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Comment #4915486 by Eamonn

Eamonn Mar 25th 2016, 3:30 PM #

Glad this happened. Redmond was the kind of sleeveen politician the likes of Enda Kenny would remind you off today. He has no place when we remember the sacrifice of our Republican heroes.

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Activists draw over John Redmond's face on controversial College Green banner

Activists draw over John Redmond's face on controversial College Green banner

Irish language group Misneach said it defaced the banner in a protest against “revisionist propaganda”.

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    Favourite Conor Jennings
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    Mar 25th 2016, 3:36 PM

    He did more for Ireland than you ever will eamon

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    Favourite Aoife
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    Mar 25th 2016, 3:42 PM

    Well if you consider sending over 35000 people to fight for England and accomplishment that is. Personally I’ve done very little directly for Ireland but it’s safe to say I haven’t sent tens of thousands to their deaths.

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    Favourite Eamonn
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    Mar 25th 2016, 3:52 PM

    Conor I could literally do nothing and I would have done more for Ireland than Redmond ever did. I certainly wouldn’t have the blood of 35,000 Irishmen on my hands.

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    Favourite Rosa Parks
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    Mar 25th 2016, 4:22 PM

    Conor Redmond didn’t really acheive anything apart from reuniting the Parnellite and Anti Parnellite Home Rule parties.

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    Favourite Darren Tully
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    Mar 25th 2016, 4:39 PM

    @Eamonn. Redmond negotiated for and secured the Wyndham Land Act 1903 which made it easier for tenants to buy land while making it harder for Landlord to refuse or block the sale of land. This act made Ireland the easiest place for a tenant to buy their land compared to England Scotland and Wales. He also played a part in the land Purchase Act1909 which allowed the land commission to order the compulsory purchase of tenanted land from Landlords.

    Basically Redmond helped to hammer in the final nails in the coffin of the Land Lord system. So please do explain to me how you doing nothing have been bigger benefit to Irish society?

    And before you go off on the blood of 35,000 as if he’s solely responsible look at the context. Irish public opinion was in favour of going off to fight the Germans for attacking Neutral Catholic Belgium; the priests were even telling men to enlist at mass, and the Unionists were hoping by sending Northern Regiments over to fight Home Rule would be stopped for good. Though I suspect you’ll shout “think of the blood of the 35000″ today and then turn around in November on an article about remembrance day and call them all traitors.

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    Favourite Charlie Melia
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    Mar 25th 2016, 5:38 PM

    Its amazing how a few unwanted scraps from the British governments table is considered a major achievement. Redmond is best consigned to the dustbin of history rather than the commemoration of history.

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    Mar 25th 2016, 6:23 PM

    The Land Act was probably the greatest achievement towards independence. Remember Charlie, it was the threat of Conscription that made men in their thousands join the IRA, not some collective mass patriotism post Easter 1916.

    The historical revisionism that is going on at the moment is just ridiculous.

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    Favourite Darren Tully
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    Mar 25th 2016, 6:27 PM

    It meant something to the people who worked those rented farms for generations and wanted to own them. The effects of the Landlord system were still being felt in rural Ireland well into the later end of the 20th century. It’s more justifiable to call dismissing the outcomes of the land wars as irrelevant table scraps a revisionist narrative than it is to say about hanging that banner

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    Favourite Martin Fahy
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    Mar 25th 2016, 9:55 PM

    Selective historical revision there Aoife !!
    Completely ignoring the fact that public opinion in Ireland was massively in favour of sending our people off to France. Many tens of thousands of Irish fought for separately for USA, Canada, Australia, NZ and others, do you blame Redmond for this as well ?
    I don’t believe putting Redmond or the others on the poster was a good idea in the context of 1916 but this idea he was solely to blame for sending 35,000 people off to war is blatantly untrue.
    There was a whole host of factors behind the reason so many went to war including economic reasons and the promise of a good wage, support from the Church and priests and many organisations and groups urging people to go, others went because of the fear Britain and by default Ireland would come under German rule, and other young men unfortunately we’re under the impression it would be a glamorous life.
    John Redmond certainly was no saint and played his part but let’s stop this selective revision of history to suit the agenda of those of certain political persuasions.

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    Favourite An_Beal_Bocht
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    Mar 26th 2016, 1:37 AM

    Darren, Redmond voted to reduce the funding available to the tenants for those land acts to appease Birrell in a traitorous act of sleevenism. This had a direct affect on the efficacy of those land acts and it ripped the Irish party apart. Redmond cared more about protecting his own position of power in government. Again he used the Catholic church to attack MP O’Brien in his efforts to conciliate with the unionists when O’Brien was trying to develop an united all ireland front and instead Redmond used the decidedly dodgy AOH Catholic body to bully oBrian in his efforts. The AOH was the Belfast Catholic equivalent of the bigoted Orange lodge.

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