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Comment #1223452 by Dermot Ryan

Dermot Ryan May 21 5:42 PM #

The axe and the spearhead are important as is the distribution pattern of the “gun money” , the rest is little more than trash ….

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Dead treasure hunter’s loot of 899 artefacts returned to Irish museum

Dead treasure hunter’s loot of 899 artefacts returned to Irish museum

The items came to light following a tip-off from the British Museum to the National Museum of Ireland.

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  • Dermot Ryan May 21 5:42 PM #

    The axe and the spearhead are important as is the distribution pattern of the “gun money” , the rest is little more than trash ….

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    • keith irish May 21 5:46 PM #

      One persons trash and all that, delighted its all back where it belongs to be honest.

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    • Dermot Ryan May 21 6:14 PM #

      Agree with that sentiment completely Keith ;
      I was using the term “trash” in an archaeological context, of course I welcome its return and the British Museum deserve credit in this case ; one wonders how our museum didn’t spot this.
      just to qualify “trash” above. To an archaeologist coins’ most important function is not their notional value but their ability to date a layer of archaeology. The fact that these have been hacked out of the ground with no reference to location or depth etc. renders them “trash”. Context is everything in Archaeology.

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    • Preacain May 21 10:20 PM #

      youre right about the british musiem at least they were interested enough to notify someone in Ireland about the legality of purchasing them first , the same place is full of stolen goods !!!, the archaeological finds do have more than metalic value they are cultural treasures when stolen and sold on they lose the true intrinsic historical value I remember the attitude if one govt minister eho referred to work being stopped for a few owld pots when a huge find in the Tara highway slowed the earthmovers while a couple of interested people took as many out without breaking them before the road covered them, I found a pair of coins rent tokens from1605 and 1608 they have littlte monetary value though they hold a wealth of information on what was going on in the area in the 1600s

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    • Dermot Ryan May 21 11:28 PM #

      Of course you are right preachain butthe problem with these coins is that all they tell us is that they were found in Ireland ; “trash” was a wrong word but archaeologically we have other and in many ways finer examples.
      The finest artefact I have ever seen was made of wood it was a horizontal mill wheel ; one look and you knew that man has not got more intelligent he has merely improved and adapted technology. It was the first ever found anywhere ; priceless totally priceless !

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    • A Tainaiste told me that archeology “haults progress” by excavating and it’d be more use protecting the local snails.

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