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Column: I love RTÉ, but I don’t want an internet tax to pay for it

Is the ‘household broadcasting charge’ really the best we can do to support the Irish media, asks Paul Quigley.

Paul Quigley

Minister for Communications Pat Rabbitte recently reiterated his commitment to the idea of a ‘household media charge’ to replace the TV licence fee and fund RTÉ. But Paul Quigley of media tracking firm newswhip.com has some concerns:

FEW WOULD DOUBT the cultural importance of RTE. As a child of the late 20th century, probably half my understanding of Ireland came through RTE’s channels. Everything from Fortycoats to Italia 90 to the Late Late Toy Show. (I know I sound nostalgic, but try to write about RTE without getting nostalgic.) It’s been our cultural repository for the last 50 years. When finally it digitises and opens up its archives, we’ll have an amazing lens to understand our nation in the 20th century.

But as people of the younger generations scrap their TVs and power up their smartphones, the Department of Communications has a bit of a pickle. RTE must be paid for. And with scamps like me taking no interest in television and hence not being eligible to be hit with a licence fee, well, something must be done. Minister for Communications Pat Rabbitte said so lately in a speech. And an internet tax – possibly rebranded as a “household media charge” – is in the pipeline.

The Irish Times recently reported that ”[t]he licence fee regime is set to be reformed by the Government, with Mr Rabbitte’s department expecting that a replacement household broadcasting charge will generate higher income as a result of a more efficient collection mechanism.” It appears that having any sort of media in your home – whatever the technology – will soon cost you the price of a licence fee. Given that the only meaningful media today is internet access, it looks like we’re facing an internet tax, albeit one with a more homely sounding name.

Laptops and smartphones

I have plenty of grá for RTE, but this is a terrible idea. During the 20th century, the TV license made sense because it was levied on those who benefited from it. We needed to pay a licence so there’d actually be something in the box other than the godless BBC. The tax was logical and linked to consumption. If you thought the TV an infernal contraption, you didn’t have to pay for it. No Fortycoats for you.

Today, many of the households that don’t have TV licences have laptops and smartphones. And these devices are not for watching RTE. We use them for calls, for email, to educate ourselves, to read magazines, to read news, to work, to create, to submit our homework, to download apps to measure our sleep cycles, to communicate with all our relatives and friends who emigrated, and to figure out what song is playing. It’s how we live today. The amount of time that the average Irish smartphone spends consuming RTE content is, I’m sure, microscopic compared to everything else.

While RTE.ie has a popular news website and video player, taxing the internet to pay for RTE doesn’t fit. It’s like putting a motor tax on a sheep, because it might someday cross the road. Besides, if a media charge was divided among the media we actually consume online, the bulk would go to Google, Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia, LinkedIn, email service providers, and the BBC. According to Alexa, all of these sites are more popular in Ireland than RTE. (Also, the Irish Times and the Independent come in quite close to RTE.) But these other sites don’t need our money. And we don’t want to be charged to access them.

Falling slowly

How then to pay for RTE? Should we, even? Now I haven’t had a TV at any stage in my adult life. I’m one of those annoying people who thinks life is just too interesting. But I do love the companionship of Radio One on cold autumn nights. Some atmospheric tunes on Late Date followed by the sea areas weather forecast at five to midnight. Nothing prepares me for bed better than gliding from Malin Head to Mizen head, “falling slowly.”

So like most people, I’m grudgingly fine with a slice of the taxes that come from my pay cheque going to RTE – just like my and your taxes support the National Library, street cleaning, foreign aid, changing the bulbs in lighthouses, socks for the Gardaí, children’s allowances, and all the other bits and pieces that make up the State. Under this system, for the most part, the more you earn, the more you contribute to the kitty. That’s how we do most things, and it’s what we should do here.

A flat household internet charge is regressive and unjust. Picture a single person, living alone with an income of €25,000 and no television, who never watches RTE. He’ll have to pay a full €160. What about eight people living together with a combined income of €300,000 and ten televisions tuned to endless loops of Nationwide? They pay only €20 each.

So why is this charge even being contemplated? I reckon there’s a danger that some people think that the internet is how you access RTE through a computer. Our parliament does not have a strong representation of young people with experience outside politics. It’s disproportionately stocked with solicitors, school teachers and professional trade unionists. Many of these guys are fine people but they know more about increments than the Internet. They certainly don’t know much about the globalised lives that today’s private sector population live, and just how big a role the web plays in them. They don’t know we are fully engaged with the news, though getting it through TheJournal.ie, Broadsheet.ie, Politics.ie and other interactive platforms as much as RTE.

How we consume

Of course, eliminating the licence does raise the question of independence. A tax-funded RTE would need its income guaranteed a number of years in advance, so governments couldn’t condition its funding on favourable coverage. This can be achieved by legislating that changes in RTE’s funding need to be determined two to three years ahead. Whimsical chopping of funding wouldn’t be possible. The government has always set the licence fee anyway, so this would offer RTE more protection.

This approach allows more flexibility, too. The internet is rapidly changing how we consume video and audio media. Once we had BBC and RTE. Now we have hundreds of channels on cable, as well as millions of hours of YouTube online. US publishers are launching video channels – at low cost and all without any state support. Today, the Irish Times makes video, and other Irish online publishers won’t be far behind. (Whaddya say, TheJournal.ie? How about your own News at One?)

Perhaps the proceeds of a media tax can be spread around beyond RTE? The public service needs could be identified and other media companies could service them through the RTE platform. How about a tender for the Six One News? Perhaps the Irish Times could do it. Or it could support some grants for the investigative journalism that’s so lacking in Irish media today?

From what I’ve seen, management in RTE understand the changing landscape well, and they might even be considering these possibilities. I wish them well in figuring out a course that will see RTE thrive as a digital platform into the future. Just don’t tax my internet to pay for it!

Paul Quigley is co-founder of Newswhip.com, an Irish start-up tracking how news spreads through the social web.

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Comments (110 Comments)

  • the last thing I do on the net is tune into rte. this is such a bad idea. they’ll have to find Mr tubberty and co wages else where.

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  • I’m looking forward to Top Gear tonight where RTE will air an episode detailing the market release of a new vehicle 5 years ago.

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  • First of all the €160 we pay for a tv license to fund RTE is more than enough for what I would call poor tv & the fact rte have had cut backs means , what value for money are we the tax payers getting. Government is only short of taxing people for having a Sh•t

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    • They are, it’s called the septic tank fee, and possible remedial works on the tank if found faulty.

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    • Now there’s an idea, ‘MINISTER, what do you think of a toilet tax?’

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    • Im sure rabbite is not considering anything to do with media or the internet here and as usual, the taxpayer comes last. What he is looking at is how can everyone in rte keep their job, even though those jobs are not providing any return for anybody.
      Of all the current rte offerings( ie rte 1, rte2, digital channels, tg4, and all their radio stations) they have about 5% of decent content( if even). Consolidate all that to 1good tv channel and 1 good radio station and there you have it … A solution to their loss making over expensive rte. then fund it through advertising and product placement alone. any gaps in demand would be filled by private enterprise who would employ some of the remaining staff and the rest, well sorry it would appear the market can’t support your ambitions in tv.

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  • Resel 23/09/12 #

    I am so sick of the constant squeezing.

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  • A very comprehensive article covering socks for the Gardai & a tax for road crossing sheep! Not your nowadays all-too-popular ‘bitch, moan, and gripe’ piece – some workable suggestions, a balanced viewpoint and a really good read! Loved it, and won’t be paying for my internet, thank you!! (Nor will I be paying a tax for using the wind to dry my clothes or for failing to recycle the natural resources in my urine every time I pee!)

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  • “Household Media Charge” ; did you ever hear such shite. ?????

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  • Rte have no excuse for needing more money. They already receive license fees & advertising revenue. If they stop overpaying their so called stars like that muppet Tubridy & stop making awful tv shows like fair city they’d be fine!!

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  • @Linda, if there was an idiot tax, this country’s financial problems would have ended years ago…

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  • Here’s an idea, if RTE need more money why don’t they renegotiate with their advertisers like any other business instead of bullying the licence payers. They’ve had it too easy too long.

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  • Great article. I love how you have compared tax on the Internet to putting a motor tax on sheep. Surely the excess amount of ads now on rte player go some way towards funding it?

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  • So because I watch my shows on Netflix, YouTube or download them I still have to pay for Fair City?

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  • I agree but I think that RTE need to be told to get their house in order before asking taxpayers to pay more , they need to be forced to their cloth to the new reality , half a million for Marian Finnucane to present a radio show at the weekends is an indication of how crazy it is , the way they buy up US import shows that other channels already show or that Tv3 etc could afford if RTE wasn’t trying to compete , their remit should be solely public service , news current affairs and stuff that you can justify the current level licence fee to be used , engaging in the commercial stuff is a waste of taxpayers money , of they are forced to they slim down the 2000 staff , cut massively overpaying “stars” and root out the plenty of inefficiency that exists , a way can more easily be found not to have to introduce any new ” media tax”

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  • The inability of RTE to run its business is no reason to penalize the Irish People. Stop giving ridiculous wages to presenters that don’t deserve it and passing key positions on to family members.
    In short get your act together or get lost. RTE should not be entitled to one red cent of taxpayers money, they should get off their arses and earn it just like everyone else.

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  • This article should be submitted to the Department of Communications, I have a feeling they will tell you to post it in….

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  • Tom I suggest you pay an Idiot Tax

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  • The tax payers money that is being waisted is endless. Portugal’s tax rate was increased this week, the people went to the streets in mass protest and overturned the increase. We need to do the same. Enough is enough. How does every other commercial tv station survive without licence money? Because they use budgets a d don’t through money at people and projects unless they are commercially viable. Not so at RTE.

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  • RTE spent 300 000 euro just on taxi fares last year !!!!!!!! I’m guessing the taxi men will red thumb me to death for highlighting, but this level of wastage only goes on because they have such an inefficient organisation that’s too comfortable getting tax payers money without accountability….the level of waste is just crazy , thats what needs to be addressed instead if increasing license fee or introducing new shite media charges

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  • We’re already paying VAT to ISP’s. Enough.

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    • Those with Sky or similar – are already paying.
      If they are paying for that service – I assume that Sky is paying from our money to them, contributions to RTE for the broadcast of their service!

      If so, then some people are paying twice for the same service (1) with Sky and (2) with the present licence system (or this new eventual internet tax!).

      …And I suspect RTE KNOW this but are remaining silent on the matter!

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  • RTE should put all their content/channels up on a store like iTunes and consumers can then pay for whatever channel or show they want to watch on a subscription basis or even per show. So if you like Fair City then subscribe to it for the season . Popular shows could then support the making of the likes of Nationwide .

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  • I pay my Sky bill, why should I pay for the bloated salaries of Kenny, O’ Callaghan, et al? And I pay my UPC bill so I certainly will NOT be paying an “internet” tax to keep such a backward institution as RTE afloat. Forget about it

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  • Replace the word “nostalgic” with the word “nauseous” and the sentiment towards RTE will be more accurate for most.

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  • I simply don’t want to pay for Twink to appear on The Late Late Show.

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  • I won’t be paying for it. I never watch RTE on regular TV because the reception is awful (church spire blocks i) instead I watch it on Sky which I pay for seperately. I shouldn’t have to pay for it as RTE get money from Sky I believe.

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  • Nothing I watch or read or listen to on the internet comes from RTE. I may as well pay 160 to a Japanese TV station. Advertising is plenty (if they didn’t use their license revenue to undercharge for ad space, distorting the market for non-RTE TV and radio stations.)

    Also Fortycoats was an in-house RTE rip-off of Wanderly Wagon (and Doctor Who) that the Lamberts didn’t approve of. If ineptly rehashing other people’s work is held up as a shining example of why “we need RTE”, then…

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  • Aidan 23/09/12 #

    Are you taking the p!ss Tom? I sure hope so.

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  • Rte is horrible. it already uses the tv licence money to pay insane wages to presenters, majority of which are very, very bad presenters. people go on about the late late and others,but the fact of the matter is,that most of the guests of the late late are just other Rte staff members!
    added to that the fact it also makes plenty of money from advertising revenue, the last thing we need is to pay more licensing fees. offer a better service and id be happy to pay.

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  • I NEVER watch RTE – let me say that again, NEVER.

    My should I have to pay for something I do not want and is frankly, filled with over-paid boring, talentless buffoons who are afraid to ask serious direct questions to our government!

    * If I walk into a shop and order something, order a service – right, not problem, I should pay for it.
    * If I walk into a shop and purchase/use something – why the hell should I be forced to pay for something I never want?

    Its’s more legalised extortion by the state – and the sheep of Ireland will either accept it or make excuses for justifying it!

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  • Touche Biggins. I love Pat Kennys supposed tough question and then the way he lets them squirm out of it with incomprehensible nonsense and never picks them up on it. Vincent Browne for the win… play the clip, play the clip.

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  • RTE + Catholic church = miserable downtrodden society

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    • Ah now can’t agree with that. It was rte who broke the stories about clerical child abuse and have always been criticized for being anti – church! BTW, the licence fee doesn’t only go to rte anymore. The legislation says the fee is for having a television not for watching rte. a lot of other European countries are moving to the media fee type of payment instead of the licence fee, seems its the way forward.

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  • I’ll gladly pay media tax as long as the Internet is free

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  • Regarding TV license. We pay it monthly 13 euro. We only pick up Rte tv3 and tg4 via aerial (rabbit ears) we don’t have satellite or cable. We don’t watch TV much but download legaly and not so legally documentaries and tv shows not available on Irish TV. When I enquired about not paying the license fee I was told that if I have a TV set in the house then I must pay it. Even if the TV is broken. Its a case of if you have the equipment you must pay in case you use it. Told them that I have the equipment to be a actor (not a good one) so can I apply for artist tax breaks…

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    • I was also going to send them an invoice for sexual service in that I have fully functional sexual equipment and that they have the equipment to avail of this service. If I have them for a service I don’t use can’t I charge them for a service they don’t use.

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    • You could just get a large computer monitor instead of a TV. Since monitors cant pick up TV signals you could then watch everything through the internet and not have to pay your TV license. (this is one of the reasons, along with greed, why they want to bring in the charge)

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  • I think its ridiculous that there is any tv license at all. RTE is full of commercials and practically every programme is sponsored, plus there all all those blatant products/brands being promoted like all the giveaways on the late late. That should be all they need to pay for themselves. The point of a license fee is so that a state tv station is independant and unbiased and can make quality programmes (like the ideal behind the BBC). The idea of this new household media charge is even more ludicrous. If they want our money they should become commercial free, make better quality programmes and cut the ludicrous salaries. But there should be no universal media charge.

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    • I agree completely. I’ve never understood the license fee for channels that have advertising, it makes no sense. When you look at the content they provide it makes even less sense, after 11pm RTE descends into re-runs and obscure cop shows imported from that media power house, New Zealand, its makes even less sense.
      When you look at it, they fee has risen while the number of views has fallen, they are charging more for a service people don’t use. We already pay tax on televisions when we buy them, we pay tax on the electricity to run them, the channels we watch are paid for by advertising, that should really be the end of the charges in my opinion.

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  • I’m over working in Belgium with a load of other Irish(and paying Irish tax) and one thing everyone comments on is when they go back to Ireland that all they see on rte is depression and doom and gloom. Also, the Journal.ie is how most of us keep up with the news back home, NOT RTE. I have a joke for you Pat Rabbitte. Knock Knock? …..GO FU#K YOURSELF!!!

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  • RTE have no credibility with ordinary Irish people. The fact that Noel Curran is still in his job is a national disgrace. It’s just another part of the thinly disguised dictatorship that has complete control of this country.

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  • The funding for RTÉ should come straight from central taxation, the cost of the collection process for the license is a crazy waste. Not good for An Post though as the collection contract is very valuable to them.

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    • Once wages for average presenters on both tv and radio are 10 times what they’d get in the real world and most of them use a loophole to avoid paying PAYE I find it very difficult to even pay for a tv licence

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    • As you say Diarmuid An Post will suffer as it will be collected in the bill with your other household services which the tanant will pay. The costs for collection will therefore be reduced.

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  • I’m afraid it is the people in urban areas who will have to pay this media tax because you can’t tax those in the country side as we don’t have any decent broadband or no broadband at all. internet connectivity is a myth in the country side. you can’t tax a myth!

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  • close one of the channels?

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  • Excellent article.

    We already pay for our internet connections be it through telephone line, cable or whatever, at a much higher rate than anywhere else in Europe.
    To impose this “household broadcasting charge” would be rubbing salt in an already open wound!!
    When RTE goes digital next month our household will lose it cos we’re not prepared to pay extra for a Sour view box.
    Due to budgetary restrictions, we already watch our tv thru freeview satellite (cannot afford Sky) since hubby was made redundant back in 2008.
    Why don’t rte broadcast over the astra freeview satellite?
    Please note that we do pay the licence fee and will continue to do so even though we will be unable to view rte tv. as from the 24th October.
    I daresay there will be many others caught in the boat.
    We have never ever watched “live” tv on our computer!! we have no tv card to enable us to do so …..plus the broadband connection is far from perfect out here in the sticks!! ( 1 meg max)

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  • * This is a government that has lied about Household charges.

    * This is a government that has lied about water or utility charges.

    * This is a government that has lied about reducing the number of TD’s.

    * This is a government that has lied about creating 100,000 new jobs.

    * This is a government that has lied about abolishing the Seanad.

    * This is a government that ok’s country councils to pick on kids for the actions/inactions of their parents.

    * This is a government that refuses to see Cardinal Brady arrested for a crime that another did in America (Monsignor William Lynn got three to six years in prison by a judge who said he “enabled monsters in clerical garb … to destroy the souls of children.” Cardinal Brady did EXACTLY the same over ten+ years.

    * This is a government in which cronyism & nepotism still continues!

    * This is a government that is still lining its own financial pockets.

    * This is a government that is cow-towing to Germany and Merkel.

    * This is a government that is forcing people to pay for services they NEVER use!

    Welcome to The Irish Labour Party and Fine Gael.
    The biggest bunch of contemptible, liars, u-turn artists and utter crooks since the days of Fianna Fail – and are beating the previous at their own rackets and lies!

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    • Forgot a big one!

      This is a government that despite promising that €75m in existing payments would be abolished as the first stage of a larger reform programme, the government effected a U-turn last week, cutting just €3.5m from the bill!

      From €75 million…. down to three and a half!

      Thats Fine Gael and Labour for you!

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  • The VAT on my tv & internet bills is more than €180.00 per year + the VAT for the purchase of a new tv every 3/4 years………. What are they doing with that? Also, i’d like to know what the countries councils are doing with the €150 MILLION+ they make alone from parking charges per year?

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  • Bbc are state funded but at least they have no ads and they actually make good television! Rte are just right wing, conservative, overpaid hypocrites.

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    • Ivan. Are you kidding. RTE are very much LEFT wing. For Starters, there are 2000 paid up members of the NUJ who work for the organisation. Another example of how left wing this organisation is would be the last Presidential election debates that took place in RTE studios. Remember the fake tweets and the audience made up from Sinn Fein and Workers\ Labour Party supporters (RTE employees). Proof of the pudding is the Labour Party candidate won the election with a little help from our NOT SO impartial State Propaganda Channel.

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  • I would happy pay the same amount on a Media Charge that I pay on a TV license if the new charge replaces the old charge, if RTE was directly answerable to the viewers and, most importantly, if everyone paying the charge was given, within the cost of the charge, an Internet connection. It can be argued that the listener fee is not for content, but for providing a receivable signal. It makes no sense to be obliged to purchase a TV license if the provider does not provide you with a signal. The same should be applied to internet. I personally believe that every household in Ireland should be provided with an Internet connection by the government. It wouldn’t be broadband, it would be slow, but enough to view websites and view email. Anyone who wants a faster connection is free to pay for one from a commercial provider. We either accept that Internet access is a necessity rather than a luxury, or we don’t. I have no problem paying for a service if that service is being provided.

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  • They cannot even consider doing this until every city, town, village and boreen in the country has been piped for fast internet broadband connection. I certainly don’t consider the mobile broadband stick as a proper device. It’s way down the road, certainly in 5 to 7 years time. By then we may have a government that actually care. I have heard the Germans are very considerate.

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  • does anyone see a resemblance between pat rabbite and peter glazier out of crackerJack?
    maybe this is how this mad idea came about!

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  • OU812 23/09/12 #

    As long as the tax is reasonable €10 a month for example, replaces the tv licence completely & it’s divided between all broadcasters equally, I’ve no real problem with it.

    Might be an idea to make RTE subscription only for a year or so & let them see just how “valuable” their presenters are!

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  • Kenny O Callaghan Tubridy Duffy Finnucane Dobson some of them on 10 15 times the industrial wage for spouting out establishment crap all of them endorsing successive corrupt and tip the hat governments .As Maximus from Gladiator would say “Do i not entertain” NO you do not entertain .

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  • Tom, come back to planet Earth

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  • jrbmc 23/09/12 #

    Never mind this bollox!! Tax the text message , a 1c tax on a text would bring in roughly 9billion a year probably more as that figure is based on facts that a few years were sending 25 million txts a day in this country ….its a brainer !!!!

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  • all rte is good for is sport everything else is muck!

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  • Derek Mooney openly promotes shopping in Northern Ireland on his shows while small shops are closing every day. Why would anybody want this value system encouraged. The people who owned the shops contributed their taxes to pay his salary. The advertisers paid their fees to pay his salary. Now Rabbit wants a media tax – Pat it’s time to retire.

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  • mr x 23/09/12 #

    @tom, just because you percieve that Dev’s Ireland of comely maidens dancing at the crossroads and the church dictating government policy is still alive and well doesnt make it so.
    rte has become irrelevent for the vast majority of people especially under 35′s.
    whether you realise it or not Tom these days YOU are the minority, and your numbers are dwindling fast.

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  • random 23/09/12 #

    Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!

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  • jrbmc 23/09/12 #

    No brainer :-)

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  • Haven’t had a TV in over 5 years now and i don’t miss it..! It is only a matter of time before we will get charged for watching Breaking Bad season 5 and Mad men season 7 online.. TV cannot compete with the Internet but they need revenue to make good programs and that revenue has to be got somewhere. So it will come in.

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  • Hi Paul,

    I am against Minister Pat Rabbitte’s proposal to scrap the TV licence and replace it with a Social Media Charge. Access to the Internet in Ireland does not stem from the State propaganda broadcasting mast in Montrose, Donnybrook, Dublin 4. When it comes to the Internet it is entities such as the below which help to educate, inform and entertain . These companies and many more like them provide a real public service to the Irish citizen;

    Google
    Facebook
    Twitter
    Wikipedia
    Microsoft
    HP
    DELL
    Intel
    Apple
    Cisco
    Vodafone
    02
    UPC
    Sky
    Research in Motion
    Nokia
    Samsung
    Sony Ericsson

    This is a fundamental question of freedom. Freedom to choose not to avail of anything from RTE. Last December, I choose to dispose of my television because I was sick and tired of paying €160 pa for nonsense while at the same time contributing toward the plush lifestyles of the top ten obscenely overpaid RTE Celebs.

    I pay my taxes for vital services such as Health, Education, Social Welfare, and Policing, etc., – not to mention paying off the IMF\EU bailout loans. However, in the age of the Internet I do not consider a public broadcasting service to be a vital State asset that everybody must contribute to regardless of whether you watch RTE or not. Our Government should be concentrating on finding ways to cut costs and thus give money back to the already over-taxed Irish Citizen. In my opinion, RTE should be number 1 on the list of “State Assets” to be sold off. It is high time this organisation is told to survive on its own two feet.

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  • A list of original programming that’s sold in the rights market worldwide would be helpful – Like Lost or Father Ted.

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  • The tv license was meant- I thought- to enable to fund tv broadcast without the income generated by commercials? But rte has gained income from commercials for a long time. I still pay the tv license, because it’s cheaper than the fine if you get caught not paying it.
    I can’t watch any rte broadcasts online because they updated to newest flash player and my comment (2006, practically pre-historic Mac) computer operating system does not support it. I never watch online.
    I am already paying 160 a year, so I don’t really care what they call it. Just don’t increase it.
    Seems this is just a way to make the non-payers pay, as I imagine it would be fairly simple to put a control in place preventing internet access if the tax wasn’t paid, whereas it’s pretty impossible to prevent people accessing tv signals.
    I think the article is well-written, with good insights. Not so sure the tax would be fair.

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  • Absolutely spot on Paul. We got rid of our TV years ago. We never visit RTE online. As not sure of whose voice it speaks. Just far too busy working and enjoying intelligent web news. Why should I pay for over inflated salaries for people whose services I don’t use. People now curate the content they are interested in.

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  • Hey Paul, what happened to all the comments?

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  • So they’re going to collect a household charge, then organise other group of civil servants to administer broadcasting charge. Why not pay rte out of one household charge? Too efficient? Better still, broadcasting authority to subsidise any station to make public service content?

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    • No Thomas, they are not going to hire another group to administer the broadcasting charge, This media charge will be part of your new household services charge. Property tax for homeowners will replace the household charge next year. It was then the intention to have a household services charge for which the tenant was liable. The 160 was to be transferred directly onto this bill. It’s all a bit of a bother for Rabbitte however as the populace has not been compliant in registering their properties.

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  • I think it is a wonderful idea that reflects modern technology, just rename the current TV licence to a Household Media Charge, leave it at 160 Euro and get on with life.

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  • RTE has plenty of credibility with ordinary Irish people. That’s why hundreds of thousands tune in to The Late Late show and Rose of Tralee. Just because you perceive ordinary people as the types that inhabit American sit coms doesn’t make it reality. Try recognising that the real Ireland is still alive and well. If you want a new land of abortions and gay marriage then I suggest you live elsewhere.

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