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Column: The ‘Kill The Gays’ law is shocking – but we mustn’t act rashly

Imposing Western will too forcefully will only put more lives in danger, writes GCN editor Brian Finnegan.

Brian Finnegan

THE OUTCRY ON GCN’s social networking platforms following Rebecca Kadaga’s announcement that the Ugandan government will introduce its ‘Kill Gays Bill’ by the end of this year was understandably reactionary. Followers said:

Hope y’all sick bastards get what you deserve some day.
Sick, sick, sick!” said another. “I hope that Ireland will withdraw any aid it is giving to this country, should they proceed with this vile law.

But we should take a breath and think hard before becoming too instantly reactionary. Last month, at a meeting of the Inter-Parliamentary Union in Quebec, Canada’s Foreign Minister John Baird warned Uganda not to trample on people’s human rights.

Kadaga replied, “If homosexuality is a value for the people of Canada they should not seek to force Uganda to embrace it. We are not a colony or a protectorate of Canada.”

Christmas gift

Her further response, on returning to massive support in Uganda, was to announce the anti-homosexuality bill, saying, “Ugandans want that law as a Christmas gift. They have asked for it and we’ll give them that gift.”

The legislation proposes that gay men and lesbians be sentenced to life imprisonment for having sex and that more ‘extreme’ cases of ‘aggravated homosexuality’, defined as gay acts committed by parents or authority figures, HIV-positive people, paedophiles and repeat offenders, may face the death penalty if convicted. If introduced it will also heavily criminalise several peripheral things like advocating on behalf of LGBT people, or attending a same-sex wedding.

It also provides for compensation for “victims” of homosexuality, a provision in law which is sure to result in consensual partners turning against their partner to not only avoid the draconian legal penalties, but to claim the status of victim and seek compensation.

The bill also states that a person charged with an offence under this Act shall be liable to extradition under the existing extradition laws. The wording of Kadaga’s response at the Inter-Parliamentary Union is key to the reason Uganda and other African countries are introducing such draconian anti-gay laws. Many countries have imposed their will on Africa throughout history (Uganda was a British colony until 1962). In the wake of independence, homophobia has been used as a rallying cry for votes by the likes of Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe, and former Zambian President Rupaih Banda, denouncing the cultural and societal dominance of the West.

The Ugandan announcement, immediately following Baird’s dressing down in Canada, polarises Uganda further from the West, where gay marriage is becoming the norm and shows just how harmful the brute imposition of Western will may be to LGBTs – not only in Uganda, but across the African continent.

Imprisonment

In Nigeria, the day after Kadaga’s announcement, lawmakers advanced a bill that will sentence gay couples who try to marry or live together, to a maximum of 14 years in jail. Individuals who witness or help these couples will face a 10-year sentence, public displays of affection between same-sex couples will be criminalised and LGBT organisations will be made illegal.

The response that’s needed should be measured and non-sensationalist. It must respect Africa’s independence, while diplomatically working with governmental agencies and NGO’s in Uganda, Nigeria and elsewhere to educate, support and empower communities to act for the greater good of all Ugandan people, including LGBT’s, rather than insisting they bend to Western will.

International governments, including Ireland, must engage with Ugandan leaders to impress upon them the needlessness and imminent harm of this bill to all of Ugandan society, not only in making it a society where inhumanity towards your fellow man is leglislated for, but through Uganda’s subsequent isolation from the international community. Our leaders must impress on Uganda’s leaders the acceptance of the Uganda and its people as an equal part of the international community, rather than the desire of the international community to dominate Uganda. They should underline the basic respect for human life that comes with this relationship.

Threats and blanket criticism of Uganda, without considered diplomatic engagement, will result in further harm to LGBT individuals, the whipping up of the homophobic sentiments of the bill and the aggressive enforcement of the bill, if and when it is introduced.

Brian Finnegan is the Editor of GCN and the author of The Forced Redundancy Film Club, follow him on twitter @finneganba.

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Comments (70 Comments)

  • Withdraw the aid. The fact notwithstanding that our aid will probably used to enforce this law it is a shocking breach of the most basic of human rights and surely the UN must interve

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    • Damn thing posted before I was done! The UN must intervene or else cut ties with this nation. If laws like this become acceptable anywhere in the world it will surely send us down a horrible road….

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    • Other countries have this law already and the U.N have turned a blind eye

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    • On the one hand we want to bring democracy to our less enlightened friends in Africa/middle east.
      When they exercise their democratic rights and enact this kind of Neanderthal legislation, it’s time once again to show them the error of their ways.

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    • It sickens me to think that my tax money might be going to a barbaric regime like this. While we shouldn’t tell the Ugandans what they should do, we don’t have to support their barbarism…. simply boycott Ugandan goods, vacations etc. and petition governments to stop supporting them and let Europe provide asylum visas to homosexuals persecuted in Uganda.

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  • Xadovan 18/11/12 #

    I wonder if LGBT rights were brought up on any of the Irish government trade missions in the Middle East?

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    • Exactly! We can’t enforce gay rights on rich countries like Saudi Arabia, but when something like this happens in poor African countries, everyone’s imperialist instincts get activated because they are seen as weaker, and essentially culturally inferior, than us and so we can tell them what to do. People need to have a wider political and historical perspective on this issue than just focusing on gay rights.

      Why should Ireland, the UK or any other Western country have any right to tell people how to run their own country? particularly countries that have been previously been colonised by the West and are still suffering the after effects. Are these countries independent or not, or are people are saying they should be independent but only insofar as people on the West approve of what they do?

      There should of course be as much solidarity as possible directly with LGBT groups in Africa, but gay rights can’t be imposed imperialistically from above through the very states that contribute to the kind of poverty and inequality in Africa that is a fertile breeding ground for homophobia and all other kinds of discrimination against minorities.

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    • JayK 18/11/12 #

      Completely anecdotal story, but a gay Saudi Arabian acquaintance of mine says the law there is largely symbolic. In fact, because of the strict separation of sexes, there is a trend of bisexuality there far in excess of European standards. The law is still objectionable, I accept, but the situation over there is more complex.

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    • Fleetingwhim said “Are these countries independent or not, or are people are saying they should be independent but only insofar as people on the West approve of what they do?” Apply that question to, say, Nazi Germany. Any thoughts?

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  • Uganda signed and ratified the ICCPR in 1995 – a year after Toonan lodged his complaint on Tasmanian sodomy laws (Over 70 countries retain these laws despite the conflict with human rights principles). The point about universal human rights is that they cannot be diluted by local or cultural factors. Uganda needs to be discouraged from breaching the standards it signed up to, using whatever diplomatic or economic leverage which is available. A softly softly approach to human rights is not an option.

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  • ….on reading this article I thought I had just woken up from a bad dream. Contrary to the government of Uganda’s belief, Human rights are not items on a A la Carte menu they can pick and choose. They are universal and apply to all human beings equally. As when any Human rights are ignored and trampled upon appropriate sanctions should be imposed. While Lesbians and Gays enjoy relative freedom in Ireland, it’s Gay Population are still second class citizens who still do not enjoy the same rights as the rest of society, namely the right to Marry. It’s time the Irish government stood up and did the right thing and thus earn the creditability and authority to call others to task.

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  • We did go down the appeasement road before – how did THAT turn out?!

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  • We should stop supporting regimes run by ignorant religious savages.

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  • Brian,

    I respect your opinion but I disagree with you on this. I will agree that the West shouldn’t interfere with certain laws of countries, but when a country is going to make it illegal to be gay, well we as a country, cannot stand by and allow it, by continuing to give aid every year. I’m of the opinion that all countries should do the same. If we continue to give aid, well then we will also have blood on our hands, if a man or woman is killed because of this law. Religion again, when will the world wake up and be self thinking, rather than living their lives based a bronze age book!

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  • I notice that the Catholic Church is strangely silent on this topic….

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  • this is wrong so wrong you cannot kill somebody for the way they were born and let me guess this all stems from religous beliefs . the world makes me so mad the closeminded world we live in . how can this happen .

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  • I can never understand why idiots like the Irish Govt give our money by way of aid to people like this. They either spend it on armies or police forces which they use to implement their own savage laws against minorities of all sorts or they steal it to enrich themselves. This primitive attitude to gays and lesbians has no place in the modern world. Why are these Govts tolerated as members of the UN and given vip treatment when they travel around the world. Its time for the rest of the world to act on this. If a minister of a western govt. declared that he/ she was introducing a law to prevent sexual relations between whites and other races what would happen. Oh didn’t we have all that before and the solution gave us Mugabe.

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    • It is not always the Irish government, but the church run charities who have government backing and tax exempt status. We have charitable organizations like goal who give their CEOs a six digit salary to an ex junior minister.
      Not only does charity begin at home but also corruption.

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  • If all Western countries who provide Aid stopped doing so in protest they might reconsider.

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  • Paul 18/11/12 #

    The softly softy approach wont work with these pariahs. The only approach that will is the threat of harsh sanctions. As a gay Irish international development worker and humanitarian I can see the rationale of engaging the leaders and the importance of dialogue, but this is far too serious to even be given a semblance of legitimacy. Cut them off and say enough is enough until they change their attitude. Human rights are universal and need to be demanded. I am incensed that any of our international development budget is sent to these countries when they so clearly despise human life and more often than not these bastards in government just steal the money and or squander it. Its disgusting.

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    • Some humanitarian you are who wants to cut off aid to the poorest of the poor because you don’t like the policies enacted by elites who will be completely unaffected by the cuts. I suppose you supported the sanctions against Iraq too that killed half a million children under Saddam Hussein.

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    • Paul 18/11/12 #

      You need to wise up. Cutting off the aid to these countries is the only thing that works. Yes, it is horrible and inevitably the poorest are the first to hurt, but nothing changes in the long term if the status quo is maintained and end of the day these savages only understand the language of money. Grow up.

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    • tom 19/11/12 #

      sacrificing the poorest in attempt to give gay rights is wrong.

      there has to be a better way

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    • Paul Oh 19/11/12 #

      Its not about ‘gay rights’, its about not murdering people.

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    • How many may die as result of this law , how many will die if aid is withdrawn , there has to be a better way,
      Red herring , aid is used for military purposes , that is a management of aid issue, and not relevant

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  • The answer is simple – cut all EU aid to any African country that does not uphold UN conventions on human rights, including homosexuality. Leave them then to fend for themselves – which is what they actually want. I for one will never give another cent to any any charity that props up indirectly the backward, primitive govs of these African ‘nations’

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  • Dispensing aid without staying true to our principles is abhorrent, not imposition of Western dominance. In fact, the West has too often acted against our principles in our international dealings – and look where that’s got us.

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  • Where did the Africans get this absurd notion that gays were committing crimes but from Irish and European missionaries. It’s therefore laughable that they claim we have no right to interfere in their laws when those laws are based on European Christian laws.

    Nations are not islands. All nations have obligations that transcends their national laws. Basic human rights is one of them, otherwise how could we condemn the German Nazis for exterminating the Jews under their own laws?

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  • We should organize a demonstration outside the dail to demand that Irish aid to Uganda be stopped immediately.

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    • Yes withdraw aid, that worked in Iraq , why do we always have to hurt the weakness to punish governments, there has to be a better way

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    • Shay, most aid ends up in government hands. It supports government projects. Aid distorts the market as well. We’re borrowing money off Germany etc. to give to the corrupt but quickly growing,country Uganda. Aid helps keep the currency strong and their exports uncompetitive. Stop aid to Uganda now!!

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    • Irish descendents enslaved by their forebears to Germany so they don’t ‘feel bad’ when seeing some more Africans starving (how many Chinese in Africa are starving?) give ‘Aid’ to the country’s thieves.

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  • News just in: non-Western nations don’t often share Western values and norms. Amazes me that Westerners always act surprised when African and Middle Eastern nations pass laws that appear to be batsh!t insane. Let’s hope that the liberal multiculturalists in this country will finally learn that we don’t need this wonderful diversity in our nation. Let Uganda conduct its own affairs as it sees fit and stop giving it aid to pay for its jet fighters.

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  • Refuse entry to this State for all Ugandans , Withdraw Aid , What horrible people to have such a law .

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  • All I can say is that Im glad Im not a recently married gay man heading off to Uganda on my honeymoon…if I was Id seriously consider canceling it a going somewhere else instead.

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  • google uganda. tullow oil. michael martin. mite provide insight into why we give “aid” to countries like uganda.

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  • Given the events of the week we’re the last country that can lecture others

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    • Why are you getting some many red thumbs on this? It’s a valid point.

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    • …some many..was meant to be “so many”

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    • its a disgrace what happens but there is a real difference between death by cowardly negligence and the cry for hunting and murdering hundreds of people just because they’re gay

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    • Just because our government doesn’t get things right does that mean we should remain mute. I think not most people in this country have a good sense of right and a willingness to stand up for the underdog. Not standing up to a law that criminalises gay people would be wrong,especially if it could mean them being sentenced to death

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    • Funnily enough the death of all homosexuals is also a central policy of that group so beloved of some Irish people, Hamas/Hizbollah.

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    • Reginald’s Tower, well spotted. Show me your friends………………

      Just as well those that support women’s rights AND Hamas aren’t robots or they would suffer a meltdown due to the contradictions.

      The Israeli position while not perfect is, “…unmarried same-sex and heterosexual couples in Israel have equal access to nearly all of the rights of marriage in the form of unregistered cohabitation status, akin to common-law marriage”.

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    • A CUNNING PLAN,
      to off load all the HIV sufferers and the unemployed .
      Tell the world ‘they are Gay, so with this new proposed law all of the above can now claim refugee status, and the taxpayers elsewhere can look after them, brilliant.

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    • I don’t think many Irish who support the Palestinians actually support hamas, to suggest that is ridiculous. You can clearly see throughout history that in times of social unrest due to occupation people turn to the extremists, ie. Hamas. Things would change there without the Israeli assaults every Israeli election. Give the people of Gaza more credit than that, the PEOPLE, not hamas. Sinn fein would have been considered more hard line option in our country but you can see they’ve only had popularity north and south when people on the ground are under pressure. Its history.

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  • If you kill someone because of differing religious or political beliefs its called terrorism.

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  • We get a few gay people and lesbitans in the pub on a thursday night and they are very nice people sure wasn’t Elton John one and he’s a good singer.

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  • sick bastards, I hope they dont get another penny from Ireland, the dirty bastards who brought this law into action I hope the ly die a slow and painful death..
    and shame on u lot who think its ok too!!!!

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  • its laughable that a small island off the European western extremity would think it need to give Aid to a central African country. A country bursting with resources that China is developing. The Irish Aid gets stolen while they buy military aircraft that would out-class any Irish bi-plane.

    Dumb and Dumber, Bono & Geldof.

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  • What can we do?

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  • isn’t that called terrorism

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  • Very well-put, Brian. Being heavy-handed would only make this awful situation worse.

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    • How ? What is worse than giving Carte Blanche to MURDER. which that government are doing . How corrupt do they have to be to allow thisand WHERE are the GOOD people of Uganda ? Or are they too afraid to speak out ?

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  • Gota nuke something. Why not start here or the Middle East. Joke of course.

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  • Forget about not imposing our values on Uganda. We are doing that already by giving them aid. They aren’t complaingin about that I bet? If we are paying the piper, the we get to call the tune. If they don’t want to dance to our tune, then cut them off and let them fend for themselves! The same way the EU and IMF have done with half of europe, including us! They didn’t seem to have a problem with that!

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