for reform across the holiday leave for all staff in the public service.

Brendan Howlin, the new Minister for Public Sector Reform, told RTE’s Nine O’Clock News last night that he was “disappointed” by the ruling by an arbitration board yesterday. The board rejected plans by the Government to scrap the two privilege days which date back to pre-Independence times.

The privilege days were traditionally given at Easter and Christmas and will now be given in addition to the civil servants’ annual leave days.

According to the Irish Times, Howlin said that the Government would now be looking at ways to standardise annual leave across the entire public service to try and claw back savings that way. This would involve other staff across the public sector including those in the HSE and in local authorities.

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  • People have commented here and in other forums that a country is not a company and should be run very differently. I’m reading Henry Ford’s “Today & Tomorrow” at the moment and while my interest is predominantly manufacturing (as was his), Ford applied his principles of factory management to schools, hospitals, railways and farming. His take was that everything should be in private ownership as only then will real efficiencies become apparent.

    His employees were the highest paid in the industry. His opinion was that his employees should also be his customers and that the more that people were paid, the more cars they would buy from Ford as well as being able to provide for their families quite comfortably. He did all this while DRAMATICALLY REDUCING the cost of producing a car.

    He didn’t believe in a bonus culture or piece rate. All staff were paid a basic wage for working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week with no overtime. Some staff were members of trade unions but the unions never had a dispute because the staff were paid well above average.

    Henry Ford was the most logical thinker of his time. He broke everything down to the bare facts and figures and saw everything as a process. He had TWO layers of management – Office (Administration) & Shop (Production). The supervisors in each area were also regular workers and only became supervisors if problems arose, which they rarely did.

    My point is this. In the private sector, companies manage processes and find the most efficient way of doing each one. The best way today is not necessarily the best way tomorrow and people are encouraged the find new and better ways of doing it. In most cases, they are not given, nor do they seek, a bonus/pay rise/extra days holiday for doing this as it’s part of a very transparent agreement between the company and its employees.

    The public sector is also made up of a number of processes. Different processes, perhaps, but no less complex than those in the private sector. Processing a passport application is a process. Teaching a child is a process. Open heart surgery is a process. You find the best way today, do it, improve it and get paid a fixed wage for doing so.

    It is my belief that nurses, teachers, guards & other front line public sector staff should be paid €100,000 net per year. While members of the civil service are also public servants, they are the administrators of the state and as administrators, they should be paid accordingly (LESS, basically). In return they should be made to work harder, work longer hours with more defined targets, performance measurements and a simple, transparent pay scale with no bonus culture and no ridiculously archaic annual leave or privilege days attached.

    Identify the process. Find the best way of doing it. Do it. Improve it. Repeat.

    A country is not a company. But it should be run like one.

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    • Simon, your story about Henry Fords policies makes for interesting reading. I don’t necessarily think civil servants necessarily get overpaid (they’ve had their share of cuts too) but I do think they could work harder/more efficinetly i.e. more defined targets and probably get more annual leave than is ‘fair’.

      However, when it comes to your belief about front line getting paid €100,000, I think this may be a little exaggerated. Sure, nurses deserve more and I don’t understand why they get so little in proportion to doctors but I don’t see how €100,000 can be justified for say teachers or guards. If you know any guards, you will know that they have probably the best deal going when it comes to work and getting overtime. They are one of the best paid professions when I look around my friends. They were my friends who were able to get mortgages despite the worsening economic conditions.

      And then you mention teachers. Having done subsitute teaching in my time and getting paid an hourly FIVE times the minimum wage I found it incomprehensible that teachers actually get that kind of money when you actually break their salary into an hourly rate. Sure it is tough work but I think there salary and three months summer leave more than compensates that.

      Our country has many problems. Start with the most obvious and get these right first. The HSE, civil service, the banks and mortgages. Get these right first and then concentrate on rebuilding our broken economy. Let’s invest in new roads, schools, hospitals so we get people working again and so we don’t lose a genration emigrating. If the Government is serious about rebuilding our country then they need to get it right fast.

      For the record I am a recent masters graduate with four years of full time work completed and I am still earning less that an entry level CO in the civil service. I am not resentful of any of my friends working in public service jobs however it is unrealistic for me to think that I could apply for a mortgage on that kind of wage in the private service without a ‘job for life’ box to tick.

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  • Sorry Susan, but you seem to have a type-O in the last para which changes its meaning completely. I think it should be ‘now’ instead of ‘not’. Forgive me if I have that wrong but it would seem to be more likely given the context of the article.

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