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Column: ‘The culture war is over, and conservatives have lost’

Conservatives will win again, writes John McGuirk – but first they must stop allowing themselves to be seen as anti-women, anti-science and anti-rights.

John McGuirk

THE MOMENT THAT I, and many others, formed our belief that Mitt Romney would defeat Barack Obama and become the 45th President of the United States was not, as some might believe, after the debate in Denver, Colorado on October 3rd.

Yes, Mitt Romney won the debate, we thought – but surely Obama would refocus onto the economy and make it a race again?

No. When we became convinced was when Obama did something entirely different. Rather than make the case on the economy, he opened and closed his stump speeches in the weeks after with a new line: “There’s only one candidate in this race who will stand up for Big Bird!

The crowds cheered, and the conservatives in my Twitter feed, Gchat, on Facebook and in the real world smiled knowingly and became convinced: this guy is losing. How could he not be? In a race about the economy, with a one trillion dollar deficit and a national debt so large that if piled on top of itself in dollar coins it would stretch to Saturn, the President of the United States was making his stand on defending millions of dollars in unnecessary subsidies to one of the world’s richest and most profitable cartoon characters. He was for the 1 per cent, we thought – but only if they had feathers.

Then it was all about the binders full of women. Sure, we thought. Make our day. Make this race about a not-particularly-awful verbal slip, when household income is down $4,500 and unemployment up since you took office. Our guy will talk about the economy, and it’ll be a contrast between a vision for jobs and recovery and a vision based on new, tiresome, Twitter memes for the lolcatz generation.

We were wrong – boy, were we wrong – and it’s time to face up to why.

‘On the socio-cultural issues of the day, conservatism has resisted reality for too long’

Conservatives have lost the culture war, and right now, despite this economic climate, the culture war is all that matters. There is a generation of voters who will discard economic concerns to vote against a set of social values that they perceive, rightly or wrongly, as bigoted, backward, and wrong.

Gay marriage is no longer a debate about issues; it is a litmus test for political acceptability to an entire generation, moreso even than apartheid was twenty years ago. If we continue to be on the wrong side of that issue, millions will simply refuse to listen to another word we say.

We have lost single women. Conservatives can say that their case on contraception is not about denying it to anybody, but asking people to pay for it themselves – but in a cultural environment where we are already seen (unfairly, certainly, but fairness is irrelevant) as anti-woman, that message doesn’t break through. On the socio-cultural issues of the day, conservatism has resisted reality for too long.

We have lost too, on the environment. We are seen as sceptics of climate change, when in reality we are sceptics of the policies that liberals want us to adopt to tackle it. What is a healthy scepticism of the idea that Government programmes, higher taxes, and malthusian misery can change the climate has been allowed to fester into an idea that as a group, we hate science.

We don’t. We love science – science has brought the world wealth and prosperity, and reduced hunger and famine. In fact, science has shown us how much we can adapt and overcome climate change, but we have refused to sell that message.

‘Conservatism has never been about resisting change’

We cannot continue to be seen as the anti-gay, anti-women, anti-environment, anti-children, pro-bombing-the-hell-out-of-everything people, if for no other reason that we’re really not those people. Conservatism has never been about resisting change, but perfecting and institutionalising change.

For all that that is the image of modern conservatism, the reality is that Governor Romney and Paul Ryan ran on a radical plan to reform and change entitlement spending. In exit polls, people did not fear it. The economic radicalism – the willingness to tackle a state that is too big, too intrusive, takes too much of our money, bonds the next generation to debts we’re unwilling to pay ourselves, and wastes the very money it borrows – was not what hurt him. What hurt him was the hypocrisy charge: the idea that conservatives want Government out of everything but your bedroom.

In the West we live in – and are entering further into – an era of exultant liberalism. Religion is in decline, tolerance for difference has never been higher, our willingness to judge others has never been lower, and we are choosing to bind ourselves further and further to the idea that every problem can be solved by electing a politician to take our money and spend it more wisely than we can ourselves.

In an era of bank bailouts and historic borrowing, a time of debt crises and high unemployment, a decade of stagnation, decline, and depression, liberalism has placed its faith in Government and the state, and not the individual, or the family, or the community.

‘A good man with great ideas paid the price’

If conservatism wants to win again – and win again we will – our message must be consistent.

We trust you to love the right person, regardless of gender, race or creed.

We trust you to cherish the environment in your daily lives and work to leave a better world than the one you entered.

We trust women to thrive and succeed and rise to the top because in our view of the world, nothing is a barrier to brilliance.

We trust people to spend the euro or the dollar or the dinar in their pocket better than a government official who didn’t earn that euro and can never value it as much as the person who did.

We trust science and innovation and the freedom of free people to try new things to create the jobs, ideas, and companies that will power us to the next level.

To be conservative is to be optimistic – to believe that the arc of human history bends ever upwards towards more freedom and prosperity if we trust people and give them all the freedom we can. We won’t win again until we are true to that message. Conservatives have always been about liberating the individual. For two decades we have become the people who want to deny freedom and rights to whole groups of people.

Last night, a good man with great ideas paid the price of that failure – and we will continue to pay it until we realise that the culture war is over, and we lost.

John McGuirk is a conservative commentator and political communications consultant. He ran in the 2011 general election in Cavan-Monaghan. @john_mcguirk

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Comments (184 Comments)

  • John is among a small group of Irish commentators (you know who the others are) who yearn for an Ireland that fits into the paradigm of American politics of (US) conservatives versus (US) liberals. The amount of “We’s” in his article would suggest he is an American though my understanding is that he is Irish. The fact is that the centre of gravity of European politics is way to left of US politics. Eurosceptic John seems to want US conservatives to be more European really. Ah the irony of it all.

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  • A good read, but the progressive tone of the article feels out of whack with the current state of US conservative politics. Maybe that’s the point, but it just seems like wishful thinking.

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  • Blah blah blah . Romney has no clue what the average American is going through , just another rich disconnected idiot .

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  • “Conservatism has never been about resisting change, but perfecting and institutionalising change.” This sentence makes no sense, and shows up the lies of your argument. One cannot institutionalise change, that goes against the very nature of what change is.

    A fine example of conservative doublespeak!

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  • Genuinely feel a bit sorry for John. He was belligerent and over-confident before the election, claiming that the race “won’t even be close” and that Romney was guaranteed to win over 300 Electoral College votes. He was dismissive to the point of arrogance about polls suggesting the race would be close and aggressively defended extreme views espoused by Republicans that he says here conservatives should abandon. I’d like to believe what he writes in this opinion piece. It’s measured and actually makes sense – basically, that GOP extremism no longer cuts it – not exactly deeply insightful but true nevertheless. Still, I can’t help but think it’s an attempt by John to regain some shred of credibility after an embarrassing six months of bluff and bluster.

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    • Especially as John takes a position where he opposes abortion in cases of rape and incest, as well as fatal foetal abnormalities. It’s a bit hard to know if he believes conservatives should return to their more libertarian roots or if they should just speak like they have on the campaign trail.

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    • Agree Jamie , I also see he predictably takes pot shots at Obama for using the big bird line but seems to omits a lot of the real humdingers during the campaign from Romney , the 47% video , promise to overturn obamacare – which many feel gives them affordable healthcare – something that affects their life immensely – also usual claptrap about the deficit and yet the incredible mess the republicans left on leaving office were the absolute worst case to inherit , including two wars that were stuck on the credit card ! I’m delighted Obama won and the conservatives can all stick on Fox News and wallow in their bitterness

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  • Xadovan 07/11/12 #

    I am a democrat but this whole race is being overanalyzed. The conservatives nominated a bad multi-millionaire candidate with tons of baggage and they narrowly lost the popular vote. They will be back in 2014 or 16 and people will over exaggerating their comeback.

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  • Romney and republicans lost because they are clearly anti women , anti gay and they seem to support the mega rich if the USA at the expense of the lower and middle class. That coupled with the fact that Romney is a man totally without charisma and as wooden a poker made his defeat inevitable. He is not a good man but a man totally out of touch with reality. Something he has in common with our own politicans

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    • Mary have you ever been to America or even enquired about the ethos of the republician party? You know nothing and appear to just bash the right to make yourself feel better.

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    • Neil I’ve lived in America and in my experience most of what Mary says is correct, albeit before the advent of the tea party it bubbled away below the surface, whereas in recent times it’s “in your face and proud of it” and it scares the bejesus out of me.

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    • How long did you live there for?
      I am an American and what she says is the smae crap we heard from all europeans who wish to make themselves feel better about themselves as they elect Sarkozy and Merkel

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    • Long enough not to have my views and experiences dismissed as irrelevant by a rusted on conservative…and I’m not European so insult away.

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    • Mitt Romney is a man who devoted his life to the accumulation of (for the vast majority of people) inconceivable wealth, the effect is financial engineering had on society and on peoples lives was irrelevant. Barack Obama could have pursued wealth and had countless opportunities to do that but become a community organizer and then a politician, all the policies aside, the character of the men alone says it all. I do not believe all of Obama’s policies are correct but he is a man of extraordinary character and is in his place as president considering his background a wonderful example of all that is great about America. Clearly the anti-European bias of some on this post is an example of all that is wrong, greed, ignorance and hubris. A complete inability to accept the fact that they are in the past and the U.S appears to be moving into a healthier more equitable future, albeit with a long way to go.

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    • @Neil, you’re aware, aren’t you, that the name of the current French president is ‘Hollande’ and not ‘Sarkozy’?

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    • Mary,
      How can you say Romney is as wodden as a poker? Who makes a poker from wood? That’s ridiculous.

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    • We’re ignoring that… The socialist media can’t put a spin on Mer-llande or Holl-kel it’s just too cumbersome & verbose

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  • So rather than rethinking core values, you suggest that conservatives just do a bit to change their image. I believe if you are lucky enough to have luxuries in life that you should be happy to help out those less fortunate than you. And that’s why Romney lost.

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  • Steve 07/11/12 #

    Surprised this McGuirk guy is showing his face in public after his election coverage on Twitter in recent weeks.

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  • you are what you say your not. Stop telling lies conservatives. The gig is up, the emperor has got no clothes.

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  • So your saying conservatives need to be more liberal. Science is about changing things, moving forward and exploring new ideas. Gay and Women’s rights are fundamentally liberal ideas so to say that conservatives need to embrace these or already do is unfair to those who do believe in freedom.

    By it’s very definition Conservatives want to keep things as they are

    con·serv·a·tive
       [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv]
    adjective
    disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

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  • Here’s a mad tip John, conservative men, such as yourself, stop lecturing women on what they should do with their bodies in the case of rape/ unwanted pregnancy etc. Maybe then I could read that piece and take you seriously!

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    • I believe the argument is what is their bodies, not wether anyone should lecture women for the craic.

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    • I don’t think Murdock or Akin found it to be a lot of craic. And again, regardless of whether or not Republicans believe abortion is wrong, young women do not. And they won’t win our votes with the strategy.

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    • Conor, I genuinely have no idea what that comment is supposed to mean!

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    • A lot of pro choicers like to frame the debate on abortion like its old men telling young women what to do with their bodies when inherent in that there is an assumption that it is their bodies we’re arguing about at all stages in pregnancy. It’s absurd, non-constructive and just a straw man.

      BTW I’m very pro choice I just think that argument makes the whole pro choice side look illiterate. “Its our body and we’ll do with it what we want” is probably a less coherent argument than “fertilized egg=life”. If your going to be on the correct side of a debate don’t be alarmist.

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    • No, still have no idea what you’re on about. I was going to get into a big explanation of my point but I’m not even going to bother to be honest, you seem like the kind of guy that’ll just come up with some other counter argumentative incoherent malarky!

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    • At all points in the pregnancy, a foetus is in a woman’s body. Which is why women find it insulting that, as you have just done, a serious change and possible harmful effects to our bodies is ignored.

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  • Hopefully conservatism dies. It’s outdated and serves no purpose apart from the oppression of minorities and the pandering to free market capitalism that has failed so miserably. Do i even need to post links to the youtube videos of Romney’s extremist religious rants about parting seas? You and your ilk are on the way out and not a minute too soon.

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    • Rommney lost this election because of cultural ignorence.He does not understand that in 2012 you cannot take womans human rights away,nor the rights of any other minority groups including denying the gay community their rights to love whoever the wish. But Romney lost this too on an economic level. This is the proplem for all capitalists countries, If we distroy the working class and the middle classes who, and this is very short sighted of thses governments,simply, who will have the money to buy the cheap shit these hugh mult inationals produce. I am not talking today or tomorrow, but in the future.They I believe will distroy themselves, but in doing so, they will cause millions of people untold suffering. The banks and big business need to be stopped. I am glad that the American stopped Romney and his cronnies. I dont think the American people had much choice in this election. but they have chosen hunan right over economics.And they have to be respected for this.

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    • who is taking women’s ‘human rights’ away? are you just buying into the ‘war on women’ rhetoric?

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    • I have a constitutional right to access a safe and legal abortion. Birth control has been shown to be basic preventative health care. I (and as shown last night) and the majority of young single women won’t vote for someone who disagrees with that. Now you (who appears to not be a young single woman) might disagree that there’s a “war on women”, but so long as you believe in limiting abortion access and disassociating contraception from other basic health care, you will not win our votes.

      Now, you’re welcome to say “the war on women is ridiculous”, but you won’t win our votes that way. And last time I checked, you needed them.

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    • the war on women is ridiculous

      facts are facts

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    • You know that Obama got a slightly lower share of women’s votes than in 2008 right?

      Also, I hadn’t realised Mitt Romney wanted to reverse all those things you mentioned, but it is a sad day when contraception is considered ‘healthcare’.

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    • Indeed. The facts are that Republican state legislatures have brought in many bills to restrict women’s abortion access and seek to exempt some employers from having to pay for insurance which will provide birth control. You might think it’s ridiculous, but then how about people like Paul Ryan stop trying to bring things like the personhood amendment? You want our votes and for us to focus on the economy? Stop being so obsessed with our reproductive systems.

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    • Obama won amongst young single women by 40 points – one of the largest margins ever.

      Mitt Romney supports overturning Roe v Wade. I was raised by two Republicans – I respect libertarian views of conservatism. But this idea that government should be just small enough to fit into my uterus? Not consistent.

      And I’m sorry you disagree with medical opinion, but it isn’t really up to you if birth control is medically necessary. It’s for medical researchers and our gynecologists.

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    • Surely the government shouldnt force anyone to act in a way that is contrary to their religious beliefs, so why should the government be able to force people to pay for anothers contraception. At a minimum the government should protect all humans from murder and hold people responsible for their actions. Look if a war against women is asking them to respect the sanctity of life then its equivalent to saying that its a war against crinminals when we ask them to not mug someone.

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    • Oh, so by “small government which doesn’t interfere” you mean “government big enough to force women to obey by my views of when a life begins, despite the contrary view of the Constitution.” Just checking.

      If you actually believed in small government, you’d believe in the government not interfering in a private decision determined by conscience. But you don’t, which is why you can’t win young single women’s votes.

      The government ignores people’s religious beliefs all the time. I’m a Quaker, when was the last time you spoke out against me being forced to fund the defence budget? Or is it just different when it’s contraception?

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    • I think on another point, treating contraception as a medical intervention just medicalises our sexuality

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    • If the constitution says 2 + 2 =9 it doesnt mean that 2+2= 9

      I would agree on your religious objection why should you fund the armed forces.

      The very minimum a government should do is protect the rights of all living humans, not just those who have votes

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    • I’m sure women who are on various hormonal based birth controls for everything from endometriosis to Polycystic Ovary Syndrome really appreciate you telling us that it’s not a medical intervention. We really appreciate you thinking the government should be big enough to evaluate how valid it is.

      Again, you’re welcome to have these opinions. You’ll just keep losing elections if you fail to return to the authentic Republican “small government” roots.

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    • There is no scientific or philosophical concensus that life begins at conception. That is your opinion. You believe your opinion should be enforced on others. Which requires a big government. Therefore, you are not a traditional conservative.

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    • Nick the use of the cOCP for PCOS etc is a medical intervention but its use in a healthy women so she wont get pregnant is not. Last time I checked pregnancy is not a pathology.

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    • Please, male person, tell me about how pregnancy cannot have any ill health effects! None at all.

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    • Also Life does begin at conception this is a biological fact. Even abortion supporters like PZ myers and Peter Singer concede this. As would anyone who has studied basic science.

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    • A pregnancy is not a pathology it is physiological. Pathology may result from pathology like running may cause tendon pathology

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    • sorry running is physiological

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    • It’s an opinion. As acknowledged by the European Court of Human Rights, the US Supreme Court. Not to mention that scientists and doctors (those with in depth knowledge of fetal development) are more pro choice than the average Irish population. So far from a settled fact.

      There is a place in American politics for a conservative alternative. But those who support a big government which enforces its views on sexuality is not it. And as long as Republicans position themselves as such, they won’t win.

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    • Ah, so you admit there are legitimate medical reasons women need birth control.

      Again, you don’t support small government if you want to position yourself in the doctors office with a woman.

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    • Well once again you conflate law and scientific fact.

      As a medical doctor and researcher I am telling you that all those who understand basic biology admitt that novel life begins at conception or some point there abouts.

      Your attitude and elitist ” ot to mention that scientists and doctors (those with in depth knowledge of fetal development) are more pro choice than the average Irish population” will be the down fall of liberals in the US

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    • I dont understand your point pregnancy is not a pathology it is a lifestyle choice to use the OCP etc to prevent pregnancy. Big government should not force people to pay for lifestyle choices they dont agree with.

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    • Oh, well, I guess if you think it’s definitely a life, the fact that doctors are disproportionate pro choice no longer matters. The downfall of liberals? Which is why we just lost the election, most Americans oppose legal abortion and you win the votes of young women?

      Oh, wait… None of that is true… And you are no small government advocate.

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    • A weak republican candidate verus the cool kid
      I think the reps dont have anything to worry about

      As for docs being pro choice. Well maybe that is influenced by the finicial sakes, docs do get paid to perform abortions. Either way docs aint god and this doesnt change the fact that abortion kills a living human being.

      Keep the illogical Logorrhea coming

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    • Nick are you American? If not them you didn’t win shit.

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    • I am, actually. Are you?

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    • I like all the red thumbs I guess liberals only like convenient facts

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    • And that’s fine, Neil. You’re entitled to your beliefs. You’re just rapidly losing the support of the American public. But hey, it’s not like the Republican party WANTED women to vote for them.

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    • (I thinks he’s just out for an evening troll)

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    • Nick that is a very childish comment.
      PS Novel life at conception is a fact not a belief
      You’re argument would be stronger if you didnt deny this fact

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    • Incredibly untrue. But that’s funny, I was under the impression that you were trying to convince women to vote Republican. You’re exactly as good at it as Murdock, Akin and all the other charming gentlemen who found themselves legitimately shut down.

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    • No and I thank god I’m from Ireland. I went to New York once and will never go back to that side of the Atlantic again.

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    • Thanks Nick Im not the one denying facts
      Im glad you are so happy that Obama won against a weak republician candidate by a massive drop from 2008
      Also I think more people will be voting Rep when they listen to angry deluded liberals like you speak

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    • Neil, they make me go more to the right every day.

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    • I was once thought I was left then I listened to what the left actually says
      that and maybe the sense I gained as I grew older

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    • Yes, really, your defeat is a victory in disguised! How dare other people think it’s a defeat. Young women aren’t voting for you because you use big government to force your views on us, but because Romney just wasn’t conservative enough. You go with that one next time, see how well it works out.

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    • Nick, Obama won by a landslide the last time and this time he struggled to beat a poor rep candidate.

      Asking people to be socially responsible is not an evil act.
      Allowing women to terminate novel life for convenience just to win votes is pretty evil.

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    • Then you’ll feel righteous from your unelectable pedestal, won’t you? Where you try to convince women that not spending our entire married lives pregnant is a “lifestyle choice” and wonder why we don’t want you representing us.

      The modern Republican Party lacks half the credibility of Gary Johnson and the libertarians.

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    • Nick demanding that someone pay for your contraception (for the sole reason so you can have sex and not get pregnant) is like me demanding that someone pay for my beer.

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    • Yes, it’s exactly like that. Me not wanting to suffer the ill-health effects that can often result from pregnancy is so like you wanting someone to pay for your beer.

      It’s more like me wanting someone to pay for my Nicotine patch so I don’t die of lung cancer, but hey, god forbid we challenge your assumption that sex is recreational as opposed to a natural human response like shitting or eating.

      Again, the inability of male Republicans to understand women is so perfectly encapsulated by your view. No wonder Obama won so historically amongst young women.

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    • Why should anyone pay for patches for you? Buy your own!

      This is what I don’t like about the left, they want everything handed to them but are the first to cry when governments make cuts.

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    • I disagree with financial conservatives, but I have respect for those who take a libertarian viewpoint. What is ridiculous is people like Neil claiming they support a small government – except for the issues that THEY disagree with. Then suddenly they’re all about government interference.

      It’s not winning elections.

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    • Nick, contraception is not healthcare. The fact that some hormone based birth controls are used for medical reasons is an entirely separate issue, it is not their primary function, and I doubt you could find any ‘medical opinion’ to say otherwise. I’m glad you agree that it is for doctors and gynaecologists to decide whether contraception is medically necessary, though. When it isn’t, people should pay for it themselves.

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    • People actually do pay for their health care premiums. It’s ridiculous that taking contraception (which is preventative health care – not that you would know anything about being pregnant, but it can have a myriad of ill effect on a woman’s health). That’s leaving out the fact that it makes more financial sense to cover contraception so as to avoid paying for pregnancies women don’t want (far more expensive) and as Neil has shown, Republicans consider married couples having sex to be a “lifestyle choice” and instead of looking at it in a clear medical and financial manner, want to press their values.

      Which is why single women don’t vote for you.

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    • You haven’t a clue , do you know what the word conservative means , the origins of the word ?
      Look it up….
      If conservatism is dead then so is civilisation .
      Conservatism is much more than any current batch of elected reps.

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    • As John McGuirk argues and I agree – conservatism is far from dead and it certainly has a place. But the modern Republican party is not conservative. That role has been usurped by the Libertarian Party. Social activism is big government, not conservatism.

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    • the ‘you don’t know because you’re not a woman’ argument is wearing thin – I am a parent, are you? I much prefer your idea of letting gynaecologists decide what’s necessary and what isn’t. And I don’t dispute that pregnancy brings myriad health problems, so does playing rugby but I don’t expect anyone to pay me not to do it. I wouldn’t want to restrict ANY of a woman’s healthcare needs in any way, actually, but the argument is really over whether asking someone to pay for something themselves is ‘restricting’ it; it depends on how you look at it.

      That opinion has little to do with the specific nature of women’s health and everything to do with the view that ‘health insurance’ should be for emergency care rather than day to day or routine healthcare, which would make it a lot cheaper. I wonder is such a thing available in the US ?

      That said, it’s not an issue I’d want to define conservatism on, mostly because I’m on the libertarian end of things anyway, but also it’s probably something on which common ground could easily be found that keeps everyone happy. But I do agree with you that social activism/big government is neoconservatism rather than something I would like to see become the mainstream.

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    • Health insurance is paid for in the US. So all of these women are simply asking that birth control being covered under premiums (which would actually save their health care company money, since birth control is far cheaper than pregnancy) without employers being allowed to interfere.

      And I have been pregnant, so yes, I do know a bit more about pregnancy than you. The idea that it never has serious effects on a woman’s health is just silly.

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  • Sean C 07/11/12 #

    They need to drop the lunatic fringe tea party.

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  • The conservetives are anti-science, anti-rights and anti-women. It is just now they are faced with the stark reality that those things are losing stratagies, increasinly so with the younger demographics. This is just political spin, conservatives have realised they need to distance themselves from those unpopular positions if they want to gain power in the future and this is just the first step in that process.

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  • dna30 07/11/12 #

    Big Bird is not a cartoon character.

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  • We cannot continue to be seen as the anti-gay, anti-women, anti-environment, anti-children, pro-bombing-the-hell-out-of-everything people,

    “Be Seen” are the really telling words here, so long as they are seen to promote ideals of equality and fairness, they will get elected. Then they can legislate against gay people, women, children, en-rich the rich and jolly well bomb the hell out of everyone who is not a White Anglo-Saxon Christian.

    I can’t believe this “Charactor” stood for election to Dail Eireann

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    • Doesn’t it all sound so lovely? Can’t you just imagine how a comfortable middle-class American family would see this as the ultimate societal ideal and vote accordingly?
      This is an important article in that we get a strong insight into the mindset of the far Right, and only by understanding can we learn to cooperate. It’s also important because it illustrates the fundamental naivety of Republicanism – the belief that society can still function where loyalty is to the family and the dollar, with no societal obligations to detract from the comfort of that unit.
      It’s a lovely, fuzzy, fundamentally flawed world view that a majority of the American electorate have just chosen not to buy in to. But it is no less dangerous to the future health of societal cooperation and democratic accountability for that.

      http://www.perspectivesbyjack.com

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  • Load of crap

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  • Culture war? Really? Is that what it’s being called now?

    I think any other sane human being would call this presidential election a victory for common sense.

    The ”conservatives” gave us a man called Mitt who wears ”magic underwear.”

    Folks, if that’s the best you can come up with, just call it a day. Let sensible people run the world.

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    • The term ‘Culture War’ has been used for decades. It really kicked off with Pat Buchanan in 1992:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9gSWZxtN1g

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    • John, are you the same pro-Romney chap who was on the Panel on The Frontline the other night? Because that fella appeared to have mixed up Ludwig Wittgenstein and the Republican candidate, saying that good old Mitt gave away all but 100 grand of his enormous inheritance from his father to put himself through college and build up his fortune again. Considering that by the time his father passed away in 1995 that Mitt was already a millionaire many times over from his Gekkoesque exploits at Bain Capital and was actually pushing 50, I think you’ll agree that his frat-boy days were well behind him and that the accuracy of such Romney altruism assertions was distinctly lacking. What I’d say is that those were founded as much in fact as this airy-fairy article you’ve penned, with its blithe disregard for the hand that eight years of conservative economics dealt Obama and non-sequitur zingers such as “Conservatism has never been about resisting change”.

      Take a couple of Alka Seltzer and sleep this off, John. Tomorrow’s another day.

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    • For John McGuirk, not Connolly.

      Carry on.

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  • Isn’t it funny that Neil now puts Obama win down to the republicans weak candidate? Not democracy?
    Democracy won . The people of the US have spoken. I wonder if many republicans wouldn’t be so bitter in defeat if the colour of Obama’s skin was different?

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  • Niall 07/11/12 #

    So basically, a conservative wont win an election again, until he/she becomes a liberal?

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  • Romney lost because tiring rhetoric was more empty and vacuous than his opponent. It gets to a point where there just aren’t enough stupid people to go around. Obama was the lesser of two evils both for America and the rest of us.
    Romney would have finished the job Bush jr started.
    Now’s a time for more acceptance and latitude and the healing of wounds not the ripping open of new ones.
    The leopard cannot change his spots, nor can the Republican hawks.

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  • GOP need to stop pandering to the Tea Party and the ultra-conservative Christian right otherwise the Democrats will become the party of government. Twice ,now in succession (2010 and 2008) the selection of Tea Party candidates for marginal Senate seats have cost the party control of the Senate and the whole congress. The party needs to move much more closer to the centre ground, whilst remaining centre right or otherwise the will continue to lose the support of moderates and independents and be stuck out of power.

    Obama won with African-American, Jewish, Hispanic, female, young and educated voters, all of which are increasing in their proportion of the electorate. A failure to start winning over some of these groups will only make Republicans increasingly unelectable. It is clear from the last two elections, the electorate do no appreciate, the Republican Party’s, lurch to the right.

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    • The times they are a changing…slowly and with great difficulty. Let’s hope that in the next four years the Iran issue is resolved peacefully and that a new argument of collective survival ensues, surely we all hope for that.

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  • And if the economy recovers significantly in the next 4 years, you can bet there will be another Democrat in the White House next term.

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  • Complete rhetoric and spin. There is more concern here about ‘being seen as’ anti women, anti-science and anti-homosexual’ rather than actually facing up to these ridiculous positions and dealing with them openly.

    The fact is a massive number of Americans believe in creationism over evolution, don’t believe in global warming full stop, are completely against equal right for homosexuals and would rather see a rape victim forcibly carry a pregnancy to term instead of seeking an abortion, (hardly trusting that the individual knows best) … and yet they have been willingly pandered to by the Republican movement.

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    • Ireland should be the last country to criticize when talking about social policies and science. Ireland is the most religious European country and still has killings in the North over religion. Ireland also is the worst European country along with Poland when it comes to abortion. Ive come across a number of Irish religious lunatics on Atheist FB pages. Abortion is legal in America and gay marriage is legal in a number of US states. America also has public schools which are free of religion and no public money goes into any churches. Ireland has a lot of work to do. Whats also interesting is that Ireland doesn’t have a pot to piss in but yet gives millions in aid to Uganda and other horrible countries.

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  • I’ve watched John’s media performances over the past few years and I think he’s slowly becoming more and more unhinged.

    This is an article by a man struggling with his own identity. I don’t understand why he lives in Ireland when he clearly aspires to be American. Pathetic.

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  • Conservatives need to return to their libertarian positions. Regardless of what people might think, young people who aren’t really affected by things such as taxes and health care, are affected by social issues regarding family and friends which conservatives do not connect with.

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  • “We lost the culture wars”

    Translation: We opposed every progressive and empancipatory change in history. We opposed civil rights for blacks, equal rights for gay people and women; but hey: there’s no votes in all of that any more so let’s pretend we’re not complete bigots and we might get back into power.

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    • Can you back up any of that statement?
      who’s the ‘we’?
      Complete misunderstanding of virtually the whole of history there. Typical liberal view, all change happens because of liberals, and the people who oppose change must be ‘conservatives’. What about all the changes of which you disapprove? who is responsible for those? or do you think history only moves in one direction?
      By what definition was Abraham Lincoln a ‘liberal’? What about William Wilberforce? Emmeline Pankhurst?

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  • Conservatives really have no intellectual or moral case anymore. They really are the emperor with no clothes.

    Despite John’s appealing rhetoric of inclusivity and tolerance, the historical reality is that Conservatives at best feel uncomfortable around ethnic minorities and women and at worst hate and fear them. It was in recent memory that the young Tories in the 1980s were wearing “Hang Nelson Mandela” t-shirts. At that time, the Conservatives in the UK and the Republicans in the US were actively supporting apartheid in South Africa and doing everything they could to hold back the avalanche of social change that the 60s ushered in where women were treated as equals instead of being consigned to being nothing more than “brood mares for the state” in a patriarchal society.

    These progressive social changes came about because of massive left wing pressure where a coalition of activists, feminists, civil rights agitators, socialists, environmentalists trade unionists, liberals and students came out onto the streets in force to demand a more equal and sane society for all.

    Conservatives talk about how there should be cuts in social spending and plead for a smaller role in government and let the market work its magic.
    Yet they were the first to the queue with the begging bowl out for government largesse looking for massive bank bailouts.

    John is a smart guy so he has had to dilute down his conservative rhetoric so that what he is writing here could be found on the pages of the Liberal Democrats party manifesto.

    The grim reality is that Republican party, and it’s propaganda cheerleaders in Fox News, have lurched so far to the extreme right in recent years that it bears little resemblance to anything other than a narrow, xenophobic and reactionary movement.

    The Republicans could have arguably won if they selected Dr.Ron Paul as he would have appealed to disaffected Democratic voters in swing states and he polled very well with young voters. Hyper articulate and a persuasive speaker, Ron Paul was by far the most impressive candidate in the Republican primaries and by far the most informed of the issues.

    His ostensibly liberal policies of supporting gay marriage, ending the disastrous war on drugs, winding down the US empire by closing the 700 US military bases that are dotted around the globe, the cessation of special treatment for Israel and stopping the insane policy of pumping trillions of tax-payers money into criminal Wall Street banks meant that he was beyond the pale for the Republican establishment.

    So Ron Paul was smeared, traduced, sneered at and ultimately silenced by the mainstream media despite his popularity.

    He was the most electable of the Republicans and he is far more impressive than Obama, who is really just Republican lite. In some areas Obama is worse than George W Bush.
    Whereas Bush used to kidnap and torture people, Obama simply murders them with drone strikes, even if they are US citizens. This is an appalling precedent.

    The reality is that the US president has very little power as they are in thrall to vested interests and lobby groups. You don’t become president by spending $1 billion dollars and then not expect a few favours to be called in.

    The culture wars were nothing but a useful distraction. The Republicans could never get white working class voters to vote against their interests so they create these non-issues to pander to their most base prejudices. The Republicans may as well just go all out for it and put Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber on the presidential ticket next time.

    The American public are well to the left of their media and their political representatives so they have to be bludgeoned into submission so that they will be frightened into obediently going along with the status quo.
    In an era of media fragmentation, this policy is not working any more as we saw with the mass uprising last year with the Occupy Movement. You only have to look at how a majority of Americans supported the Occupy movement in polling to see how unpopular and intellectually and morally bankrupt conservatism is.

    What really matters is what is happening in relation to Wall Street, what is happening to US global military power and what is happening with Israel and the Middle East.

    The answer is that both Romney and Obama share much more common ground with each other than on these critical issues than they do with Ron Paul.

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    • Very good comment, Will. But Ron Paul is a market fundamentalist. He advocates practically no government: that means granny starves and dies if she can’t afford healthcare, it means no social safety net, it means a mean, nasty, ultra-individualist society.

      That he wants to dismantle the empire is great, but his libertarianism is very much of a right-wing variety.

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    • I’m confused,
      “Conservatives talk about how there should be cuts in social spending and plead for a smaller role in government and let the market work its magic.
      Yet they were the first to the queue with the begging bowl out for government largesse looking for massive bank bailouts.”

      Aren’t you talking about entirely different groups of people there, or are you yet another poster who is just defining ‘conservatives’ as ‘people I don’t like’? which would be a shame because you sound well-informed. Although you would need to also be psychic to be able to know how ‘conservatives’ ‘feel’ around ethnic minorities. Many conservatives ARE ethnic minorities.
      But, a racist is a racist. If a racist happens to vote conservative, it’s no more the fault of the rest of conservatives than it would be the labour movements fault if he voted Labour, is it?

      On another point I can’t stress strongly, conservatism is a set of principles NOT a set of conclusions. I happen to support same-sex marriage, for example, for conservative and libertarian reasons.

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  • The problem with both parties is that neither represent actual “freedom”. The Republicans are horrible in social policies and the Democrats are horrible in economic policies. The Libertarian Party which is socially liberal and fiscally conservative has been constantly silenced by both parties and the media never gives them any air time. As for the people mocking the idea of American Conservatives embracing more tolerant positions to social issues that is simply moronic. European Centre-Right parties? David Cameron? Ring a bell? There are numerous American Republicans that are socially liberal and many Democrats that are socially conservative. So much for generalizations/stereotypes. I personally think Romney lost because he didn’t distance himself from the right-wingers, isn’t like able, and his remark that 47% of the country are bums while the country is in a recession isn’t exactly going to win people over.

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    • Michael 08/11/12 #

      Absolutely nailed it. Finally some sense in this place

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    • Libertarians are best summed up in one word: “Selfish”. They are the most selfish people on the face of the earth. They want to drive on your roads, but don’t want to pay for them. They use your libraries, but don’t want to pay for them. They send their children to your schools, but complain about fees.
      That’s why Libertarians aren’t taken seriously by most Americans. They’re selfish, self-involved people.
      The thing is, Libertarians have never had to live in a world of their own making. A libertarian society doesn’t exist, and for good reason. It would fall apart, because for some reason, libertarians don’t understand that GREED is a big part of human nature they don’t factor into their equations.

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  • If this race was to be won by economics then Romney’s and Ryan’s commitment to light touch, NCM-model, theoretical economics was their death knell. The repeal of Glas-Steagal, the sub prime mortgatge market and the popularity of securitisation took place under both Democratic and Republican presidents. The fact is most policy makers don’t understand economic policy, and they are judged on their other attributes. Romney had none, and Ryan comes across as a terrifying sociopath. Women, gay people and non-whites are not freakish anomalies! Republicans/conservatives shouldn’t need a new policy, a think tank, a party revival or a new perspective to start considering them as equal to middle class, educated white men! It might be a bit late for a wake up call. But I’d definitely go to the wake.

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  • As usual, John McGuirk is wrong. Conservatism is not dead. It will just have to do what it has always done: move a little bit forward, and stand its ground there.
    This is how it works:
    Conservatives want to keep things the way they are. Things have worked pretty well for generations, they argue. We don’t want to mess with that.
    Liberals or progressives want to change things. Everything is broken, they scream. We need revolution.
    Both of these opposing forces are necessary. They pull at society and force us to confront issues. Eventually, enough of society is pulling in the same direction that things creep – or lurch forward. The baseline is redefined.
    Without conservatives saying: “Hold on a minute” every mad idea would get implemented and we’d have chaos. Without the liberals shouting in the streets for more freedom, we’d be living in caves.
    Martin Luther King Jr. said: “The arc of the moral universe is slow. But it bends towards justice.” Without conservatives holding it back, it would be faster, but who knows what way it would bend?

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  • There was me thinking he (Romney) had lost because of his links to the Iran- contra affair???

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  • Funny how so many the pampered, rich, ‘out of touch with ordinary humankind’ hollywood and music celebrities (many of them the 1%) supported Obama, isn’t it?? Why??

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  • neil would u shut up and get back to getting leeds bk in premiership marching on together lufc

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  • Very much agree. And if the ignorance expressed in the first few comments is anything to go by, Conservatism – both small c and large C – is something that many people are comfortable being both ignorant and bigoted about. The deliberate misrepresentations about those on the Right were things that I among others assumed was just idle rhetoric that most intelligent people would see straight through, but they’ve proved remarkably sticky. The ‘culture’ war really is about ridiculous soundbites and arguments than can fit into a tweet.
    You can fight back against most arguments, but ignorance is always the most powerful enemy.

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  • Alot said here this evening . Very intelligent comments here from everyone . What a wonderful country I live in . Very informed individual points of view. I have no comment to make as I am astounded by both sides of the argument

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  • Appreciate your mailing this (its gone 2am Thursday – brighter for me to study it’s lengthy contents tomorrow after sleeping on it – I guess I could criticise a few of the observations. Implied? Thank you again! :- gehega

    Ph

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  • Referendum is illegall – forget it ?

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  • In other words… you want a conservatism that is stripped of all that is socially conservative but maintains a liberal economic policy… yet you maintain that conservatism is really right… how much political and verbal aerobics are you willing to do in order to avoid facing the fact that you have chosen the wrong course.

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  • I voted for Romney because Obama is making our $16 Trillion dollar deficit even worse. In each of his 4 years he was at least a trillion dollars over budget. We cannot afford him so I thought Romney deserved a chance. Romney lost because here in the USA we have a very pro-Liberal Democrat media. It’s sickeningly obvious. Fox news is the only one that isn’t left wing so all the Liberals attack it while giving the other channels free pass no matter what they do. Sad.

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  • Interesting piece, John. I’d agree with much of it.

    Once again, however, the comments on this don’t seem to based in reality.

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  • Yes the Republicans will get into office again as long as they’re not anti wall street

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  • John, this is a fine piece.

    My two cents: Its commitment to minimal government that has won it for the GOP every time, from the Reagan Revolution to the Contract With America. There is always a ‘culture war’ candidate – Buchanan, Huckabee, Santorum – who makes a lot of noise for a while, does well in the South, and then disappears.

    It was easy for those of us committed to the conservative-libertarian ideal of a society largely self-regulating without massive state intervention to get disenchanted with a race between two men who can both reasonably claim to have invented Obamacare.

    The issue of massive dependence on state welfare should have been what the 2012 election was all about. Thats where Romney had a chance to win. Together with BenghaziGate, Fast and Furious, and Obama’s fundamentally un-American worldview, this should have been a walkover for the Republicans.

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  • yeah, tunewire (funny name that?) cos killing an innocent, harmless, defenceless baby is the perfect way to get revenge on the rapist, isn’t it? What would you say to the thousands of people walking about today that are the product of rapes, including Martin Sheen’s wife?? Would you tell them they should have paid for their biological father’s crime and that they shouldn’t be living a life??

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    • No, just no. Forcing women to go through nine months of pregnancy after an horrific incident like that, just to massage your own judgemental, self righeous ego and project your beliefs onto others shouldl not be allowed in any civillised society. The option should always be available, and choice is hers and hers alone.

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    • Someone’s confusing “I think your mother should have been able to decide how best to heal” with “I think your mother should have been forced to have an abortion against her will.”

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    • Can a comment be reported for ignorance?
      Beyond belief. You’ve mentioned the person that is a “product” of the rape, the rapist, ehm, ever consider taking into account the part of the mother and victim in the narrative?

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  • There are aspects of the ‘culture war’ that need to be fought and one by conservatives.

    I am thinking of the poisonous notion that not wanting to pay for some woman’s birth control makes you ‘anti-women’.

    I am also thinking of the radical shifts and upset caused by mass immigration. Look at the former Republican stronghold of California. Republicans are now stuck at about one-third of the state legislature. This is almost entirely down to the Hispanic influx. Only Americans seem to be stupid enough to import millions of Mexicans into territory won in a war with Mexico and complain about revanchism in their schools. And what happened in California could easily happen in Texas. If that happens, its all over for the GOP.

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    • John, you’re accepting as read that immigrants will vote Democrat – they won’t. Or at least we can’t assume they will. In Canada the Liberal party was surprised to learn that a large enough section of the immigrant population wanted to vote Conservative to help give Harper his current majority. As more and more second generation Americans vote GOP, and they are, it will help balance things out.

      Also, I’m not sure if the ludicrous ‘war on women’ thing actually won Obama any votes – 56% of women voted for him last time with 43% for McCain – this time it was 55 -44. Maybe women voted with their brains and not, as the Democrats hoped, with their ‘lady parts’?

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    • Young single women were more likely to vote for Obama by a much wider margin – almost 40%.

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    • Hispanic voters have become increasingly conservative, especially middle class families. Not to mention the Cuban community has a reputation of being firmly Republican in Florida. Jews and Blacks have largely remained traditionally Democratic voting.

      Hispanics are multiracial and their origins are from different parts of the Spanish speaking world, they are not a monolithic community. I’d imagine they will follow the Irish and Italians in becoming increasingly more affluent and conservative.

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    • The Democratic Party is still dominated by whites and Jews, though reliant on ethnic minorities. But one day, it will be a complete minority interests party. The Democrats have the potential to become a mixture of La Raza and a Jesse Jackson style party, maybe even a Farrakhan party.

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    • The Irish and Italians were always conservative. There were no social issues going back 60 years ago; both parties were socially conservative. The Democratic and Republican Party’s ideologies have really changed the last 50 years along with their bases.

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  • abortion is becoming acceptable and it really shouldn’t be. it is not a handy, little procedure to be swept under the carpet and kept out of sight and out of mind. this is people’s lives we are talking about. I don’t care if this gets 1000 thumbs down. i believe in free speech and i believe that an unborn child has the right to live the same as anyone looking at this page here. romney was soft on abortion because he was told that he had to appear to be to stay popular. the world is one crazy place when a person who supports the rights of the unborn child is ‘right wing’ and ‘lunatic fringe’ and those who support abortion are called ‘liberal’ and thought to be the norm . pathetic so called ‘human rights’ group amnesty international or the useless WHO doesn’t even CARE about the right to life of the unborn. the right to life being the most fundamental ‘right’ that there is. has the world lost it’s conscience when it puts someone’s ‘choice’ over someone elses life??

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  • yeah, Tunewire (first name or second name?) the woman should have the right to kill her baby but only while it’s inside her. Because if she does it a second after birth, instead of a second before birth, it’s murder then and she could be jailed for it. It is you who are massaging your ego putting someone’s ‘choice’ before someone else’s life. An unborn has the right to live too. Why not use your own name if you stand by your beliefs and comments or why are you hiding behind a childish anonymous name?

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    • Are you incapable of responding underneath the same comment as this is the third new thread you’ve created? I am not obliged to provide personal information to comment, no more than you are required to let us all know about your fantastic and inspirational folksy artwork.

      There really is no point in arguing with you on this one, there is no grey, only black and white for you. You don’t understand the concept that you are not in a position to judge or dictate the difficult decisions that people in extremely emotionally charged and often vulnerable situations make. This is something that Democrats and moderate Republicans alike agree on in the US. Pro-choice is supported consistently on a 2:1 basis there.

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    • Obama is playing at being lefty whilst really sticking to bush policies. We are heading for a reaganite Thatcherite decade sadly

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    • Obama and Bush are nothing alike. Defending America is not a “Bush” thing it’s an American thing. If anything Obama has been very weak when it comes to foreign policy. He has extended the hand of friendship to Middle Eastern countries and as a result has had it bitten and given the Islamists more confidence. His apologizing for America is also very troubling as well; Russia, China, etc. see an incredibly weak/vulnerable country. His appeasement policy has been a complete disaster. At the airport in Cairo they have a huge advertisement where it says “We must educate our children to become like young Egyptian people.” – Barack Obama. I am not sure if he really said that, I really hope he did not; but the advertisement is real at Cairo Airport. I was extremely annoyed/worried when I heard he asked Google to take down the anti-Islam video off of YouTube; that is absurd. I hope he has finally learned appeasement doesn’t work with certain people and it only projects a weak/vulnerable America.

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    • censored 08/11/12 #

      Yeh, one is black and the other one is white. Otherwise you’d get them mixed up.

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  • it’s the third or fourth new thread BECAUSE I won’t give thejournal.ie app the permission to post in my name. I post as myself and no bot is going to post as me.

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  • Obama is right wing. And he is hurting the values of anyone who cares about anything beyond their own circle of friends

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  • Michael 08/11/12 #

    They marginalised the liberty wing and paid the price…

    Otherwise they’d have won. The haters will always hate (i.e. people who care about social issues only)

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    • People will always hate the greedy, who only care about their own personal agenda. The greedy are leeches on society. They are destructive and vindictive and inherently evil. They are at odds with the very reasons we form civilization–to protect us from the plundering of barbarians.
      So if the barbarians are riding in Bentleys and reading the financial times, they are still barbarians. It is they, the greedy, who will bring society–and even perhaps the entire planet, down.
      People talk about the “income gap”, the “wealth gap”. Not the republicans in the US however. They never mention that 1% of the population controls 80% of the nation’s assets. That would be inconvenient, and unjustifiable.
      The working families of America have not had a real (corrected for inflation) wage increase in 40 years. My father’s paycheck bought more than mine does. But the wealthy have increased their assets by 80%–and not by working for it–by skimming, by stealing, by manipulation. So let’s get on the hate wagon, brother. There’s plenty of greedy assh*les out there for us to hate. If a few of them got kneecapped, they might start thinking of social issues themselves for a change.

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  • A good insight and I agree with it in broad strokes. We live in a society that has been dumbed down and were people prefer reality tv to reality.
    A slick talking president with great soundbites and excellent social media backup is preferred over a candidate who actually wants to deal with real issues. But such is the curse of democracy. It means that two fools get to tell one smart person what to do….
    For another great analysis of the outcome but this time from someone actually living in the USA you can have a read here: https://evertb.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/so-the-election-was-close

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  • Romney and the republicans are just the american branch of the british tories and Irish fine gael party with the same policies and outlook. Romney if elected as US president would be the Mr Thatcher of US politics and turn America into the newest sweatshop of western Europe.

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