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Comment #1648820 by Derek Cullen

Derek Cullen Oct 1st 2013, 9:53 AM #

I agree that the Séanad / Dáil needs to be reformed completely but to just abolish the Séanad without our country’s leader even willing to take part in a debate on why it should be abolished is what is making me wonder, well why should I vote for something when the man leading the party who are looking for this isn’t willing to show me a live argument against the No vote.

I would also be very, very foolish to think that Richard Bruton will be presenting a cheque in 2017 to the value of €20m to prove the savings if the Séanad was abolished!

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    Favourite Sarah Murphy
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    Oct 1st 2013, 10:09 AM

    Especially when the government won’t even be using cheques from next September….

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    Favourite james r
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    Oct 1st 2013, 10:11 AM

    Voting a big nooo !! This government have proven to be bare faced liars !! With 1 agenda look after the rich multimillionaires bond holders and banking buddies . The rest of us taxed to oblivion

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    Favourite Annette Temple
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    Oct 1st 2013, 10:15 AM

    Have you ever attended a debate Dermot? Some people can debate black is white in an excellent way and therefore win a debate based on their articulacy. I have no doubt that Micheál Martin would win ANY debate against Enda Kenny as Martin is a great debater (one could say a mass debater) but it wouldn’t mean that he was right. ;)

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    Favourite Annette Temple
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    Oct 1st 2013, 10:16 AM

    Sorry *Derek.

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    Favourite Dave Harris
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    Oct 1st 2013, 10:40 AM

    Yeah but Annette, being a politician is about debating – especially a leader – and if a leader cannot convince anyone of his arguments for something then he is a poor leader.

    If it were not for the party whip system Kenny would be nowhere.

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    Favourite Annette Temple
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    Oct 1st 2013, 10:51 AM

    I’m no fan of Enda Kenny… I was simply pointing out why he wasn’t going to take part in a televised debate. A country of our size has absolutely no need for a second house. Especially one with unelected and failed politicians who are so far out of touch with reality that they’re laughable. They serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever. So vote no if you like – that is your democratic right…but don’t do it to ‘spite’ the current government.

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    Favourite Tony Slap
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    Oct 1st 2013, 11:19 AM

    Thank you James for proving my point with regard to kids voting.

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    Favourite Ken Donegan
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    Oct 1st 2013, 11:44 AM

    @ Tomy have you any idea what this referendum is actually about or are you just trowing random comments and making out you are clever when in fact you are a misinformed on the whole issue ?

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    Favourite Jack Matthynssens
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    Oct 1st 2013, 11:57 AM

    I think we know two different Micheal Martin’s because the one I know doesn’t seem a great debater. 10 sentences where one will do!

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    Favourite Derek Cullen
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    Oct 1st 2013, 3:51 PM

    @Annette, yes I have, many of them Annette. You’re right, some people can but does that give him reason to decline yet another one. Its not just this issue he’s refused to debate.

    He should expect to be able to debate with opposition seeing as he is the leader of a European State.

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    Favourite Sandra McShane
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    Oct 1st 2013, 4:05 PM

    But he just happens to be in this case.

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    Favourite Gráinne Duggan
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    Oct 1st 2013, 9:26 PM

    Annette, he’s a politician. He’s the leader of the country. It’s his JOB to debate and to defend his decisions. If he can’t, he shouldn’t be accepting the very generous salary he gets.
    I was going to vote no anyway, because the idea of handing over total power to any government frightens me, but the fact that Kenny doesn’t even have the guts to stand up and stand over his own idea makes me even more concerned.

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    Favourite Emmett O'Reilly
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    Oct 1st 2013, 9:56 PM

    Tony, no luck in the search for a life, I see.

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