Great comment. Says it all.

well said alison.. its a joke

Comment of the Week for me.

excellent allison

@Alison Finn

It’s true, honestly …. it’s not April 1st. but it is ‘fools day’!

My guess is that only a small group will gather today. You have to ask why the Quinn’s have included public demonstrations in their tactics and I suppose behind it all they crave respectability so they see the need to be treated as martyrs rather than vulgar nouveau riche who plundered the Company for the rush of adrenaline to which they had become addicted.

Free cake to everyone.

Had to laugh at the poster – “Natural justice for the citizens of Ireland”!

Presumably “citizens” includes the hard-pressed taxpayer?

A rally set up for people who live in the real world. Not the trolls who sit behind their keyboards and inhabit this website.

John your comment about real people living in the real world. Would that include child molesters.

I never did see a leech with a brass neck… until I became aware of the Quinns.

Have to agree with you mattoid, they “DEMAND NATURAL JUSTICE”, as opposed to what? The real legal kind of justice that puts thieving sh1ts who deliberately ignore the law of the land and gives the two fingers to judges behind bars.

Mr Quinn deserves respect for standing up to the Bankers.

@ Petr Tarazov

Good one!

While I appreciate that the Quinn empire created a considerable amount of jobs in the Cavan and Fermanagh region, this is quite literally NOT a get out of jail free card! Sean Quinn
gambled and lost, so now must face the consequences. He would have happily took the reward if things went the other way…rant over, I’m off to cheer myself up on a big slice of overpriced wedding cake… Feel free to join me!

You mean Westmeath ?

Westmeath ?

Westmeath ?

Put a lid on it, McNamees.

Lies

Why do you assume that the state ibrc is honest and forthright? State bodies have a bad record.

They can hand out the cake to them if there’s any of it left.

The Quinns were already under investigation by the FR before the dealings with Anglo were revealed.

It would have served us better if the ”FR” investigated Anglo, BOI, AIB, PTSB and the likes Mattoid.
By the way, where is Pat Neary these days Mattoid??

I agree Harry, it would have been much better for all of us if the then financial regulator had regulated. Unfortunately Charlie Mac was pursuing an aggressive policy of financial deregulation at the time, and Paddy Neary appears to have been only too willing to fall into line with this.

If I had my way they would all be investigated and prosecuted where appropriate. Just because taxpayers are happy that Quinn’s activities have been exposed for all to see doesn’t mean that we are supporters of Anglo or anyone else – the whole corrupt shower of wasters should face justice, and I for one was more than happy to see Seanie Fitz at the front of a courtroom this week.

Just because they’re not all in jail yet doesn’t exonerate Quinn in any way or make him any less responsible for his own actions!

You may be right Mattoid.

However Quinn was only one client of one of our many criminal banks.

Why is IBRC , RTE and communicorp (one of Anglo’s largest creditors) putting all the emphasis on the Quinn.
Can their stories be trusted?

Tom this gambler was shown accounts that showed anglo in a very healthy position ,it turns out that they accounts could not be further from the truth ,the company that supplied these accounts are still being handed state contracts and not being investigated WHY.

Dermot, that is such a weak point. Irbc is being wound down and the people brought in to run it have a job to do. That job is to get back as much of the assets as possible on behalf of the tax payer. I don’t believe that shite about being shown false accounts. He was shrewd man but greed caught him out, nothing else.

well said tom he gambled and lost even if he was shown false accounts it is one shower of greedy corrupt crooks ripping off another and we pick up the bill and end up paying As for his providing jobs for the little man he didn’t do it for the little man he did it to enrich himself he needed the little man to make himself richer

And the Insurance levy we are facing.

I’ve genuinely heard there is going to be people there with buckets, doing a collection for the Quinn family… It’s so messed up.

How much did they spend on a wedding cake again?

Just a totally normal family – yeah right, greedy swine.

Let them eat cavan!

FINBAR – say that to their faces – not from behind your little computer. The same for anyone else condemning the Quinns.

The real culprits = Fianna Fail who guaranteed the banks.

@Mark Dalt

Would you go way out of that! The quinns’ like many others went overboard. What they did was to to climb back into the boat walking, crawling over others to save themselves! They are greedy, greedy little people. Why couldn’t they be happy with what they had. They were millionaires as it was. They had more money than they could ever spend in their lifetime.

Greed is the same as stealing. Bad, bad bad thing.

I lost money betting on a horse in the galway races. It was as much of a gamble as Sean Quinns CFD gamble on Anglo share prices. Can we have a march of support for me to get my 10 euro back from Paddy Power.

A bit more of a sophisticated gamble then sticking €10 eur on a horse, but none the less, a gamble on something happening / not happening.

He built up the stake through various channels, not just a single one, thereby not giving the bank or regulator the ability (however limited and stupid those people and their powers were) to monitor such a build up. Even that alone shows he knew what he was doing was wrong. And yet the fools who support him can’t see beyond the jobs he initially made but then lost due to his own illegal, criminal actions.

I agree with you Simon about the supposed injustices that Quinn MAY feel, but Seanie and his gang (with the exception of Drumm) have been made bankrupt, have been brought to court, and have been hit with the highest possible charges there are on the statute books at the moment. They mightn’t be getting judged in a timeframe that most people want, but they are in the system that we have to deal with it and for whatever you might think of it, they are fully cooperating. Quinn is the complete opposite. Hiding money offshore, family members absconding to another state, computers and documents being destroyed, lying, the list goes on and on. I have no sympathy in any way for any of them, and the fool’s that support them need to wake up and open their eyes to his criminality.

Hahaha. Love it

And probably giving out tea and wedding cake at the end of the rally.
It’s a nordie thing
Rendition taxi for Peter darragh ?

If they want to march well then march on the Dail for the people if this Country who have been asked to ship the bad debts and gambling dockets of stupid businessmen.

Typical family business – they made it big and fair play to them for that. But their inadequacies were severely exposed when it came to mixing it in a high stakes game.

Are the gamblers not the Anglo bondholders ? They lost the bet but our government stepped in unnecessarily and decided to pay them back with our money. There was no need to bail out Anglo, it should have collapsed. Instead it cost us €52 Billion and all we can do is demonise Quinn over 1% of the bail out cost. The Government must be sitting back laughing at the the way Quinn is being blamed for the Anglo bailout while they and the Anglo bosses hardly feature at all. I suppose it makes an easy story to focus on the Quinns, Sheep mentality is right …..

@ Dec Kavanagh,

Get real! Quinn is no different to a gambler that goes into Merrion Square and other gambling houses. People know when they go in that door, bank, gambling house etc. they are taking their chances. Tough! he lost! Some lose honestly, and are fooled but Quinn lost, dishonestly, now live with it. Greed is a terrible thing. To accept that one was greedy and wrong, very wrong, is hard.

Sheila Byrne .. If the Casino goes bust would you be happy if the Government used your money to bail them out??? Obviously not. Quinn borrowed from a commercial bank not the taxpayer or the government. If the Government decides it wants to protect the faceless european bond holders investment/gambling losses by using our money that’s their problem.

@Dec Kavanagh

We’re talking about greedy banks here and greedy individuals like the quinns’. No, I don’t like the way FFail bail out the banks, the majority of posts here disagree with it also. quinn knew he was doing wrong at the time, knew there was no way of paying that kind of money back. Take, take, take, that was his attitude and didn’t give 2 sh1ts at the time and still doesn’t.

In his eyes, he’ll never be wrong because he’ll always blame someone else, it’s anglo’s fault also. They’re all to blame, none of them no less than the other!

@Dec
Quinn did not buy shares, he bought CFD’s which are very different. By buying through offshore companies he concealed his level of exposure to Anglo, and even they were shocked when they learned the true situation. The selling of shares to the maple 10, whilst quite possibly illegal (the courts will decide on that in due course) was a move pretty much forced on Anglo as a last ditch attempt to save both themselves and Quinn after his massive recklessness.
I’m no fan of Anglo either, there’s corruption all round, but Quinn is far, far from being an innocent victim in all this.
More about CFD’s here:
http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/08/01/sean-quinn-didnt-invest-in-anglo-irish-bank-he-bet-on-it/

Mismanagement?
more like
Miss-regulation.

Come out face to face and try mouthing off like that. Why don’t you try say that to the protestors faces Finbar ?

There’s a lot of keyboard warriors on here, lol.

The real culprit is Fianna Fail’s Brian Lenihan for guaranteeing the Banks – not Mr. Quinn.

@Mark Dalt,

Were you at the march with the Priory Hall families yesterday? Do you believe that they have the right to be living in a safe, warm home (which it was far from) that they paid for and are still paying for? McFeely, DCC, Safety, architects etc. are exactly the same as the quinns. Greedy, greedy horrible little people that deserve to have a hard, cold lonely life ahead of them!

We’re not keyboard warriors Mark, we’re honest people with a heart and a conscious. Instead of assuming we’re all keyboard warriors on here, take a look, a real look at what the quinns’ have been doing, not yesterday or last month, but for a long time, accumilating a mountain full of greed.

@Mark
Perhaps you’d like to stand up in front of a crowd of thousands of livid taxpayers and explain why Quinn was justified in illegally concealing his assets, thereby leaving them to foot the bill for his huge failed gamble?

As for your comments about keyboard warriors on this and the other thread, to quote from Monty Python:
“Before you start going on about the Romans Brian, just remember, you are one of them…”

This says it all: http://bigginsblog.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/sean-quinn-the-bbc-spells-it-out/

Judge Elizabeth Dunne summarised this key argument in her contempt judgement: “Instead of trying to repay the admitted debt due, the Quinn family and in particular the respondents have taken every step possible to make it as difficult as can be to recover any amount due.

“They have engaged in a complex, complicated and, no doubt, costly, series of steps designed to put the assets of the IPG (International Property Group) beyond the reach of Anglo, in a blatant, dishonest and deceitful manner.

“They have consciously misled courts here and elsewhere. They have sought to deprive Anglo of the assets which would go some way to Facts discharging an admitted indebtedness.

“The behaviour of the respondents outlined in evidence before me is as far as removed from the concept of honour and respectability as it is possible to be.”

@biggins 31

Did you not hear, they’re also collecting today to put a sculpture of the quinn family in the middle of the town. Writing underneath it, “The family that did so much for Ireland” – ‘destroyed the future of our children for the next 30 years’

No different to the phallic symbol aherne but in the middle of O’Connell Street. As if we’d forget him in a hurry!

No Stephen. The reason is because Brian Lenihan guaranteed the banks. Nothing to do with Mr. Quinn. TBH, I would vote for him myself because he isn’t the culprit – Fianna Fail and Fine Gael are the main culprits.

@Mark

I beg to differ Mark, he is, amongst the banks and many others that were greedy buying up properties all over the place. Builders, building estates in the arsehole of no where, no infrastructure, councilors that gave planning, knowing that there would be NO infrastucture, no time soon. I wish you could see what I see, open your eyes, quinn doesn’t care what your opinion is and doesn’t if you can’t pay your morg. this month.

quinn and his family will always be ok because they have assets that neither you, I or the authorities know about.

I would love to understand the thought process that these people who support Quinn, and his crooked family. What is it that pulls thousands of them out of their homes and onto the streets? He has destroyed this country . Some brass neck alright !

The same could be said about Charles Haughty and Ahern (and more!) – a lot of people respected them – till the truth came out about them and/or their antics too was exposed.

All the crooks are the same – fool the people into seeing one thing while they in quiet hidden action, are up to another.
I do NOT blame the people for being earlier fooled – they were only going with what they saw and/or told at the time – but when the exposure comes of their antics – only the still blind and deluded follow them and swallow the corrupt antics still!

The blind followers are either stupid, stubborn or have their own agenda for still following/supporting the corrupt!

Er … hang on there. There’s a bit of a difference between thinking the crowd are a bunch of idiots supporting a family of crooks, and thinking it’s a good idea to kill some of them.

NO!

I think you’ll find more prosecutions down the line, but financial crime is notoriously complex and time consuming to investigate.

I’d rather see the authorities take however long it takes to fully investigate and prepare a case (with all the i’s dotted and t’s crossed) that has a good chance of the correct outcome instead of rushing prematurely into a case that may fall at the first hurdle due to unforeseen legal complications etc..

@John Scully

You’re kidding. Do you honestly believe that it’s nothing to do with people like the quinns’. Wake up John, will you please. quinn is one of many that helped the banks bring down our country. A country that my parents and grandparents built up for me, you and my children. In ten years, we f . . ked up all the work and hard living they put into their lives for us! We’ve also f . . ked up our children’s lives and their children.

Believe me, there are people in this world that are born without a conscious and some of them do live in Ireland!

You’re a clown. The reason the country is where it is.

I hope it rains down on them for all eternity.
There are those of us who go out and work our butts off, invest in our education, our future, clear our debts, and are hated by the very people we serve.
There are those who make stupid investments, land themselves in enough debt to literally privatise a bank, and they get marches of support?
Nurses, doctors, paramedics, firemen, should have access to lists of anyone who attends these silly, misguided marches, and refuse to have anything to do with these ignorant louts.

Well , with the advertising RTE , the GAA , and the Catholic church are giving them ,of course you are going to get the non thinking easily fooled , swallow anything , idiots attending . I hope Anti Quinn people will be there too to oppose this outrageous insulting ”rally” .

sure sheep will be sheep

Looks like you’re going for the red thumb record there Dec ;-)

Hope it pisses rain on the lot of them

@Dec Kavanagh

“Referring to the alleged €100,000 spent on a wedding cake for the nuptials of Seán Quinn’s daughter Ciara back in 2007 Martin said that while she agreed it was a “disgusting amount of money”, Quinn was entitled to pamper his daughter in whatever way he saw fit.”

You’ve got to be kidding. Quinn is no different to the bankers that gave him credit. His family knew what they were doing. He shows the same arrogance, although somewhat more than most of them. Not many of them have had as much arrongance as to march down their local streets pleading innocence to the many locals that he gave little jobs to the little people. I will never understand ‘little’ people that have been brainwashed by individuals like Quinn. With all the proof, video recordings, tapes etc. these people still support him. The mind boggles. I hope he’s eaten alive today. Many of them deserve to be tarred and feathered, to start with then taken out of the mansion that they built on others money.

Neither his daughter or himself would ever think of putting the EUR100,000 on something more deserving?

I assume you’re being sarcastic…

Mattoid,

I got over 1,000 red thumbs before! :)

Wow Petr! What was that for? Did you suggest that they assassinate Bosco or something? ;-)

I (jokingly!) implied that the Irish guy who kicked an Australian politician while the latter was doing a piece to camera did a job thing. Nothing more than that!

Here it is. :)