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Comment #5949023 by Cheryl Mellett

Cheryl Mellett Mar 6th 2017, 1:49 PM #

Even 1 euro is too much. Having a criminal record is out of the question in my opinion for this. Out of curiosity has anyone ever been charged?

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'Get out of our lives': Call for abortion penalty to be reduced to €1 fine

'Get out of our lives': Call for abortion penalty to be reduced to €1 fine

A new bill aimed at decriminalising abortion in Ireland will be debated by the Dáil tomorrow.

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    Favourite GameOverMan
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    Mar 6th 2017, 2:00 PM

    The idea of any kind of fine is barbaric… have these woman not been through enough?

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    Favourite ed w
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    Mar 6th 2017, 2:05 PM

    Just what I was thinking why leave the woman with a criminal record. Ridiculous.

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    Favourite meatyslaps
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    Mar 6th 2017, 2:07 PM

    @Cheryl Mellett: I don’t think anyone has been charged, and it’s why Brid Smith is trying to change the punishment. It’s a way of highlighting how ridiculous the whole thing is.

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    Favourite Dave O Keeffe
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    Mar 6th 2017, 2:08 PM

    I think it’s due to the 8th amendment still being in place. The illegality can’t be removed until the amendment is. That’s just a guess though

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    Favourite Andrew Flood
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    Mar 6th 2017, 2:13 PM

    It’s a clever way of making the point that defending the 8th amendment is accepting women being jailed for 14 years, not just having an opinion over what other people can do and not do.

    Women haven’t been charged down south recently but there have been 2 (or is it 3) prosecutions under the very similar law in the north. All it might take for a case down here would be a busy body (in one of the northern cases I believe a flat mate informed on the women concerned)

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    Favourite Rosie Murray
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    Mar 6th 2017, 2:37 PM

    €1? Wow the price of a life gets cheaper every day

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    Favourite Fred Jensen
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    Mar 6th 2017, 2:37 PM

    @Cheryl Mellett:

    If its agianst the law, then a crimnal record is definitely appropriate.

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    Favourite Tony Daly
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:21 PM

    @Rosie Murray: you can get for more for a real baby on the baby black market. That is one of the markets which was developed by the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland

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    Favourite Niamh Kenneally
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:25 PM

    @Elle Belle: Maybe it’s not as moral as sticking unwed mothers in special houses and then selling their babies but it’s a step.

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    Favourite Tricia Golden
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:45 PM

    @Elle Belle: You believe it’s wrong.

    A large number of people believe that decision should be left with the person that’s pregnant.

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    Favourite Tony Daly
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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:54 PM

    @Elle Belle: you want your opinion backed up by law and given the force of Constitutional imperative.

    Tricia Golden simply wants that women of child bearing age are free to decide for themselves.

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:55 PM

    @Elle Belle: You see, I never said “it’s right”. I said we should leave the decision as to whether it’s “right or wrong” up to the person pregnant.

    Are you really that incapable of comprehending that?

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    Mar 6th 2017, 3:59 PM

    @Elle Belle: No – did I once use the argument that because Tuam happened that abortion is great? No, and I’ll ask you for the 2nd time to stop telling others what they feel or think and stop trying to put words in everyone’s mouth.
    I used your own point about the moral path of this country against you, using Tuam as an example. That’s exactly what happened there.

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    Favourite Tony Daly
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    Mar 6th 2017, 4:08 PM

    Elle Belle is not doing fact, accuracy or reason.

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    Favourite Seán Carroll
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    Mar 6th 2017, 7:36 PM

    The one euro fine exists in the bill as two previous versions which took away all punishment were deemed unconstitutional so the one euro fine is the lowest penalty that can be put forward in the dail until the 8th is removed

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    Favourite Tony Daly
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    Mar 6th 2017, 7:46 PM

    @Seán Carroll: then it is the Constitution which is the problem.

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    Favourite Tony Daly
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    Mar 6th 2017, 8:18 PM

    @Tony Daly: so we need a Referendum on the Eight Amendment.

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