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Column: There ARE barriers to women participating in politics

Political scholar Claire McGing says a gender quota for elections is one step to balance – but meaningful change requires more than that.

Claire McGing

THERE IS A conference taking place today in Dublin Castle that will ask: How to Elect More Women? Convened by Kathleen Lynch TD, the Minister of State for Disability, Equality, Mental Health and Older People, the conference will hear from politicians, party leaders, political activists, political administrators and academics. It aims to provide an open forum for discussion on steps that can and must be taken to ensure that Irish women achieve full equality in political life.

It is being organised in light of the recent publication of the Electoral (Amendment) (Political Funding) Bill 2011. The bill proposes a gender quota. Parties must run at least 30 per cent women candidates and 30 per cent men candidates in general elections or lose half of the State funding they receive yearly under the Electoral Act, 1997. The threshold will rise to 40 per cent after seven years. If passed, Ireland will be the seventh country in the EU27 to implement a candidate balancing mechanism through law. The bill is due to go the upper house in the next few weeks.

Questions have been raised on ways in which the candidate selection process might be altered to give more consideration to gender representation. It is hoped that this important conference will consider how parties might recruit additional numbers of women to run and ensure this leads to an increase in their parliamentary presence. Speakers will also reflect on the distinct contribution women make to Irish political life.

The gender imbalance in politics is stark. Of the total 4,744 Dáil seats that have been filled since 1918, just 260 have been occupied by women. Only 91 women TDs have been elected since the foundation of the State. Twenty-five (15 per cent) Dáil seats out of 166 are currently held by women. With the 2014 local elections fast approaching, this conference is being organised at a key time.

As one of the speakers today, I will outline my research on how barriers to women’s participation can be overcome, or at the very least, lessened. Four key resources tend to equate to ‘electability’ in politics: experience, networks, time and funds. Given the persistent division of care in Irish society, men are in a better position to take advantage of these resources than women. Just 16 per cent of councillors at present are female, a particularly worrying figure since would-be deputies very often first ‘cut their teeth’ in local politics. Men have more time to devote to party activism and build up a base of supporters who will support them on the convention night. In 2012 women still earn less than men.

These factors mean the candidate pipeline is dominated in the main by well-positioned, ‘electable’ men.

Once in power, women must be facilitated to stay there

Gender quotas will allow more women to overcome these highly gendered, localistic barriers. But meaningful change requires more than simply having 30 per cent females on national candidate lists. Once in positions of power, women must be facilitated to stay there and make their distinct contribution.

Party meetings and parliamentary business should be undertaken during family-friendly hours. This would hugely benefit both men and women deputies with young children. The Scottish Parliament provides an illustrative example of the positive effects of such an approach. Female councillors, deputies and senators, like women employees, should also be entitled to statutory maternity leave.

These key issues, and others, will be discussed and debated today in Dublin Castle. There is plenty of opportunity for delegates to make contributions from the floor.

2012 marks the 90th anniversary of the full enfranchisement of Irish women. We should aim for a parliament that better reflects the composition of society for the 100-year celebration. The political underrepresentation of women, or perhaps better put as the overrepresentation of men, has negative symbolic and substantive consequences. To leave the last words to the late Dr Garret FitzGerald: ‘Our party system, lacking significant female input, is bound to be incomplete and defective’.

Claire McGing is a Government of Ireland IRCHSS scholar and a John and Pat Hume scholar in the Department of Geography at NUI Maynooth. Her doctoral research is concerned with the relationship between gender and electoral politics in Ireland.

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Comments (47 Comments)

  • I’m interested what the research your has shown with regard to Irish women’s interest /engagement is in political life in general. I have found and this is my own experience that there does simply not seem to be the same level of interest as men . Of course this is anecdotal and a generalisation but I was involved in holding public meetings with guest speaker on various topics last year and found that women rarely exceeded 10 % of attendees even when we actively invited .my view is that politics should be passion .those who want to will !,doers will try to change things men or women , such people don’t need rules to get them started. Our country is wrecked because Bertie et al had no vision or genuine interest in politics as vehicle for change rather he was only interested in the trappings of power and party , nothing I see here will change that culture . We have plenty smart women in this country it’s time for mothers , sisters , friends to instil passion , vision for a better country , let’s not have an other crop mediocre men and women populate our political institution , we have plenty of them and they are getting us no where. There is a serious talent / intellectual deficit in Irish politics right now. My view is motivation trumps legislation every time!

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    • Maybe women do politics, or find social/economic/justice solutions in other ways than attending public meetings and standing for elections…

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    • That really makes the point of the article that there are barriers to women’s participation. You have shown that it affects all levels of politics. Did you have the public meeting in the morning for example, when women are generally freer to attend while their children are in school or in the evenings when they are generally immersed in their caring roles of wife, mother, housewife? Men might be in a better position to attend evening meetings. There is a need to look further into generalised statements made about the motives of women’s non participation at whatever level to discover why rather than make assumptions about their level of interest.

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  • What a stupid idea. If women have barriers to entry into an election, then those barriers should be annalysed and dispensed off where possible, but to say 30% of candidates have to be women means that the right of choice of the electorate is being dictated to us…again!
    It will probabl end up with electoral areas without much of a chance of having a party member elected leading to the party running a useless women candidate simply to fulfill the quota. When I am choosing a candidate, I want credible candidates be them men or women, not a faux about ‘gender equality’.

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  • I’m still no wiser after reading this. The article says that there are barriers to women entering politics, mentions experience, networks, time and funds, but doesn’t explain any further. Possibly edited out?

    Can someone please explain to me what exactly these barriers are, how they don’t apply to men? Thanks.

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  • Ok I may be making light of this issue with what I am about to say, but surely if more women wanted to run for election then they would. Why try and force people into it? I don’t support the idea of quota. Not for “sexist” reasons, but simply because it seems wrong to me for some reason. I am sorry if I have made too a light a subject of this issue

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    • Totally agree Jonathan, these quotas are a load of rubbish, whatever happened to ability??? We need people with vision and a desire to change the old ingrained ways, don’t matter if they are male, female, big, small etc…total balderdash!!!!!

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  • “Given the persistent division of care in Irish society, men are in a better position to take advantage of these resources than women.”

    Easier solution to this – greater paternity leave and strengthened fathers’ rights. As it stands, fathers have no constitutional right to their children unless their married to the mother, or unless the manage to convince the mother to go to court and officially allow him to be part of his children’s’ life. Share the burden of care with men, you’ll find most fathers and society at large would welcome this.

    That will level the playing field without some embittered Greerian feminists’ ham-fisted “solution” that compromises democracy, deciding who gets put forward based on gender not merit. I don’t want our rights to be curtailed because Claire McGing’s not happy with the choices that we the electorate have been making.

    God I wish there were a referendum on this…

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  • Gender quotas just don’t work, This is democracy, We vote for people not on their gender but on their ability to do a job. I don’t care if a candidate is Man/Woman/Trans or for that matter White/black etc. There is a racial imbalance in the Dail should we therefore have a racial quota? This utter nonsense, can we stop worrying about who represents us and instead worry about those that represent us and the job they are doing. The job they’ve done so far and enabling some kind of metrics to judge them by.

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  • This issue seems to be up for discussion in the journal every second week! And it’s usually someone pushing a feminist stance…

    I’m all for debate, but people are really going to start questioning the credibility of the journal when they suspect it has an agenda.

    This issue is but one of many where there appears to be an unbalanced representation of opinion. The traveller/accommodation article yesterday is but one example.

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    • “I’m all for debate, but people are really going to start questioning the credibility of the journal when they suspect it has an agenda.”

      I assume you read/listen to nothing owned by O Reilly or O Brien then either? Or is media just have an agenda when its feminist related?

      “You cant be neutral on a moving train”

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    • Winston 20/01/12 #

      How often is the issue pushed, as an issue in itself, in the Irish Times or Independent ? No-where near as often as I see it in the journal ! Who’s pushing it ?

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    • “How often is the issue pushed, as an issue in itself, in the Irish Times or Independent ? ”

      I assumed it was agendas hidden within media in principle rather than equality social justice and feminism you had an issue with.

      “This issue is but one of many where there appears to be an unbalanced representation of opinion. The traveller/accommodation article yesterday is but one example.”

      WTF? Tackling oppressions isnt about ‘balancing opinion’. When i was a kid Catholics couldnt get social housing in a unionist dominated political system. It wasnt a matter of ‘balancing opinions’, but of ending that oppresssions and changing the cultures that facilitate then.

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    • Oh but Mark, weren’t you outraged that paedophile priests were given no airtime to explain their predilections (for instance)? Winston is just looking for some balance in the discussion…

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    • kate bh 20/01/12 #

      what is wrong in as you say”pushing ” a feminist agenda? there is no agenda in wanting to have equality, i wish feminism wasn’t seem as some negative agenda. As Caitlin Morans book says its about all of us both men and women having an equal standing. Is that not something worth writing about? just like minority groups having a voice like yesterdays column? or do you think that only certain opinions are allowed in our media?

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    • We can rely on you to provide the balance Mr Winston. That’s the great thing about interactive news pages…

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    • Why assume that a feminine stance is being pushed? What do you consider the feminist stance to be? It seems to scare you! Are you afraid that women seek to rule the world? To set the record straight, what is being sought is that women are enabled to participate fully in society, including politics, where decisions are made affecting all citizens, regardless of gender, despite ridiculously few women being able to participate in the decision making process. Can any of you, in all honesty, consider that to be unreasonable? Can you say that, were the positions reversed and men were virtually excluded in this way, that you would not want the equality yourselves? I think there is a great need for a change of attitude. If comments here on equality (aka feminism) are to judged as a straw poll of Irish society’s attitude to women’s participation in politics or decision making positions in any area of Irish life, it shows that sexism is thoroughly flourishing here! There seems to be no openness for the discussion even! Minds seem most definitely closed to the debate! Even were the quota legislation passed, selected women candidates would have to overcome animosity to their selection as well as discrimination to their suitability for the post. Surely these cannot be the only views! I know it is intimidating seeing this barrage of comments negative to women’s equality, but surely there are fair minded people out there who see the sense and fairness of this!
      Re the Journal’s role:- All of the Irish news media sites are talking on this topic. It is news!

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  • If there was a quote set for men for pretty much anything, It’d immediately be torn apart by feminists and too rightly so!
    I’m not a ‘maleist’ (Men don’t even have a term for it!) but I don’t believe that forcing numbers on this is beneficial to the people – which is who ultimately pays the cost.

    I’m all up for women working anywhere, and the same is for men!

    Femenism just seems to be very one sided for me. (Yes, that might seem obvious, but at the end of the day I believe any form of ‘feminism’ or ‘male-ism’ is just another way to discriminate against the opposite sex)

    If women feel so discriminated or challenged in the workplace, then getting a quote won’t solve anything.

    If I was an employer I wouldn’t give a damn if you were a woman, a man, an Indian or a yellow carrot! As long as you could do the job. Thats what ‘feminists’ need to change. Not the quote, but the supposed attitudes of the employers.

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  • DubDon 20/01/12 #

    So parties must run 30% female candidates and 30% male candidates… What about the other 40%? Oh yeah they must be family members of the political elite…!!!

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  • So lets says there is a 3 seater constituency. A party is running 3 peoele. At their selection convention one has to be a man and one has to be a woman. If 3 men get the highest number of votes, and the highest placed woman finishes 6th the woman will take the place on the ticket. Not very democratic…..
    The other way this could be done is split the vote into two. One ballot for a male and one for a female.. Segration of men and women sounds a bit Saudi to me. Women have fought tooth and nail for equality but this is not equality. Yes there should be more women in the Dail but its upto parties to encourage women to get involved but having gender quotas is un democratic, and quite sexist IMO

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    • Okay! Many of you disagree with quotas. Let’s see if there is any area where we can agree.
      Are women equally represented in politics?
      *Is it fair that they should be able to participate in decisions affecting their lives?
      *Should we look into why they don’t?
      *Do we accept that the current and previous predominantly male TDs are the best possible representatives of the people?
      *Do we not need to consider candidates from over half the population because we already have the best of the best in government?
      *Is it true that only men are capable of decision making?
      *Women have reproductive organs so they are made by God only to bear and care for children, husbands and homes and should not aspire to anything more?
      I think I have got questions there that would cover most of these comments and that some people can get behind!

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    • @Denise
      Are women equally represented in politics? – Yes, they appear to have voted for more male than female candidates.

      *Is it fair that they should be able to participate in decisions affecting their lives? – Yes, they already have an equal opportunity to do that at the moment. They can both vote in elections and run in them.

      *Should we look into why they don’t? – Yes

      *Do we accept that the current and previous predominantly male TDs are the best possible representatives of the people? – Why did women vote for men if they felt they were not being represented?

      *Do we not need to consider candidates from over half the population because we already have the best of the best in government? – I thought we already considered all candidates? Where have women been excluded from the ballot?

      *Is it true that only men are capable of decision making? – No

      *Women have reproductive organs so they are made by God only to bear and care for children, husbands and homes and should not aspire to anything more? – I hardly think that’s true and I think some of the women in politics might think you’re being a little sexist if that’s the way you feel

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  • Gender quotes for any job is another form of discrimination which results in the best candidate for the job not always getting the job.

    The fact is politics is a job most women have no interest in, just like the construction industry or firemen. Similarly men don’t have an interest in nursing of bikini waxing.

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  • There are more women than men in this state, so ask the question… Why aren’t there more women in the Dail….. Not even with a majority of numbers in the state will women vote for women in numbers…… Everyone should read the Article by Kevin Myers in the Indo this week…….. Equality is just a feminists right to whinge…. It highlights that you see NO WOMEN fighting for equality to work as bin men, deep sea divers, labourers, oil rig workers etc….

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  • Ah come on Journal, not only have you shown a ridiculous pro-quota bias but you’ve now featured two articles on the the topic from the same contributor. Bit of balance would be nice.

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  • it strikes me as funny in an absurd way that its men commenting on this column. feminism is not something to be afraid of, its simply a movement that wants equality for women. please do not say that we live in an equal society, because we don’t – and that’s not me being all poor me because i have a fanny! i just see that it generally is harder for women to be taken seriously in politics or even grass roots community endeavours. feminism is instantly used as a word to create negative conotations – its more importantly a positive movement to improve equality for all. I mean just look at all female words that are used in a negative way? just look at how our own society sees a stay at home dad as negative – which it clearly is not. yet its fine for a woman to stay at home.. i personally would like the world i live in to be equal about domestic and political roles as surely it can only benefit us all?

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    • The people who immediately associate feminism with something negative are trying very hard to ignore plain facts. In the grand scheme of things, women still have a hell of a lot to fight for. That’s not me trying to victimise women or vilify men, it’s just something that’s clear to us.

      Sometimes it can be hard to stomach the dismissal, the mutterings of ‘feminazi’ and more purile terms, when women’s issues are put forward by women.

      But that’s just me having a whinge, I suppose.

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    • By the way.. I don’t agree with the quotas. I believe in deeper issues being addressed.

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    • I would have thought women have a level playing field with their male counterparts at the grass roots level; equal opportunity for time to be spent with constituents as their male counterparts. If women are not being take seriously at this level than perhaps they’re not doing a good enough job. If they are not being taken seriously perhaps they are not taking the role seriously enough.
      I would like to be represented by the most qualified candidate, as I’m sure you would. If a candidate falls short of the mark I will not select them regardless of their gender.
      I have no fear of feminism, though I don’t see why you bring it up. I wasn’t aware that our political system in anyway said “men only” or “men get priority”. Though, I did see Mary Michel O’Connor think’s it is acceptable to hold women only meetings. That worries me; that my constituency representative feels it is acceptable to consciously exclude my gender from government meetings is definitely worrying. All of us men and women should fight against that. Were similar men only meetings held I would be equally worried.

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  • It’s an issue I tend to see multiple sides to: Claire has outlined some excellent reasons for a gender quota. On the other hand, electorally gender quotas favour bigger political parties who can simply pick women to be their also-ran candidates, sweepers and so forth; whereas smaller parties have to pick women in constituencies where they can only run the 1 candidate to be competitive and in with a chance of winning a seat.

    What happens if you have, as today, men who build and lead a local political organisation and then have to step aside in favour of a woman to meet the quota? A party with exceptionally localised support – say, Dublin only – could run women in other areas to meet the quota. But a party with broad geographical support that’s narrow in percentage terms would be in trouble and risk losing their chance to gain national representation to the advantage of the existing larger parties.

    The same could be applied in reverse for a women’s party, of course. But that’s not the issue.

    I think that we should be careful and note that a gender quota will have other distorting effects on how our democracy works – Not quite gerrymandering, but certainly impacting the result of elections and, therefore, who runs the country and how.

    We need a proper analysis of that and how to combat it also. Eg. Offering exemptions to parties of certain size.

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  • Muc Beag 20/01/12 #

    If anyone wants to see some balance and generally decent journalistic standards on the issue, head over to the Irish Times. They have two good pieces up on their site today.

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  • OI would like to see someone balance In women’s participation in politics not dreadful looking zombies and utter nagging voices like McDonald and Daly.Some women who have a grasp of society.It has to be said! There are very capable women in the dail and seanad. But these two take the biscuit.

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  • Why capitalise the ‘are’. This is simply a statement of fact. Another is that austerity affect women and kids much more than men, although class is also a sigificant factor. We live in a country whose Department of Finance was so progressive that they use women slaves to do their laundry until the middle of the last decade of the 20th century.
    Thats the rub though. Its actually the democratic set up that is part of the problem. FF and FG both presided over the slavery and oppression of women (as well as the imprisonment and abuse of children). In many cases the same family dynasties are still present in the same parties. Bonkers mate. The Church has rightly been shut out and slowly crumbling away. It deserves to, people spirituality will find new homes.

    These political organisations have been major opponents of women most of their existense, probably best not to forget that too

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    • Winston 20/01/12 #

      Mark, I don’t really buy into the notion that women aren’t welcome into political organisations these days. I know of two ladies, both teachers, who were ASKED to stand for both FG and FF in local elections as there were no female candidates going forward. The male candidates had to go through a committee to get their name on the paper.

      In college, where there is virtually no constraints on participation, the overwhelming majority of students putting their name forward to get involved were men! It was just something which really struck me at 18 years of age when, even back then, the debate was raised.

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    • “In college, where there is virtually no constraints on participation, the overwhelming majority of students putting their name forward to get involved were men!”

      Must be somethin wrong with women right? Couldnt possibly be the culture and instutional forms?

      “I know of two ladies, both teachers, who were ASKED to stand for both FG and FF in local elections as there were no female candidates going forward”

      Oh 2 two women. 2 women ASKED by a bunch of men? And they refused to take this opportunity to join either FF ad FG elections as candidate?

      See answer to point 1. And see what you thought at 18. Interesting as it might have been as a person coming out of boyhood, it might be time to unlearn it. If you havents shifted your understanding of the role of institional and culture of oppression of women in this state, theres your problem right there.

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    • Winston 20/01/12 #

      The point was that entering university is seen by many as an opportunity to pursue those interests they previously could not. Politics, for many, is one. I just didn’t see as much female interest then and I’d be happy to hear if the same applies. That’s my contribution and I’m leaving it at that to let others get involved.

      Btw, there’s no need to reprint entire quotes either… We can make the connection on a ‘reply’ tread.

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    • “Btw, there’s no need to reprint entire quotes either… We can make the connection on a ‘reply’ tread.”

      I was just making clear where I was addressing specific points raised.

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    • @Mark

      Try to be more condescending. Just try.

      Also, while you’re at it – try to put forward some substantive argument on how women are actually oppressed instead of repeatedly citing some long-gone social norms that a large majority of men alive today never participated in to justify the erosion of the democratic process.

      By slavery of women, I presume you’re referring to the Magdalene Laundries? The ones run by nuns, right?

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    • Mark. Very good points there. I’d love to join debate but on the several occasions I have I’m usually given the “bored housewife” “men hater” card. Kinda proves your point…

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    • Winston 20/01/12 #

      Just to clarify, out of my circle of friends, (not the nation!) two females were asked to stand for virtually guaranteed seats. They both took them and got elected. That’s out if my personal experience. I have no other male friends who were cherry picked in the same manner.

      @Mark, you need to go for a run or lift some weights… You seem to have a lot of steam to let off. This isn’t the place for it. I’d prefer to come onto a site and have genuine debate with the sarcasm. You’ve certainly put me on returning to this topic to experience your negative attitude so I bid you goodbye.

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    • Muc Beag 20/01/12 #

      How does it prove his point?

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    • Think I know what you mean Winston. Had to read it a few times and mentally edit. Me thinks you were feeling a bit hot as well…

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  • Are not gender quotas discriminatory?
    Should we further sub-divide quotas: say, lone parents, pensioners etc… absurd.
    BTW gender quotas are possibly unconstitutional

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  • Is one of those barriers better qualified men?

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  • I have a simple solution – make every constituency an even number, then have 2 ballots, male and female. Instant 50% participation!

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