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Column: Yes, centenaries are tourism gold but let’s not forget our past for a quick buck

Tour guide John Gibney says Ireland should recognise the events being marked over the coming years as vital parts of our heritage, and not just as opportunities for tourism.

John Gibney

Should Irish businesses occasionally fly the Union Jack to cater for the sensibilities of British tourists?

This was one suggestion contained in a forthright report on tourism in Dublin published last year which addressed the alarming decline in British visitor numbers in recent years.

The Union Jack is a flag that many Irish people have a problem with. The Cross of St George and the Saltire get aired throughout the year, especially during the Six Nations tournament, but these lack the imperialist connotations of the union flag and are naturally easier to swallow.

We tend to fly quite a number of national flags, with one very obvious (and understandable) exception.

It is a thorny issue, made all the trickier by being raised on the cusp of the forthcoming decade of centenaries that technically starts this year.

Tourism can get us out of our present discontents

Between now and 2023 we can expect to hear about the anniversaries of (at the very least): the sinking of the Titanic, the Home Rule crisis, the founding of the Ulster Volenteer Force and Irish Volunteers, the 1913 Lock Out, the First World War, the Easter Rising, the battle of the Somme, the rise of Sinn Fein, the First Dáil, the War of Independence, partition, the foundation of the Free State, the British withdrawal from the twenty-six counties, and the Civil War.

Ireland’s history and heritage does, at some level, have a role to play in attracting visitors. And within that, our somewhat troubled relationship with Britain rings a bell for many, if not most. In this light, it might seem a tad ironic to start flying the Union Jack again at precisely the time when we are supposed to be remembering the events that got rid of it in the first place.

There are two key issues here. One is the renewed emphasis on tourism as a business proposition to get us out of our present discontents. The other is how the forthcoming decade of centenaries beginning this year might be a part of it. After all, it not just business that is at stake; these events have a meaningful role to play in terms of promoting some kind of mutual understanding, and not just inside Ireland.

Feathers will be ruffled; people will be offended

In a recent speech in London, Enda Kenny stated that the centenaries would be celebrated with ‘historical accuracy and mutual respect’. That is as it should be. But we must be wary of what that might mean in practice. It would be an appalling travesty just to settle on some kind of anodyne agreed history that ruffles no feathers, or to come up with an unofficial agreement that one side can take, say, the Easter Rising while the other can have the battle of the Somme.

The reality is that these events are all part of a package.

The Easter Rising was as much a product of the First World War as the Somme. Equally, if the Easter Rising is not seen in some quarters as anything to celebrate, then neither should be the foundation of the UVF in 1913; and after all, they got the ball rolling.

The reality is that the forthcoming centenaries cannot avoid offending everyone at some point. So nobody should take the easy options of confirming everyone in their prejudices by trying not to upset anyone, and then pawning this half-baked rubbish off on all-and-sundry who set foot here.

Although it’s tempting…don’t rant about the British

One should, when explaining Irish history to tourists, avoid the temptation to embark upon an anti-British rant. Because it would be far too easy. One cannot avoid the appalling record of the British state in Ireland in any such explanation. So there is no need to lay it on thick, and to use Irish history as a stick to beat innocent British tourists with.

Nobody with a stake in this – be it ordinary citizens, academics, or tourism professionals – should, if they devote any time to these centenaries, go down the lazy road of pandering to any kind of prejudices: whether from the island of Ireland or anywhere else.

That does not mean that we should not attempt to face the facts about the years between 1912 and 1923.

Amidst the breathless commentary that accompanied the Queen’s visit last year, it seemed to be forgotten that one of her first official engagements was to respectfully lay a wreath at the Garden of Remembrance. It says a lot that the UK’s head of state would recognise Irish aspirations and the struggle for independence; a struggle for independence from her predecessors, and one which involved organisations with names such as Irish Republican Army.

In that light, perhaps an ‘occasional and public display’ (as suggested) of the UK flag is something that we can occasionally swallow.

The next ten years will see the centenaries of the some of most well known events in Irish history. During this recession, with tourism earmarked for growth, that potentially presents a golden opportunity for the tourism industry. But the commercial imperative should not overshadow the fact that these events are a vital part of our heritage; they have an importance above and beyond whatever is left of our economy. They should not be sold short for either a quick buck, or to spare anyone’s blushes.

We can explain our past in all its messy complexity without boring anyone to tears.

And we should be able to understand it ourselves without flinching.

But we need to make sure that we get the facts right. Visitors to this country might find our history and heritage all the more interesting for that.

John Gibney works on the award winning Historical Walking Tours of Dublin: www.historicalinsights.ie

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Comments (47 Comments)

  • mart_n 29/01/12 #

    I read the article but it still seems unclear to me as to why we would or should fly the Union flag. The UK don’t fly the Tricolor despite their lengthly and historical involvement here. Most kids in Great Britain aren’t even taught about that part of their history in school, safe for a brief mention of the great Cromwell.

    There’s moving on and there’s appeasing the few that refuse to do so. Flying the flag for posterities sake would seem more like the latter to me.

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    • Dave…. Not off my nut…. Many of us African-Americans have not forgotten about the past… We are working very hard to make a difference. Yes we have militants who are aggressive and who voice verbally their discontent over the past….. However, there is a large faction of us who understands that the best way to combat ignorance and prejudice is to get a superior education, become an excellent sportsman or becoming president. We appreciate and embrace those who support us and we compete with those who discriminate against us. In this way, we challenge the systems that are in place that sides with our fellow pale Americans.

      The difference between the many years of English occupation in Ireland and the slavery that existed in America… Is that the English was eventually ejected from a large portion of this Island. In America, we all had to learn live together.

      Yes, many of us African-Americans still have a chip on our shoulders… And those of us that carry this chip often are the ones that feels entitled…. Feel that the they are owed. There is a point when this anger and resentment must go…. It only causes calamity.

      This Dave… The anger, the chip and the resentment…. I believe permits the Irish to make excuses for people like Haughey and Bertie… Who from my view…. Has gotten away with Highway Robbery…. Theft from their own!

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    • Norman… Jews have gotten over it! However, they will never forget! Take it from a person who grew up with many Jews, attended Temple and enjoyed high holy days with my friends. They get over the injustices from the past by rebuilding their community, quietly fighting injustices and seeking reparations. May I respectively ask… How many Jewish people have you had the pleasure of breaking bread with?

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  • I commend the author on this fair and reasonable article.

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  • Perhaps it could be displayed as just another flag alongside all other EU flags. The flag of just another equal partner, rather than that of the former imperial power. Visiting tourists from whatever nationality however, should be left in no doubt that, while the North unfortunately is still in the UK, the Republic is a fully fledged sovereign state. None of this “Mainland Britain” nonsense should be tolerated. Perhaps it could be explained to British tourists, that our struggles were never with the British people, rather with their ruling elites.

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    • You probably won’t find too many Swastika’s flying in Poland Fergal….. There were a lot of evil deeds committed under that Butchers Apron. Hang the flag of England by all means, but certainly do not fly a flag which stands for murder, oppression and imperialism. Irish people should have an objection to that flag regardless of their stance on the north of the country also. Through its continued incorporation of the St Patrick’s Cross it maintains a claim on Ireland in its entirety.

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  • it is correctly called the Union Flag it is only called a jack when flown on naval or merchant vessels. the cross of St Patrick..indeed of the Order of St Patrick at present could not be removed as the UK has jurisdiction over the 6 north eastern counties..this having being accepted by an overwhelming majority of the Islands population un 1998 so to remove it as some suggest would be seen as betrayal in some quarters. I also have to ask why thus question us being asked..for 2nd time recently..I regularly see the Union Flag flying outside hotels etc throughout the year with the Tricolour in pride of place. a more appropriate question would be why some people can’t fly the correct Tricolour I.e. green white & Orange…and not yellow or insipid gold…flying these versions is disrespectful

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    • thats a good point Colm..why is it some tricolours have “gold” or “yellow”..this should be made an offence to fly an incorrectly coloured flag. you often hear people referring to the “green white and gold” is it a case of simple alliteration or refusal to acknowledge the “orange” population of our Island

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  • Marlon,i find that comment quiet insulting to be honest,the vast majority of Irish people have no chip on their shoulder.Most are proud of our Nation,our culture and our history,and thats as it should be,most also embrace the many changes our society has gone through over the last 20/30 years! Its still a very young Nation in historical terms and thats sometimes forgotten!

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  • What a load of nonsense! Could you imagine planning your holiday somewhere on the basis they hang Irish flags out in public?! Don’t think so!

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  • Fly the English flag the Scottish flag and the Welsh flag but until the St. Patricks cross is removed from the Union Jack I don’t think it’s welcome as a flag here

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    • Well it’s time people got real. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom and will likely remain so for a very long time. Catholics may be increasing in number, but most are sensible enough not to want to join a bankrupt banana republic. If we can fly the EU flag, which isn’t even a country and is at the moment controlling the Irish government, then we can certainly fly the flag of our nearest and best neighbour. Living in the past does nothing but cause trouble and provide cover for extremists such as Real IRA.

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  • Btw Marlon, nazi war criminals were still being persuded up to quiet recently,some probably still are for all we know, and African Americans have still to be quiet vigilent given the fact that groups like the KKK,white power,and many other fascist and neo nazi far right groups still exist and are actively recruiting!

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  • it doesn’t matter what its called it shouldn’t be flown in he republic,most people in this country have short memories

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    • Couldnt agree with ya more…..

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    • Thanks be to god

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    • Why so bitter? Ever heard of moving on?

      Far more important things to be worrying about than flying a flag.

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    • Grow up. The war is over. Look at France and Germany. Fly the flag

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    • How silly of you! Don’t you understand anything about our export market for a start? Now, on a more friendly level – you surely have family or friends living in UK, who have since went on to have their own sprogs – little Brits! Also, think about it – if Ireland had a natural disaster and people were as bad as in Japan, who do you think would be first to help? No, not our neighbours to the west. You know, I know and we all know that the UK would do anything they could to help us. Further, if the same happened in the UK, Irish people would do the very same – well maybe not certain bigoted people.

      So on that, you can ascertain that I would have no problem with flying the flag. Not for the reason as stated in the articles though. I would want it flown because I am proud of my neighbours. Just look at how they perform in Germany compared to our wonky donkey!

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  • Robert the Union Jack is not a national flag it’s a Union Flag, to which we are no longer a member but as I said in a earlier comment it still holds the diagonal red St.Patricks cross which is to denote Irish membership to the flag. I don’t think Irish people have chip on their shoulder, in fact I think Irish people are quite fond of British people. But we have continue with our independence that was so hardly fought for.

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  • Btw it’s called the union flag not the union jack, it’s only the union jack when on a royal navy ship.

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  • the fact that we are debating the idea of flying the national flag of another EU country is a damning indictment of the juvenile attitude that still pervades much of this countries denizens..if we want to be respected in Europe (not likely) and want to shrug off our “rebel drunkard” “devil may care” image then reusing to fly the flag of a fellow Eu country with whom we share a common language, similar culture etc is a very very retrograde step..Grow the fuck up people..refusing to fly it is like a spoilt child in the playground holding on to what little power it has..you think that this issue is even a blip on Britain radarr? ffs time to acknowledge the past,(never forget) but MOVE ON.

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  • we should fly it because….we are a mature modern nation who have good relations with the United Kingdom, we share the same language, similar culture etc and to mirror your response to me ..id ask why should we fly the flag of ANY country..in answering that you will answer your own question..good lad.

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    • Dave 29/01/12 #

      I dont know where this whole issue came from. I’ve seen several union jacks flown in this country..one i can think of off hand is at Dublin Airport!

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    • Well said Robert, I totally agree. It is becoming embarrassing now, people’s attitudes to our friends across the water. The attitude here seems indeed juvenile. It’s also pathetic and screams that we all have a chip on our shoulder. This opinion does not represent me.

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  • The flag of the united states and other countries are flown outside hotels/corporations in Dublin every day. What’s the difference with the union jack?

    It’s just another flag at the end of the day.

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  • Religion is the other curse of the planet as between nationalism and religion the biggest and smallish wars are fought. Try doing without both for a while and see if it improved things.

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  • Jews have gotten over their persecution by the Germans. African-Americans have primarily gotten over their persecution by White Americans. Why can’t the Irish get over their persecution by the English? Could this insistent chip on the shoulders of the Irish be in some part this country is in the state we currently find ourselves?

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    • Because in northern ireland they still live it!!! And Ireland has not yet had any justice…..

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    • Marlon, I think it’s because for some of us it’s an unfinished story. Read the thread about Bloody Sunday to gather more sentiment. They certainly left a right mess here in 26 counties too. Acquisessing slaves springs to mind!

      While we have Irish people living in 6 counties in Ireland and wanting to be part of a 32 county republic yet their city halls fly the union flag I don’t think we should care too much whether a few hotels fly the union flag or not. But the tricolour has to take pride of place and there better be a few flags flying from other countries too to make it inconspicuous. I’d rather not see it. Maybe if they took Declan’s suggestion below but it’s a long story Marlon.

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    • Dave 29/01/12 #

      Lord god, what has that got to do with our current situation? I’ve never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.

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    • What has colonialism got to do with our current situation Dave. An awful bloody lot I’d say. Slumbering slaves!!!

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    • Dave 29/01/12 #

      No, i didnt mean colonialism, i meant the assertion that our alleged “chip on the shoulder” had something to do with the recession. By the way, that dude is off his nut if he thinks black america is over what white america did to them! On a recent trip to LA, dude in the middle of the street with a megaphone shouting about “slaying the white devil”. I kid you not!

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    • Sorry i know its late but Jews have gotten over it!did you even think before you wrote that.As to the history of Ireland i think you need to enlighten yourself.

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    • That’s alright then Dave. And Marlon’s alright too but you have to know that there’s a lot of damage done here Marlon and a lot of work to be done to repair a damaged self esteem. Divide and conquer always the lazy weapon used by invading powers. It’s starting again. Some of us won’t stand for it tho. I hope you enjoy living here Marlon. We’re ok once you get to know us. ;)

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    • Well said Marlon. Too many Irish people are addicted to hatred, misery and gloom. Onwards and upwards! A thorny relationhip alright, but brothers and sisters are often that way!

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    • There is nothing to get over Marlon, as we are still in the middle of a situation. Part of Ireland remains occupied and Britain to this day denies us the right to National Self Determination. We cannot ‘get over’ our issues with the British government as they are still ongoing.

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  • We continue to define ourselves to others as what we are “not” i.e We are NOtT British..how sad.

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  • Never! Never! Never!

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  • Why fly any flag as they are of no use only cost lives in most countries? We should all grow up a little and see that nationalism is the cause of death and distruction globally. As humans we should have developed a bit more than our tribal ancestors.

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