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Column: Watching my parents cope with long-term unemployment

Shaun Dunne, son of a carpet fitter, describes life in the shadow of a time when the working world was different.

Shaun Dunne

Shaun Dunne is the writer and performer of Death of the Tradesmen at ABSOLUT Fringe 2012.

MY NAME IS Shaun Dunne, I’m a 23-year-old theatre-maker from Dublin and as a fully paid-up member of the forgotten generation I’m constantly being questioned about my decision to stay in Ireland.

People seem to think I’ve maybe missed the latest wave of unemployment statistics or opportunity obstacles that come hand in hand with our little island’s fall from economical grace. I haven’t, obviously. I’ve heard and read all about it. I’ve had two sisters and a boatload of friends get up and out of our dirty-old-town for pastures greener, sunnier and altogether more fertile when it comes to finances.

What I find most interesting about these conversations, however are the voices leading them. I remember turning off the news before because there were maybe three pieces to camera involving older men and women who felt it of the utmost importance to tell me and my generation where to go. The fact that this older generation were so fixed on the idea that there was nothing left for my demographic here got me thinking: If they want me to leave, do they themselves want to leave too? Can they not? What’s that like?

I didn’t have to look too far for an answer. Both my parents told me very quickly that if they were twenty years younger they’d be out of here quicker than you can say “Perth”.

My Dad is a carpet fitter. He’s a tradesman. That’s all he’s ever done and when he got his apprenticeship at around 17 he thought he’d won the lottery. Born and raised on Sean McDermott Street he is of a generation of men that were told they would get nowhere in life without a trade. They were typically taken out of school after they were confirmed. They were then often given a paper round or a job selling on a stall in some market – anything at all that might help alleviate some of the financial pressures back home.

‘You can take a trade anywhere’

My Dad tells me that a trade back then was like a scholarship to your college of choice. The men who got lucky with an apprenticeship felt a guaranteed sense of security. After all, you can take a trade anywhere. I don’t need to go into too much detail about the Irish property collapse or lack of work going across the construction industry, but safe to say: when you’re 54 years old and money’s becoming way too tight to mention, there seems to be very few places left for you and your trade.

I think my house is an interesting place to live in at the moment. There are only three of us left including both parents. The sole provider can’t find work and the other two heirs to the throne are on the other side of the world. There’s a famous expression that often gets bandied around: “When poverty walks through the door, love flies up the chimney.”

Without getting all sentimental and Brady Bunch about it, I’m glad to say that that’s not the case with my own family. It’s been difficult the past few years – especially for my Dad – and it’s tough to see him and my Mam try to reconfigure things and make do at their age. (Not that mid-fifties is old but you know what I mean.)

I’m glad to say, however, that my father’s experience means I can’t feel too disillusioned here.

I don’t have children to provide for, I don’t have a mortgage that feels like a rope around my neck – and I still believe that there are plenty of reasons to stay here for a lot of people.

Shaun Dunne’s show Death of the Tradesmen runs from Saturday 8 to Saturday 15 September at Project Arts Centre as part of ABSOLUT Fringe 2012. For further details visit fringefest.com or call 1850 374 643.

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Comments (36 Comments)

  • I was made unemplyed at 25 and it was soul destroying trying to find work and getting nothing. I dont think I can imagine how an older person would feel in the same situation because I knew I had youth on my side and was lucky enough to get into college. Few years later and Im probably better off for it, so the resession has kind of been a double edged sword for me.

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  • Super Shane, same vintage as your parents, we both have been unemployed, and one son working abroad, not at all thorough choice, country lost the run of itself! Hope your all doing ok now.

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  • I have to write up a comment after reading some of the comments on this article! Firstly I think it is total rubbish to go on about the “older generation” been jealous and to turn your back on them etc telling us to leave- I am currently in Australia Shaun is my brother – in my case my mam and dad didn’t say to me “get out of here go to Australia” instead they encouraged me to go
    When I suggested it- my dad wanted me to see and experience things he never seen in
    His life simple as that! Alot of the older generation wouldn’t have had the money to just set off on travels years ago especially if you lived in the inner city family of 9- selling papers to support your family! Shaun is simply highlighting the fact that there was a time in Ireland when all
    U needed was a trade and now that role has been reversed! Also you can’t blame the “older generation” for the fall of economy everybody got too mean in the Celtic boom and wanted more of everything no country could sustain that level of growth at such a fast pace! Well done Shaun a great topic that Is already gettin a lot of feedback ! And Tony my brother does have a job!

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  • Excellent piece. I haveno doubt you will get on well even here in this country.

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  • Good article…hopefully you’ll find some form of work in time. As for older people telling you where you should go???….turn your back on them. It’s these ‘older peope’ who dropped us right in the shite and who even still seem to be under the illusion that they know best for us all….be it in the media or our witless politicians they always seem to have the smug answer. Follow your own mind…this country needs your generation more than you realise because it is you who will power our recovery. I only hope that you all don’t reap too bitter a harvest now being sown.

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    • Tony
      He’s a writer and an actor and your hope that he gets a job soon is patronising. My daughter is an opera singer and they don’t do jobs in the Arts……..but their creativity and skills enrich us all in its form and beauty .

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    • @mick, god forbid your daughter should pay her own way because she’s an “artist”
      Are architects, surgeons, bricklayer etc not also artists?
      Either way, rest assured, if she does get financial reward for her artistry, she can apply for tax exemption.

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    • Mick…you’d prefer I wished him continued unemployment??? Don’t accuse me of patronising this man when I only wish him the best.

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    • No tax exemption for performing artists, though.

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    • Bollox, Tony…I am one of those elder lemmings…and I’m of the generation that took the boat for London at 17.

      Its not an age division. Its a class divide. Driven by ‘who you know’ and who’s back you scratch. And where you’re born and what schools you attended, if any. The media are owned by that class and their children..who will not be found under Charing Cross Bridge, no matter how thick they are. They wheel out their Gaybos and Mike Murphys to sing the praises of faraway greener hills to order. For a fee, of course..the till needs remain greased and greasy.

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  • There may be no work here for trades people but there is plenty once you leave here. A trade isn’t as bad as your making out

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  • I personally think any older person who’s telling you where to go is jealous, they stayed when they were young and waded out previous recessions and this time they would love to go but can’t or won’t. Without being condescending you are a credit to your parents and have a wise head on those young shoulders you are exactly the type we need to stay.

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    • @Tony and yourself. Are your own parents some of these “older people”? who you should turn your backs on?

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    • my parent never wanted to emigrate then or now, I just think its funny people who did what the opposite to what they are preaching by having stayed therefor they must have wanted to leave themselves but didn’t. My parents are also mid 50′s so not old or older. I work with people I’m their 70′s 80′s and 90′s and it is to them I refer hence the use of recessions.

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    • @Sean…I was refering to those ‘older people’ that are in power ( a term I use loosely) such as media hacks and politicians.

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  • @Aleo I am a nurse who came to Australia in 1981 when there was a severe recession here and believe me it was not all fun.My husband walked the streets of Perth for weeks looking for a job ..I was 21 and pregnant ..he was 25. I left behind 12 brothers and sisters.My father was very ill and my Mum trying to make ends meet. My point is that whilst you have a right to expect life to be easy sometimes it is not. You have to pick yourself up and look forward and make the most of what you’ve got. I have many nieces and nephews with exceptional qualifications still living off their parents in Ireland. No one owes you a living or a good life. We wish it for you but you must get off your butts and go for it. Come out here..we’ll look after you..the Irish who’ve been through it already..I give you my word on that!

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  • nice article, totally agree wit d all too familiar patronising conversation “wud u not go to austrailia”. different scenario but its abit like at a wedding when the old ones (again its d oldr generation!) start at u “ur next” or ” when are u gona settle down”!! feck off, as mrs brown wud say!!

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  • Hi Sarah. Good article by your brother and one that needs far more discussion. Successive governments down through the history of this state have relied on forced emigration as a safety valve, instead of doing something real to generate employment. I say fair dues to any of the tens of thousands like yourself who have upped sticks and made a new life in the far corners of the world but it also disgusts me how this is portrayed by treacherous politicians as a “lifestyle choice” instead of an absolute economic necessity. I feel sorry for all those families torn apart, missed occasions, grandchildren seen once a year etc. I feel sorry for anyone who is forced to leave their home, family and friends because they cannot see a future in Ireland. I also applaud all those who stick around despite this and I hope they will remain strong and fight every self-destructive, self-serving policy by the government which makes our situation worse. There are plenty of positive things that could be done to generate employment in the tens if not the hundreds of thousands if the political will existed that would benefit the trades and those of all ages within them. For example, instead of the continuous despicable wastage of billions of taxpayers money thrown at the institutions who caused this crisis and those financial gamblers who took the risk and then left all of us with the bill – if the state invested this money instead in a massive national programme of public works, investing in our schools, hospitals, upgrading our water pipe system, retro-fitting of buildings with energy and water conservation schemes, investment in renewable energy etc. – a huge amount of jobs could be created with a worthwhile and sustainable future. These projects would then feed into the service industries around the country and create more jobs in hospitality, retail and other associated areas. Can I just make one point on one of your quotes I disagree with. You said “everybody got too mean in the Celtic boom and wanted more of everything no country could sustain that level of growth at such a fast pace!” I don’t believe “everybody” got mean or greedy. A very small amount of people made a huge amount of money building houses and apartments all over the country and selling them for extortionate prices. People in their 20s and 30s were encouraged to put these massive mortgage nooses around their necks for fear of not “getting on the ladder”. Even at the height of the boom two thirds of the population were only earning the average industrial wage. We were told every day in the media how “wealthy” Ireland was and how well we were all doing. So in reality it was inevitable that some people would get themselves into debt trying to live up to that expectation and a certain vicious cycle of keeping up with the Jones’s happened. Most of us just struggled to get by paying the ridiculous prices for everything in rip-off Ireland. Now that the crash has happened and we’ve had almost 5 years of recession we’re still struggling. But it’s getting harder every day with the austerity agenda which says the working poor and unemployed must be crucified more and more to pay for the gambles of the rich. This continued madness will mean those who left Ireland may never get the chance to return. For their sakes and our sakes we have to say “Enough is Enough” and reclaim our future from the government and the banks.

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    • redbarn 07/09/12 #

      Great comment MarkandAnna. As you rightly point out most of us just struggled to get by and it was the working poor and unemployed who bore the brunt. I love the idea of job creation for a sustainable future. Sounds a bit too creative for politicians with more of an eye on the next election than any long term plan though, but we live in hope. I have a link to a piece I wrote myself below if you care to have a peek and add your sensible two-cents worth. Somebody needs to make a bit of noise and rattle the cages of complacency.

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  • a recent survey in england said 45 per cent of those unemployed would not consider a job in hospitality as it would not avail of their it skills etc but yet will claim unemployment beneift and yet this is one sector that is labour intensive but since the boom years celtic pubs believe serving pints and food is below them. There is loads of part-time / casual bar/restaurant work in ireland yet irish refuse to take them up or work.

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    • Do you realise that most of the time when you work part time and still claim the percentage of the dole you’re still entitled to that you are only about €10 euro a week better off than just not working part time? And do you realise that these waiting jobs DO NOT EXIST outside of the tourist season? There are dozens of people applying for each job every time one come up. People aren’t being snobs about the work they’ll take; there just simply aren’t enough for everyone in this country at the moment, end of story.

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  • Can’t give advice. But if I was to I would regurgitate ” don’t believe of what you hear ANC none of what you see !!! “

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  • redbarn 07/09/12 #

    As a 57-year-old I consider myself quite young Shaun. Lovely piece of writing and congratulations on articulating it so clearly and contributing to an important debate.

    I wrote an opinion piece myself, on more or less the same topic, albeit looked at from a different perspective which was published in a rival organ yesterday. I am pasting the link for anyone interested http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0906/1224323653645.html
    Please log on and feel free to agree or disgree but let your voice be heard.

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  • 27,000 jobs up for grabs in W.A ..thousands of nursing jobs all over Oz..that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Off your butts kids and to the airport! We did..30 yrs ago ..best decision ever.Stop bludging on your parents!

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  • Well done Shaun on writing this article, if only more of your generation and age where even remotely interested in the state of their country or even having the respect for their parents that you obviously do. As I am commenting on this piece the lad next door to me has his music pumping lying on the broad of his back! Do I blame his parents NO I blame the state for allowing him to be paid while he does this? In my husband’s day when he left school like your dad he was made go to work with his father and learn a trade because in them days (20yrs ago) a young adult didn’t get to lie in bed all day! I think the system in this country is a disgrace the generation like your father and mine who worked and paid into the economy are now the people who are suffering financially in this recession. We (Ireland) have done our bit for charity and asylum seekers we now need to look after our own. When my kids get to an age where they can work they will, if they want to travel I will encourage them for the simple reason for the experience and to broaden their horizons, travel is a fantastic thing its educating and teaches independence – will I be happy if they HAVE TO leave the country just to live and get a job NO. I think your parents should be proud of you for even taking the time and interest to understand how they got to where they are today, you and your siblings are fending for yourselves whether it’s here or abroad which proves your parents even with the struggle of long term unemployment have done a good job in raising you! I wish you every luck in the future……..

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  • Peter 06/09/12 #

    “a fully paid-up member of the forgotten generation” except for the fact you fail to mention that the tax payer funded you to write this… and i dont feel it was well spent

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