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‘All we’re looking for is a fair deal’ – An IBRC worker on the impact of liquidation

Since the bank formerly known as Anglo Irish Bank was liquidated last month ordinary workers have been left in the dark as to their fate and that of redundancy packages they’d agreed prior to ‘promnight’. Here, an employee speaks out…

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LATE ON 6 February 2013, five days after I had marked seven years as a staff member of the financial institution formerly known as Anglo Irish Bank, I was made redundant.

It was not in the manner in which one normally expects to be made redundant. In this case the whole country watched as I and 800 people working for Irish Bank Resolution Corporation (IBRC) in the Republic were effectively sacked. IBRC was liquidated in a bid to abolish the promissory note arrangement, we had become collateral damage.

As the last staff member vacated our office on what became known as ‘promnight’ the liquidator, KMPG, moved in. Staff arrived the following morning having had our contracts terminated as we slept but judging from appearances not many of us had slept, we’d been consumed with shock, anger and, worst of all, fear.

As if to underline that this was no ordinary redundancy, first details of the impact liquidation was going to have on us ordinary staff came not from within the bank but the media which became our lifeline.

We learned that while our contracts were terminated we would be entitled to statutory redundancy and that many staff would be re-employed by NAMA but this now looks doubtful. Our colleagues in Belfast and London would retain their employment as the government’s late night legislation was not legal in the United Kingdom. KPMG was to offer one month rolling contracts to all staff which has now been extended for another three months to August 2013.

Project Red, as the promissory note deal had become known internally, had been in the pipeline for 15 months yet we were only briefed on its impact after the fact and we are still learning new elements of it almost weekly.

‘Always knew our days were numbered’

As employees of IBRC we were always aware that our days were numbered, the bank was always going to be wound down and we have been effectively working ourselves out of a job. But we did not expect it to be this soon, nor in this manner.

In September 2011 an agreed redundancy package was signed off by the bank, and government and Troika with the input and agreement of our union the Irish Bank Officials Association (IBOA). The headline terms of this redundancy package were 4 weeks’ base pay per year of service (inclusive of statutory redundancy entitlement).

It had been envisaged that these terms would apply in respect of redundancies made by the bank over the following five years, subject to an annual review and on the basis that there was no unforeseen budgetary deterioration. In the event that compulsory redundancies would be deemed necessary, it was proposed that the terms set out would apply to any such redundancies.

As part of the 2011 Voluntary Redundancy Scheme there were areas within the bank which were restricted from applying for this package as these areas were seen as critical to the wind down programme. My department, which manages the recovery of loans, was one of those restricted but I and my colleagues took comfort from the clause which stated that should compulsory redundancies be seen as necessary the terms of the scheme would apply to us.

This clause would have seen me entitled to a package of €20,000 inclusive of statutory redundancy. With liquidation, the government has now defaulted on this agreement. Now we’ve told that we will only get statutory redundancy which for me is a cut of 54 per cent.

The biggest problem for me and fellow employees has been the silence from the liquidator. For six weeks we had no word from KPMG on the status of our pensions, we were told that it was awaiting consultation with Mercer Ireland. But Mercer confirmed directly to staff that it had not received payment from the bank for January or February’s pension payment. We’ve since learned via human resources – not the liquidator – that our pensions are safe.

The resounding silence from the liquidators and their recent appointment as receiver to Thomas Crosbie Holdings has further confounded IBRC employees. Surely managing the biggest liquidation in the history of the State would be priority for KPMG? Instead on the day it was appointed to TCH it cancelled a meeting – via text message –  with IBOA officials that had been scheduled to discuss the welfare of 800 staff.

Not looking for public sympathy

Having been made redundant on ‘promnight’ we’ve effectively been re-employed by KPMG due to necessity to achieve a return for the taxpayer but have been prevented from applying for the now non-existent voluntary redundancy scheme.

We are told that we are critical to the offloading of IBRC’s loan book. Yet as soon as that happens, we’ll all be out of the job and in the meantime our quest to find alternative employment has been hindered by the alleged reluctance of other financial institutions to hire or even view ex-IBRC employees CVs’. I have even seen an email sent to a colleague from a recruitment agent stating that one bank was not accepting referrals in relation to ex-IBRC staff. The assumed reasoning behind this is that the liquidators cannot afford to lose employees at this time.

I am not looking for public sympathy but rather stating the facts of how there was an agreement put in place that in the event of compulsory redundancies a package would be provided for the staff and a provision for same had been made in the company accounts. But this has now been reneged on.

It’s a dangerous precedent to set, by a government, whose own ministers have been critical of private companies who do not respect their workers’ rights. In effect what has happened to IBRC staff is as bad as any treatment perpetrated by a private company.

Staff morale is low, employees’ mental and physical heath is at risk. We’ve lost a lot of trust from clients who we’d worked hard with to build-up trust after the collapse of Anglo in 2008. Now with liquidation we are back to where we were, battling to get the borrowers back on side in a bid to ensure that loan repayments are kept up.

All we’re looking for is a fair deal. The government has reneged on a promise and that makes it a lot harder to keep our promise to ensure a fair recovery of money on behalf of the taxpayer. We are not looking to challenge the IBRC Act in any way, in fact under the legislation Minister for Finance Michael Noonan has the power to overturn the reneging of our right to a fair redundancy scheme.

In the past two weeks creditors of IBRC, solicitors and receivers, are now viewed as being ‘in duress’ and are being paid for their services by the liquidator. Are we, the ordinary workers, not also ‘in duress’ as we look to recover the money taxpayers are owed?

The author of this article works in Recovery Management for Irish Bank Resolution Corporation. Their identity is known to TheJournal.ie.

TheJournal.ie approached the special liquidators at IBRC for a comment on the issues raised in this article but there was no response at the time of publication.

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Comments (33 Comments)

  • I have no doubt that the ordinary workers in the IRBC are going to get screwed sideways on this one because the Government, the unions and KPMG all know that they can get away with it. They will will use the public anger at the dealings in Anglo as a stick to beat the ordinary workers in the IBRC because they know that the workers we get little sympathy for the man on the street. The problem is that the practices that led to the downfall of Anglo were carried out by a very small amount of people within the company and not by the company as a whole. Should the receptionists, filing clerks, customer service agents all be vilified for what was imposed on them by senior management?

    The Governments approach on this appears to be 2 twofold.

    1. Use this dispute to deflect from the fact that the Government and financial regulators appear to have done f**kall to bring the perpetrators of the biggest financial meltdown in Irish history to account.

    2. Use this as a precedent to impose the same conditions on the next bunch of workers that the Government goes after.

    If a deal was signed then the deal must be honored. Instead of fighting the ordinary workers on this one how about KPMG and the Government putting all there time and effort into bringing people to account?

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    • How do ‘The Unions’ think they can get away with this?! The IBOA has been as much in the dark as the workers themselves, that much is clear from the article, and they are doing their damndest for the workers. Really, often the unions are deserving of criticism, but they are not an arm of Government, and are not always at fault

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    • That’s a fair point Donnchadh and something I meant to correct earlier but forgot o. You are indeed correct about the lBOA being in the dark and I should have made it clearer that any criticism that I have for unions should be reserved for other unions whose officials seem to be too close to the Government or their ow self interest.

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    • gerbreen 22/03/13 #

      A friend who is a member and wore the where were u in 92; in 93 tshirt at the time … Informs me that the IBOA are an association not a union .. They don’t pay strike pay.

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  • The fruits of capitalism – human beings discarded like rubbish. We live in failed state who’s only purpose is to protect foreign banks.

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  • Be under no illusion whatsoever but this govt does not give a damn about the ordinary worker in this country. All they want is to take more of their money, reduce their living standards & make it easier for those at the top of the food chain to increase their wealth & operate in a manner that would have been unthinkable only a few years ago. The race to the bottom is now well & truly on. So – who’s next?

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    • Brian… They never will and they never have. It doesn’t matter who’s running the country…. The ingrained culture of past and present governments is about selfishness and self-preservation. To insure our politicians keep their nobs they have manipulate the public into modifying our constitution to support their cause and not that of the people.

      So we are now in place were our politicians are untouchable. In essence, the only way they can be removed is by our votes. This in itself is upsurd. They’re internal oversight committees fail to eliminate politicians who are party to malfeasance, corrupt behavior or personal illegal actions. If their oversight committees were up to par, then we could probably vote decent people to support or interest.

      In our country…. Politicians are the elite, the powerful, the land owner…. The harder we work, the richer they get and the poorer we get. In 200 years we really haven’t moved past the feudalistic model of power in this country. The landowners/lords/politicians are the most powerful and the rest of are serfs.

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  • It is an awful situation for workers however the bigger picture must dictate. I have never set foot in Anglo but my kids must pay for the damage; every wage & bonus over the years was based on a lie. I don’t understand why our government have treated Anglo different to any other bank – all are broken and no rewards should have been given to anyone – stat redundancy was enough. Taxes are rising in part to your institution

    Sounds like your skills will be required for years to come …. Loosing job has happened to nearly half a million of us …

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    • The faults within Anglo lay at the top of the managerial pyramid, and to a diminishing extend as one works downwards. Do not blame the ordinary worker at the bottom for the faults at the top.

      It would appear the staff entered a deal in good faith, post bailout, and the government have reneged upon that. Just to point out, I have no connection with Anglo, IBRC or KPMG

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    • I don’t disagree with you. However the bigger picture remains that this massive debt is socialised and all our shoulders. At least staff benefitted from the lie that Anglo was.

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    • Gerbeen, I’m not sure that losing your job is a benefit. Also unless any of the staff were in the Government that socialized the Anglo debt, then I don’t think that they can be held accountable for the gross, even treasonous actions of the Government that did impose that debt.

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    • Brian they are not been held accountable. They are the colateral damage. The rest of us are second step damage to pay for it. Nothing against any Anglo or staff member of any bank for that matter but should we all have to pay? Lack of government in holding people to account is the part of the problem.

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    • Gerbeen they have to pay also just like the rest of us. they are losing their jobs and would have had to endure all the austerity measures over the last few years as well. so they are no different from any other worker that is being made redundant.

      The main point here is that a deal was signed by the Government who are now reneging on this deal. This is exactly what I have already pointed out in a previous comment and you are in some way supporting what I said. The deal signed has been broken and now you are saying basically tough shit lads, ye are collateral damage especially seeing as ye are from Anglo. Would you say the same thing if a whole load of front-line workers were told made redundant and only got statuary pay?

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    • gerbreen 22/03/13 #

      Brian, was the redundancy deal signed by the government or by the IBRC thought? Article mentions both but its most likely it was signed off by the bank with approval of its major shareholder and paymaster. This “special liquidation” they voted through by the great and wise of Kildare St – I think theres a fair chance many had no idea what they were voting for – but IBRC exist now? Its debt sure does and is firmly on shoulders of our kids; the legal battles agains Quinn etc are still been fought but so should the deal stand? And if so who pays for it?

      If any company goes into liquidation – surely all deals are off – should this be any different. Look at the Vita Corlex people who had to fight to get their basic rights.

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    • Gerbeen it says it was signed of by the bank and government so that is what I am going on for now. From my reading of the article those that were not part of the voluntary redundancy had a clause built in because they were essential to the winding down of the bank. If some in the bank got a deal that was agreed by the bank and government and troikia, then all should get it.

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    • I’ll say it again.
      We are well catered for by our very honest, very liquid, very stable Credit Union Network ran mostly by volunteers.
      What did these banks ever do only make housing, cars and consumables dear on us??

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  • So the government have reneged on a deal. A lot of that going on these days.

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  • I feel bad for the ordinary worker on the ground. They will be screwed over and the irish government again at the heart of the problem. This goverment is hell bent on destroying the fabric of this country piece by piece.

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  • @Marlon – spot on sir! Great little country to be sure to be sure!!

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  • Why don’t we offer the use of our ports and airports for strategic purposes to Russia for a bit of help with our loans. That would really stick to Europe.

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  • Some of the staff that are looking for a fair deal would have been complicit in the Wild West banking style.

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  • Unless the company is moving forward , why pay anything other than statutory ??, agreement or not
    If profits are made from the work being done, that’s profits when matched against losses , then redundancy extras are justified
    This guy is still working and knows he will get redundancy ,

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  • Russia- PLEASE intervene and help!

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    • Well said!

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    • Shouldn’t it say.
      ‘‘All we’re looking for is a fair deal’’ – A member of the public on the impact of IBRC’s €55 billion liquidation????
      http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2013021200042?opendocument

      Shouldn’t the employees of IBRC/Anglo be happy that they got an extra 4-5 years work out of an organisation that should have been closed down from day 1, because of Illegal/Criminal activity?

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    • Anglo/IBRC, BOI, AIB, EBS, NIB, PTSB (and not to forget the foreign banks operating in Ireland during the boom)
      and their accomplices in Government, have sentenced generations of Irish people to debt slavery.
      They have literally sold our country from beneath our feet.
      They should have been shut down years ago.

      I know people who are getting called on a daily basis from these criminal institution’s heavy handed, ignorant “mortgage arrears vulture teams”
      trying to take the food out of their children’s mouths, to pay reckless Ponzi 10x income mortgages, that should not have been sold.
      This is Financial Genocide!!!

      Let us not forget, that Hitler’s handmaidens got prosecuted for their war crimes.
      Look a little harder and no doubt there are more guilty parties in this travesty than Sean Fitzpatrick and Michael Fingelton.
      Where are the whistleblowers within these criminal institutions?
      Where are the whistleblowers acting in the public interest?
      IBRC and has done nothing but keep Anglo’s/Irish Nationwide’s corruption/criminality under wraps??

      Why is Noonan going around, making sure that employes from a criminal bank are “alright” for cash and jobs,
      should he not be going into the homes of their victims and making sure that they have enough money to feed their kids, first??

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  • boo hoo poor me if you and your follow employees working in the bank had not been so greedy there might have been a job for ye. as it is ye decided to adapt a grab all mentality and get swept up in the “Celtic shizter”. your bank should have been liquidated back in 2008, it is not functioning i really don’t know wtf kpmg actually have ye on the payroll for at all. your lucky to have been born in this country that provides social welfare for people as well as for wayward banks it seems. if you had been born in America you would have been arrested and locked up until you were dead for the s..tstorm that you are your follow employers have brought upon this country. your family would be out on the street and you would be in prison. as it is you are in Ireland where the government will provide you with social welfare medical card free education and a council house.
    well guess what there is a big shock in store for you. for the first time in your life you are going to have to pay for the consequences of your actions no more private health insurance no more nice cars no more trips away, shock horror ye might even have to take the bus. heavens above no more private school no more lansdowne road no more d4 lifestyle. you might even have to cook for yourself. welcome to reality you made the mess you now get to sit in it until its cleaned up, btw if you want any tips on how to live in 188 euros a week i will be happy to provide them for a modest fee

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  • Russian people – please intervene and help our economy!

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  • ye are looking for a fair deal recently there has been new whistle blower laws that came in ,a lot of the small people in ANGLO IRISH BANK knew about the level of criminality which took place and i say go for a deal as a whisle blower and get your rewards .

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  • I don not think we need the skills of anyone even remotely connected at Anglo ever again. Unless it is as a witness or a defendant in a court case exposing and punishing the architects of our misfortune.

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    • So what you are saying is bring in collective punishment. Somebody working in an entry level position for maybe a year should just be consigned to the scrapheap, am I right? You would have made a great teacher with your punish the whole class for one students wrongdoing, sort of attitude.

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    • gerbreen 22/03/13 #

      Brian Brady – we don’t need their senior management or lending practices but t is unfair to tar all with that brusg. I have no doubt there are many highly skilled people in most of these institutions. What we need is accountability and justice to be seen so that next generation of bankers pay more heed to corporate governance. Thats goes for all regulatory bodies in Ireland. 5 years on and Anglo not dealt with before they move to AIB.

      In absense of this justice – all people working in these institutions should have additiona taxation over say 75k.

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