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Column: Secrecy around TDs’ expenses is typical of Irish political culture

Yes, expenses need reform – but we need a larger conversation too, writes Sarah O’Neill.

Sarah O'Neill

A REPORT PUBLISHED by the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) recently recommended that the allowances afforded to TDs and Senators should be determined by an independent body. It found that it was no longer appropriate for politicians to decide their own level of expenses and that going forward, all expenses incurred should be fully vouched and receipted.

Our current system of attributing TDs’ and Senators’ expenses is wholly non-transparent and easily abused. Although the total amount allocated to each member is published annually, the exact breakdown of how and why it was spent is never released. Allowances are paid up-front to members each month, rather than reimbursed after the event – and Oireachtas members can choose whether to subject themselves to audit.

However, and although the report addresses a clear need for a complete overhaul of the current payments regime, we must not fall victim to bandwagon, populist politics. The system of allowances we have now clearly needs to be reviewed – but it is not going to radically affect the efficiency of the Irish political system.

Unaccountable

Within the current system, Oireachtas members receive a higher Public Representation Allowance in return for making receipts available for audit. Even so, nearly one-third of TDs and twice that of Senators choose to opt out of this option, making their expenses up to the maximum value of €12,000 for TDs and €9,250 for Senators entirely unaccountable. Out of those that do choose to vouch for their expenses, only around 10 per cent are ever audited. Even if audited, the resulting report doesn’t specify exactly how a member’s allowance was spent. A member’s receipts are returned to them afterwards and never published.

The secrecy around politicians’ allowances is indicative of a broader, national acceptance of the inaccessibility of government affairs and perpetuates the notion that Oireachtas business is a distant practice, inconsequential to the everyday lives of ordinary citizens. An independent body would transform knowledge about our public representatives’ spending behaviour from an inaccessible cornucopia, into a public service easily available to the electorate – and reinforce an open, more transparent relationship between the government and the citizen population.

The report calls for the review of an extra €10,000 allowance paid to committee chairmen and party whips. The committee also recommends that certain costs previously itemised as expenses should be assigned to basic pay. This would mean politicians would receive certain allowances which are universally paid to all members of their grade as part of their core salary, which would be unavailable to public scrutiny.

Reform

PAC also recommends scrapping the additional €41,000 party leader’s allowance currently appropriated to each independent TD and Senator, due to a loophole within our system which effectively double-pays recipient members for certain allowances. This is a recommendation which has been frequently advanced by our national political spending watchdog, the Standards in Public Office Commission. But expecting to lead expenses reform from within the government would be the equivalent to lobbying turkeys to vote for Christmas. Relinquishing authority to a non-governmental commission – similar to IPSA in the UK, which is responsible for paying MPs’ salaries and expenses – is the most appropriate way to enact such potentially politically difficult measures.

Furthermore, by considering the most suitable level of expenses in a detached manner, an independent commission made up of a portion of the electorate reinforces the contention that our political representatives work on our behalf and are consequently, ultimately accountable to the citizen population.

Transparency

More transparency in how and and on what basis TDs and Senators claim expenses is clearly needed, and the implementation of an independent body is the most legitimate way of achieving this. The PAC Report is a recognition of this need from government officials and we should demand the immediate appointment of such an authority before the matter gets lost in political bickering. This body, like its UK counterpart, should also be authorised to determine the procedures in place for investigating potential abuse of the expenses scheme.

Oireachtas members claim around €7.3 million in expenses annually. Although this figure is expected to increase, any reform to the regime will not make much of a difference to the upcoming Budget. The Irish people deserve to know how their representatives are spending their taxes, but obsessing over politicians expenses is a populist approach which distracts both citizens and representatives from more meaningfully engaging in substantial, constructive dialogue with each other.

The Constitutional Convention is a gesture towards such an approach, but has prioritised inconsequential issues relative to more imminent concerns such as the need for more fundamental political reform.

This debate around TDs’ expenses should become part of a larger conversation around transparency in Irish politics in general, rather than simply a weapon with which to attack our political representatives.

Sarah O’Neill is a TCD student and founder/CEO of www.dailwatch.ie, a non-profit, politically neutral platform for direct, public Q&A between citizens and TDs. The project came about from the ChangeNation initiative which identifies global solutions and adapts them to address Irish challenges. Join the conversation @dailwatch #AskaTD.

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Comments (52 Comments)

  • Imagine getting paid to turn up for work. They have no moral authority lecturing the public about anything . The highest paid public representatives in Europe. Look across the water to the UK , a country of 60 odd million population and their salaries are nothing near what our lads get. We’ve far too many tds for a country our size . Tuesday morning rant !

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    • It’s a great life for some. Even self confessed thieves can claim thousands a year in unvouched expenses in Ireland. Oh how I wish I’d been born with a brass neck, or my mother had bought me a few pink polo shirts!!

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    • We also have a secret service (the special branch) that doesn’t report to anyone. At least in Britian or U.S.A. M.I.5 or the C.I.A. reports to someone. Ours simply hand in a bill to be paid without question. This is extremely unusual in democratic countries and is a major cause of concern in Europe.

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    • Everyone who cares about changing Ireland should read Gene Sharp’s handbook for non-violent revolution, From Dictatorship to Democracy (the book that was the manual for all the Velvet Revolutions, photocopied and distributed in secret – people served seven-year jail sentences for even having a copy in some countries). It’s here in PDF http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD.pdf and is available in Dublin City Libraries.

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  • Some of the expenses these guys earn are criminal. The job description prior to running for their job is simple: public service. I mean they know they’ll have to leave the comfort of their home to go to Dublin to attend the Dail – why are they paid more to get there? And then again to attend their job once they get there?! Argh! Reform is so badly needed

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  • The question is, what can be done about it? I’m sick of reading about how overpaid our representatives are when all around me, I see nothing but despair. What can we actually do? Because at this stage, I am up for anything. We just don’t seem to DO anything, we say plenty but do little. I’m not trying to offend anyone, I’m just so frustrated with this government.

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  • This entire expenses thing is a scandal. Amazing how they are paid in advance while the rest of us are paid in arrears. If a person on the dole has a change of circumstances it takes months to sort it out. Disgraceful.

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  • Great article. The source of most of our country’s problems is our shambles of a political system. It is so unfit for purpose it cannot be fixed. It needs to be replaced. Some of the international press have recently referred to us as medieval. We do need modern, professional, equitable and transparent government. It is shameful that there is no Dail vision and leadership on this. .

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  • johnny 27/11/12 #

    i am a firm believer that the only way to cure politics of itself is to remove the financial incentive which drives the present culture and mindset forward! politics is a civic duty…not a lucrative cash roller!!

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  • The System of Allowances needs to Be abolished & Ministers need a wake up call !!! The day of the Celtic Tiger & fat cats is well & truly gone !!!

    Budget after Budget we receive tax increases, introduction of new charges & taxes, 1 after another , e.g house hold charge. 1st off Government want their cut , (stamp duty) then the Bank screws you on Interest charges, along with increased Electrical & fuel bills & now a property tax !!!
    Where does it stop !!! .

    But yet our Politician’s are still receiving extortionate wages, along with expenses for travel, Accomadation , and a seperate allowance to cover the cost of running a constituency office.

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    • And was it not (I could be mistaken) Phil Hogan, when asked would he take a cut, answered that his circumstances at the moment would not allow it! Nice to be asked if you’d like a cut….. and be in a position where you CHOOSE not to!!

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  • Patitas 27/11/12 #

    The lack of transparency and accountability in favour of friendship and “being nice to the other” in Ireland is shocking…and not only in the public sector…

    Once people understand that those are not contradictory behaviours/actions we will take a great step in the right direction.

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  • Why the hell should t.d.s get expenses and we have way too many of them anyway ?

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    • peter 27/11/12 #

      There is no reason other than they are all greedy people. They stand on our doorstep at election times with their big false smiles & promise the stars when actually what this translates as is ” I could not give a fcuk how you are or what your short/long term futures are as long as I get my arse on a seat in Kildare st.” Not one of them has come close to making me think otherwise.

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    • Well, they are politicians after all…. Comes with the territory to be a crook

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  • it’s notjust the ‘expenses’ that needssorting out, we havefar too many T.D’s there should be a maximum of 50, they should be paid the average industrial wage, with no expenses ,living from home allowences, travel allowences etc payable to any of them, if this were the case, then we would see just who is in the job for ‘ the good of the country ‘ and who is there strictly for the money. change is needed but will never happen so long as they are theones whowill decide what changes have to be made, turkeys won’t vote for christmas.

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  • Imagine is we the citizens were entitled to the expenses allowance. It must be lovely having all of your expenses paid before your wages even get into your hands lol

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  • Two houses, the Seanad & Dáil Éireann. Over paid and under performing, the majority of them….
    Pre election promise of getting rid of the Seanad from FG…..
    We are a country of just 4.5m people, we never needed all of these public representatives …
    So frustrating….

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  • Its a pure joke, and we have people in previous threads complaining that the gardai are overpaid, yet any overtime that the gardai have done recently wont be paid until early 2013. Absolute circus.

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  • its just like its always been….166 pigs gorging at the trough!!

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  • The fact this is even in question highlights the self serving nature of politicians.

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  • Great article. The source of most of our country’s problems is our shambles of a political system. It is so unfit for purpose it cannot be fixed. It needs to be replaced. Some of the international press have recently referred to us as medieval. We do need modern, professional, equitable and transparent government. It is shameful that there is no Dail vision and leadership on this.

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  • Power without accountability (what we have now), guarantees corruption can happen. The constitution states all people are equal. Yes have a larger debate on expenses and in the end only allow those expenses that are allowed to everybody equally. I’m talking about travel, accommodation, meals, fuel, phone & internet etc. If a private individual is only allowed claim so much per km of travel why should a politician get more? While we are at it why don’t we fix their rate of pay to the average industrial wage, or other such standard, or does public service mean, I serve the public but only for the betterment of myself? Finally tie their pensions to the national retirement age & only when they are actually retired from gainful employment & have no other income such as a bar, shop, farm etc.

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  • expenses not matched to receipts in d private sector taxed as income. wonder if they are following their own tax laws…..

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  • The pathetic thing is that Ireland will tolerate this. Some people will grumble, myself included but it will go unpunished. The next general election each party will line up and spout their lies and the gullible Irishman and woman will select their ‘old favourite’ like its coffee they are buying. Nothing will ever change here. Politicians have been taking every pound and euro they can while proclaiming to be the honest hard working and dedicated servant. When anything that matters pops up the claim that they can’t tell the public. Ireland is a hole that Europe is crapping in and Bell-Enda is handing out mints and hand towels.

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  • politicians and bankers have both become really well paid public servant jobs in ireland.

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  • All TDs expenses should be abolished. Have an independent body to assess constituent offices overheads and running costs and to lower TDs wages in line with current public sector wages. They are public representatives assigned to office to champion the needs of the people not to sit on their laurels counting their “lolly”. Adopt an attitude if you don’t perform or fulfill the duties you were assigned to do than your out.

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  • how many people paying income tax . dose it take to keep one TD in clover . around 100 i would say . any ideas .

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  • Their expenses, enable an unfair advantage at election times, free postage , Bertie ( Christmas cards) , travel to clinics, it’s ridiculous, , pay them a wage that’s it,

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  • Ranting won’t change anything, go down to your TD and demand answers in Person. Then Demand in writing to you, that he is going to act according to your wishes and do something quickly. As long as we are on here ranting, they’re happy to sit back and carry on regardless!

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  • Its a pure joke, and we have people in previous threads complaining that the gardai are overpaid, yet any overtime that the gardai have done recently wont be paid until early 2013. Absolute circus.

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  • Same people who cut people’s benefits after working a lifetime are the same bunch who get expenses just to turn up for the job they are paid to do.TD’s talk about cut backs well in this time TD’s should earn the average industrial wage with no expenses whatever and lets see how patriotic they really are but that won’t happen unless we the people of Ireland make a stand.we are the collective idiots who are allowing them to feather their own nest. A national disgrace.

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  • A thought just came to me.Bring the kids from Wayside to the Dail and have classes there and let the Dail sit in the school with no heating.See how long it takes to be fixed then!!!!

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  • politicians and bankers have both become really well paid public servant jobs in ireland.

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  • No money for primary school heating repairs but its ok to have unvouched TDs expenses .What a lovely place to live.I wonder what the men of 1916 would think when they were lining up to be murdered by the British Army if the new this was what was to follow
    “you have disgraced yourselves again”

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  • Hmm.. This article takes a dodgy turn when the author dismisses legitimate concerns about politicians’ expenses as a populist distraction which, horror of horrors, won’t solve the budget deficit in one fell swoop. This is exactly the line that Howlin spins, as an excuse for not dealing with the issue.

    This is not an issue because politicians’ salaries and unvouched expenses form some hitherto untapped source of incredible wealth that could plug the hole in the budget. This an issue because politicians stand up every day and tell the sick, the elderly, the disabled, the poor and the unemployed that we all have to share the pain, we all have to contribute, these are tough times but we’re all hurting, we all have to pull together and make the hard decisions. And while they’re standing up and pontificating about how we all need to tighten our belts and make do, are they tightening their belts alongside us? Of course not. They’re living very comfortably on huge salaries and exorbitant expenses, without an ounce of accountibility.

    It’s not about distraction. It’s not even about plugging gaps in the budget. It’s about fairness and solidarity. We should never forget this.

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  • politics isint corrupt but it attracts corrupt people…..and rat catcher kenny a spinless amoeba is the most corrupt of them all..call yourself a leader…a leader leads ..guides his people cajoles them..tells them whats going on..confides in them consults them ..installs confidence in them.a leader re.assures his people and stands up for them and protects them..but you ..rat catcher do none of these things..you and yours have let the irish people down after we intrusted you with our voice to go to europe and fight our corner..we voted you in specifically to do this one task and instead you use this opportunity to line your pockets and the pockets of your cronies..

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  • Yes it’s called ‘CUTE HOORISM’ something many Irish are very good at! TD’s, Senators and whole plethora of civil servants, quango fat cats, semi state fat cats they all know how get their ‘entitlements’ but they are not very keen to share the information with the people who they are taking it from. It should be the case, that if these people are taking public money then they should have to show the public what it is they do for that money, what they have achieved to get that money and what they have used that money for. Expenses of any kind no matter how much should only be paid on production of a receipt. Politicians CANNOT be trusted when it comes to expenses, it is as simple as that. This secrecy around it is because they are hiding abuses of the system and you know what they are all it in form or another hence the secrecy!

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  • politicians and bankers have both become really well paid public servant jobs in ireland.

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