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Comment #5949288 by Mick Rick Jones

Mick Rick Jones Mar 6th 2017, 3:07 PM #

re Brid Smiths latest pro abortion Dail publicity stunt and cynical exploitation of Tuam baby tragedy are despicable, blatant opportunism.

In abortion mills in the UK and elsewhere, dead aborted babies remains are NOW routinely dumped as medical waste, incinerated to heat the hospital where they were aborted, left to die alone and unaided, and sold by Brid Smiths fellow abortion campaigners Planned Parenthood, as aborted baby body parts for research or transplant.

Brid Smith, and her pro abortion PBP party, push for abortion on demand here.

How “cruel and inhuman” is this abortion mill treatment now, happening today ? Smith and her ilk, condone this and campaign for similar abortion mills to be available here.

Smiths exploitation of the Tuam baby tragedy to push her own pro abortion agenda is despicable.

The abortions Smith and her PBP pro abortion campaigners demand, kill a human baby every single time, in every single abortion.

Voters should remember that their votes give Smith and her pro abortion mates, a Dail platform to push for abortion of babies on demand. Voters have a responsibility to oppose abortion of babies and those who push it.

Defend unborn babies by voting pro abortion pushers like Smith out.

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A new bill aimed at decriminalising abortion in Ireland will be debated by the Dáil tomorrow.

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    Favourite Tony Daly
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:13 PM

    @Mick Rick Jones: The Tuam babies, real babies having been born, were neglected when they could not be sold and the bodies were dumped in sewerage silos without Roman Catholic rites and not in a consecrated grave yard.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:23 PM

    @Elle Belle: abortion is not murder. Only the extremist Youth Defence subscribe to the nonsense that abortion is murder.

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    Favourite Tom Burke
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:27 PM

    Elle

    I agree with most of what you say but we don’t have evidence the Tuam babies were murdered. Truthfully, I don’t believe they were and I’ve never heard a valid suggestion they were.
    They were disrespected in death and their dumping was horrid.

    There has been no evidence or valid suggestion though, that they were murdered.

    There is no consistency to suggest that as they were all different ages.

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    Favourite eileen boles
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:28 PM

    @Mick Rick Jones:nowhere do u say the nuns in charge of those Tuam babies had compassion , because they didnt your whole argument is devoid of any compassion. Thats what its all about.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:28 PM

    @Elle Belle: Abortion is not murder.

    This is another one of those “opinion as fact” claims.

    You cannot be tried for murder for procuring an abortion.

    But you know this. And yet you keep repeating the same old lies. Could it be that you’ve been “advised” to do so?

    Why, just who could be advising you people to adhere to a particular inciting vocabulary?

    When will you trot out the “pro-aborts”? Isn’t that in the handbook too?

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:29 PM

    @Tom Burke: The Catholic League asserts that the Tuam babies scandal is totally fake and that no bones ha ve been found. None of the babies died and it is all a made up story. Never happened.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:30 PM

    @Tom Burke: I don’ t believe they were murdered. I think it’s far more likely they were neglected and died as a result.

    What other explanation do you have for a DOUBLE the rate of mortality in that place?

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:30 PM

    Tony
    Do you have evidence to support that claim?

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    Favourite Tricia Golden
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:33 PM

    @Tom Burke: Eh, really? You haven’t read the article? You should try Google under “Catholic League”

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:36 PM

    @Tom Burke: Irish Independent and at least 6 media outlets in the USA.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:36 PM

    Tricia
    My mother came from a comfortable enough background. There were 9 children in her family and 2 died before 3 yrs of age. They wouldn’t have died today but they weren’t neglected.
    They got the best medical treatment of the time but still died.
    The mortality rate was probably higher in the homes because of overcrowding.

    Remember, whilst hospitals were built to make people better it’s also the place where you are more likely to pick up something when you are sick and vulnerable.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:39 PM
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:40 PM

    @Tom Burke: So, you’re cherry picking and now you’re defending the mortality rate even though reports FROM THE TIME expressed concern.

    Why am I NOT surprised you’re already defending the death rate.

    And BTW, you’re anecdotal evidence is completely irrelevant but again, you know that and are trying to muddy the waters.

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    Favourite Niamh Kenneally
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:54 PM

    @Tom Burke: Just an unnaturally high mortality rate, pure coincidence.
    Nothing to see here and those babies and little kids were grand (until they were dead) so back to fighting about fetus’.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 4:01 PM

    the ones that were sold , lived. Many of those who were unsold died.

    None of the nuns died of starvation or disease.

    The unsold babies were disposable.

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    Favourite Mick Rick Jones
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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:07 PM

    @eileen boles: Abortion and those, like Smith, who push it, have NO compassion for the babies killed by abortion, in every single abortion, NOW, not 50 years ago, every single day.

    I don’t see you condemning Smith or other pro aborts for advocating abortion of babies, on demand here.

    Why didn’t the womens families protect them, the men who got them pregnant, the State protect them ?

    Wringing your hands NOW, about Tuam 50 years ago, while todays babies are aborted to death, dumped in medical waste, or sold for body parts, in todays abortion mills, is hypocrisy.

    If the nuns then, had not taken those poor women in, who would have ? Not our State, or the likes of the anti 8th crowd now advocating similar babies be aborted to death, and dumped as “medical waste”.

    Where’s Smiths compassion for dead, aborted babies ? Can’t be seen or heard.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:14 PM

    @Mick Rick Jones: no babies are killed by abortion. Your argument would only be sustainable if real live babies, such as in Tuam, were being killed or allowed to die.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:18 PM

    @Tricia Golden:

    Abortion is so “neglectful” too. Abortion always kills the baby dead. Not much dignity either in being dumped in “medical trash”, sold for body parts, or burned to heat the hospital.

    Smith, and the pro abortion anti 8ths know this, but hypocritically stay silent, encouraging abortion of tiny babies, while jumping on the tragic Tuam anti Catholic bandwagon.

    Smith, and the pro abortion pushers, attack the 8th to push abortion here. These looney left pro aborts attack the Churches, or anyone, who dares oppose their baby abortion agenda.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:21 PM

    @Mick Rick Jones: Here we go “looney left”, “pro-abortion”

    You can’t have a debate without flinging insults and I’ve no interest in listening to you making false assertions as facts.

    We’re done here.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:30 PM

    @Tricia Golden: Abortion kills babies in the womb every single time. Pro aborts, as you are, are fine with that.

    Their aborted dead bodies are burned, sold , and dumped NOW today, in abortions mills.

    Hypocritical hand wringing about the Tuam tragedy, while simultaneously, advocating abortion of babies now, as the AAA/PBP Smith, and assorted pro abortion looney fanatics , now do, shows hypocrisy on the pro aborts part.

    The Catholic Church today, bravely, opposes abortion of babies. Brid Smith/Coppinger/Clare Daly defend thre sordid abortion industry, and attack the 8th, to establish abortion of babies on demand here.

    Using the Tuam tragedy of 50 years ago, to drive this pro abortion, anti Catholic bigotry, is cynical opportunism.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:35 PM

    @Tricia Golden: you;re never done, while innocent babies are aborted to death, and their remains disrespected, now, today.

    Voters need to boot pro aborts like Smith / Coppinger/Daly out of the Dail before they give us Britains 200,000 ABORTION DEAD PER YEAR.

    If you vote for pro abortion politicians, you get abortion, dead babies. Vote them out.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:42 PM

    @Mick Rick Jones: I will NEVER vote for a politician that rejects the right of a woman to chose.

    EVER.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:42 PM

    @Tony Daly: try studying Ultrascan of “real, live ” babies being killed as they are aborted to death. You might learn something. You can see the baby die by abortion.

    You can see the babys heart being stopped. But of course, pro aborts like you, NEVER want people to see this, they prefer censorship as we saw at the Citizen Assembly from the pro abortion USI speaker.

    The Catholic Church bravely opposes this. Brid Smith, and her foreign funded allies, promote abortion of babies, by advocating abortion on demand.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:50 PM

    @Tricia Golden: so what ? You vote for politicians who think aborting babies in their mothers womb to death, is good and desireable.

    Too bad a baby dies, to satisfy your silly “pro choice” ideology. 200,000 died by abortion in the UK NOW every year. Congratulations on that marvellous achievement.

    99% were social abortions.

    Politicians who promote this, like Smith/Coppinger./PBP-AAA/ Sinn Fein should be dumped.
    Voting for them, promotes an end result of dead, aborted babies, as happened, since 1967, in Britain.

    Study how abortion soared in other countries.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 5:58 PM

    @Tricia Golden: aborted babies bodies are dumped, burned, sold in abortion mills, in the abortion industry.

    You OK with this ? The opportunist pro abort Smith, and her ilk, seem to be — they advocate abortion, never condemn its consequences (death for babies) – while jumping on the tragic Tuam bandwagon of 50 years age, ignoring todays abortion baby slaughter and disrespect of dead babies remains.

    The Catholic Church bravely fights abortion. Smith, and her likes, defend and promote it for Ireland.

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    Favourite Mick Rick Jones
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    Mar 6th 2017, 6:04 PM

    @Tony Daly: wheres your evidence that ” real live babies in Tuam were killed or allowed to die ” ?

    We can say with absolute certainly that RIGHT NOW, babies are killed in abortion clinics.

    We can also say that the pro abortion brigade, like Brid Smith, with Dail stunts, now hypocritically, jumping on the Tuam tragic bandwagon, support abortion of babies in the womb to death, here in Ireland, on demand.

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    Favourite Mick Rick Jones
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    Mar 6th 2017, 6:08 PM

    @Tony Daly: abortion kills babies. Pick your own language to describe it, don’t dictate to others.

    Babies are killed by abortions. What did u think it was dying, a rabbit maybe?

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    Mar 6th 2017, 7:10 PM

    @Mick Rick Jones: that is where you are mistaken as a result of a severe cognitive distortion. It was a foetus.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 8:52 PM

    I don’t know how many if any were murdered or accelerated towards death. I don’t know. I just gave my view. Nobody knows and nobody will ever know. There could be all sorts of variables. But that’s not what this thread is about. This is about whether abortion is right or wrong.

    But don’t listen to me. I’m just an apologist as you say.

    Listen to the medical professionals.

    https://youtu.be/53tzMV9OmvY

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    Mar 6th 2017, 8:54 PM

    I don’t care what the Catholic league say. What’s it got to do with me?

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    Favourite Niamh Kenneally
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    Mar 7th 2017, 10:12 AM

    @Tom Burke: Tom, why didn’t you answer me on the rape issue? I asked you 4 times, you ignored me even though I answered your questions. Is it because you know it’s a quandary you can’t answer without admitting to yourself that your logic is flawed?

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    Favourite Mick Rick Jones
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    Mar 31st 2017, 7:17 PM

    @Tony Daly: neglect ? disrespect ? Tour any abortion clinic where babies are dismembered, poisoned, suctioned — you support this.

    The 2017 Catholic Church courageously opposes this barbarism, you don’t.

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