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Comment #5613201 by LITTLEONE

LITTLEONE Nov 9th 2016, 1:39 PM #

Because you had a Clinton in the other corner. All that was wrong with America. The clinton’s.

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    Favourite Billy Mooney
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    Nov 9th 2016, 1:56 PM

    Sanders could have beaten them both had he run as an Independent. But unfortunately he sold out and missed an historic opportunity to build a mass movement of the working class to take on the ruling elites and the billionaire class. The path of lesser evilism has a long track record of failure for the majority.

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    Favourite michael collins
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    Nov 9th 2016, 1:59 PM

    @Billy Mooney: hilarious

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    Favourite αησηвℓιтz
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    Nov 9th 2016, 2:16 PM

    Sanders wouldn’t have had a chance as an independent. Clearly you don’t understand how the presidential voting system works.

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    Favourite For Connolly
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    Nov 9th 2016, 2:21 PM

    @Billy Mooney: Sorry Billy, but most likely Sanders running as an independent would have merely split the democrat vote and picked up a minority of the middle. Today we would have been reading about how Bernie lost the election for Hilary (even though it would not have been the case, and how the american people rejected his brand of Socialism.

    There was always a risk of the Democrats losing this election if they ran a scandal laden, deeply flawed clinton. They gambled, they lost. They needed a Sanders/Warren ticket, they went with the political establishment instead that America has now firmly rejected.

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    Favourite Dain Bramage
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    Nov 9th 2016, 2:33 PM

    The AAA clowns don’t know how anything works.

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    Favourite Billy Mooney
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    Nov 9th 2016, 2:52 PM

    @αησηвℓιтz: And Trump didn’t have a chance of firstly winning the Republican nomination and then of winning the presidency but he did. The old certainties no longer apply as you clearly don’t understand..

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    Favourite Dain Bramage
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    Nov 9th 2016, 2:54 PM

    Is that out of touch elitist cringe merchant Ruth Coppinger going to eat her words now? Anti austerity my hole.

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    Favourite Billy Mooney
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    Nov 9th 2016, 2:57 PM

    And nor would Sanders winning have been the most important objective as he would of course be hamstrung by a Republican and Democrat controlled House and Senate. The key task it to a build mass movement and a political party of the working class from the ground up to challenge the capitalist oligarchy. And the capitalist establishment will fight tooth and nail to prevent this as they understand perfectly that this is the only force that can defeat them.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 2:57 PM

    @Dain Bramage: What are you dribbling about?

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:03 PM

    @Billy Mooney:

    People are sick of people like you with your fake worker & people support talking only about austerity while giving away the ground from under them with your support for multiculturalism and mass-immigration the main policy that exploits and genocides the Irish people as laid out by the U.N charter on genocide. Shame on AAA and PBP – the OpenBorder Extremists.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:15 PM

    @stevenocarroll: They can’t be too sick as the AAA/PBP is up 3 points to 9% in the latest poll.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-aaapbp-3054477-Oct2016/

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:17 PM

    @Billy Mooney: it really must sicken you to see the working class vote for the right :D

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:22 PM

    @michael collins: It must sicken you to be in coalition with FF as less and less of the working class are voting for FG or FF:)

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:24 PM

    @Billy Mooney: with the wave of right wing thinking sweeping the planet its not hard to see why you are so upset :D

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:27 PM

    @Billy Mooney: not half a sickened as the AAA must be seeing as the working class always rejects them, you do a fine job at ensuring their irrelevance :D

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:28 PM

    @michael collins: By “right wing thinking” do you mean the seeds of fascism? Because we should all be upset about that or are you secretly excited by the prospect in your dark little heart?

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:30 PM

    @Billy Mooney: all the rejection is bound to have you numpties livid :D

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:36 PM

    So even you draw the line at fascism mickey? Good to know.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:37 PM

    @Billy Mooney: have you looked at that facist state Venezuela recently, a lefties wet dream

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    Favourite Dain Bramage
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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:38 PM

    The below poster summed it up well. Fake people and worker supporters. You and your fellow AAA muppets are just in it for yourselves. Nothing but a bunch of Brussels lick arses.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 3:41 PM

    Billy. Wasn’t Sanders bullied and pushed off a stage once by a couple of rabid female BLM protesters a few months back? What makes you think he could hold the position of POTUS

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    Nov 9th 2016, 4:10 PM

    @Billy Mooney:

    AAA/PBP are enemy of the people:
    Ireland has historically lagged trends in the US and UK by 15 years. With the internet you will see an Irish party that is pro ethnic Irish and pro Irish resources for our own people within the next few years.

    Always look at the long term Billy, your 3 points may even increase in next few years as people recognise main parties for what they are, however give it about 6 years and they will look past your false promise while you give away their birthright, there is no fight against austerity without making your ethnicity or nation safe and secure and its resources safe.

    Multiculturalism has been used as screen for exploitation of ordinary people while it also wrecks the 3rd world, leaving the very poor wretched, while drawing the criminal or more capable to leave their countries and not work to make them better – you Billy are unwittingly working for the coporations, an enemy of the people.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 4:24 PM

    @Crimson: I don’t know. Was he? What makes you think that would disqualify him from being President? What disqulaified him in reality was that he sold out a magnificent movement of the working class when he endorsed Clintom

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    Nov 9th 2016, 4:26 PM

    @stevenocarroll: You’re a xenophobic loon and thankfully your politics has never gained any traction in Ireland. Maybe head over to France and have a chat with the Le Pens?

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    Nov 9th 2016, 4:40 PM

    You think Bernie would stand a chance after what was said about Clinton? I guarantee you, the red states would have seen him as something certain Americans think are worse than crooks: communists. That’s what they would have said.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 5:04 PM

    @Billy Mooney:

    “Xenophobic” means to have an irrational fear of the foreigner.

    Now explain how I have an “irrational” fear of the foreigner. Were Irish people who fought to keep their territory for their children and descendants, for millenia including Connolly and the men and women of 1916, were they “Xenophobic”?

    Are Tbetans who want Tibet for Tibetans, are they Xenophobic? Are Palestinians who want Palestine for the Palestinians, are they xenophobic? Are any ethnic people who want to protect what their ancestors bequethed to them, are they all xenophobic? I think you are a person filled with hate, you try to camouflage that hate by presenting as humanitarian, while you vent that hate in a hatred for white ethnic peoples.

    My kind of politics is what Irish and every single people in the world, each one with a unique and specific ancestral and cultural heritage, passed on from generation to generation, hence why ethnicities exist, they all fought to defend the territory and ethnicity that their forefathers and ancestors handed on to them, same as the people in 1916, who fought to protect our resources and our ancestral heritage from a multicultural British imperial globalist tyranny that tried to exploit us, which has been replaced by a new multicultural imperial globalist tyranny, the ones you now serve and work to enslave the Irish people and all the worlds people, the globalist super-rich who are your masters.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 5:45 PM

    So following your logic then, America belongs to the ethnic Americans then such as the Sioux, Cherokee etc. The nations resources belong to these tribes and not to the descendants of immigrants? When would you plan to start the deportation of all the non natives from the U.S? Including Trump of course.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 5:51 PM

    And will we need a DNA test in order to prove our ethnicity to be allowed stay in Ireland? What about those with Norwegian or Norman ancestry? Do we have to send them back “home”?

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    Nov 9th 2016, 5:53 PM

    I have German Shepherd. Can he stay?

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    Nov 9th 2016, 6:10 PM

    @Billy Mooney:

    Seeing as white Europeans, the Solutreans got to America first and were butchered by the Indian-Americans, then no, Billy, America is actually European. However more territory should be given to the Indian-americans. People Europeans and Chinese went to America thinking it a “New World”, they did not go to countries that they knew were sovereign settled territory like China, Mongolia, Turkey, Poland etc, they did not think of America as being settled and sovereign in that way, they thought it was open un-owned country, but also the Indian-Americans themselves allied to different European nations to get the better of other Indian-Americans.

    Also Billy, the United States is a European made state, it is not the same entity as America. The United States was founded, built and fought for by Euro-Americans, it gave the world the model of constitutional freedoms that the rest of the world emulates or aspires to. So without the European you would not have the abolishment of slavery, the rights of workers etc, (saudi Arabia only officially abolished slavery in 1968), it was the British navy who pursued the end of slavery.

    So U.S is european as is America from the Solutreans, we have a right to continue to allow a certain amount of Europeans to go there. As stated more territory should be given to Indian-Americans, but the right of the European to the continent preceeds them.

    But even if it didn’t it is a special case and does not disavow 200million people of the right to be there, partly because of the arguments above. But also because the Indian-Americans, had the right to fight the Europeans to defend their territory, we Irish also have that right and are being denied it.

    And that has no bearing on Irish people having the right to their own territory just because 1 race who slaughtered Europeans were conquered in turn by Europeans? Why does any ethnicity have to open up their ancestral sovereign territory therefore for ethnicities not involved in that american history? We don’t. And remember every ethnicity has historically had the right to bear arms and resist and fight to defend themselves, if you want to compare things, then it is the right of every ethnic Irishman to take up arms to stop immigration, it is no different. Our resources and ancestral heritage is being exploited and our ethnic survival is at stake.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 6:22 PM

    @Billy Mooney:

    Irish people are already related to other western European peoples. We are from the same family tree as them. It is analogous to saying, we are from same ancestral Western European family composed of all different family members, so there are degrees of relatedness. The fact of the matter is, western Europeans are most related, more so than East Europeans, who in turn are more related to each other ancestrally and culturally.

    So when you talk about Normans and Norwegians (which are the same people, because the Normans were originally from scandinavia) you are talking about tribes that we Irish as Gaels, Celts and pre-Celts were already neighbours of for different periods of time on the European continent, in fact for example the Brigantes Celtic tribe was to be found both in Britain and Ireland at one stage.

    But also you forget even at these European inter-tribal levels of rivalry which every race had amongst tribes of their own race, the people on this island had the right and did assert their right to resist and fight the arrival of each wave of immigrants regardless of the degree of relatedness.
    This happened in all races.

    It was only with the British imperial multcultural tyranny that controlled many different ethnicities and races, and tried to use them all by emotionally telling them that they were only of status or worth as part of an empire with shiny trinkets and badges, that they were able to exploit the different tribes and peoples.

    That very same mechanism of appealing to peoples sense of status is what is at work here with an exact same imperial tyranny, called globalism which again wishes to break all bonds that people have, such as the bonds of family, the bonds of tribe, the bonds of ethnicity and race, so that it can open up people, expose them, alienate and weaken them and thus harvest their ancestral birthright and the resources of the land their ancestors carefully handed down to them. You Billy, are unwittingly supporting the aims of the globalist exploitation tyranny.

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    Nov 9th 2016, 7:48 PM

    https://youtu.be/6BnbwUT7lBg Caved in to a couple of racist BLM members and showed his weakness , makes you think that when the pressure is on in the world stage, what he would cave in to then Billy?

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    Nov 9th 2016, 9:33 PM

    So O Carroll. It was o.k for the Normans and Vikings to invade and slaughter all around Ireland but apparently not the British? Are we not all Western European ancestral cousins after all? Tell us more please. It’s interesting to peek inside the lunacy of your mind.

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