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Nick Leeson: Young man’s tragedy is part of national illness of suicide

Former trader Nick Leeson knows what it is to be on the brink of despair – and says communicating the pain is vital to be able to pull back from the edge.

Nick Leeson

I SAW A very disturbing sight when I was leaving home very early recently. As I was approaching the exit to the country road that we live in, an large Garda van and two military vehicles were turning on to the road. Both of our boys thought it was quite exciting; it’s rare that we see a Garda car pass up the road but the gardai and the Army arriving at the same time was a rather unusual event.

Unfortunately there was a very sad reason for their presence. Six days earlier a young man had gone missing. The previous five days had seen his relatives and friends scouring many of the neighbouring fields, sadly to no avail. The image of men and women beating the undergrowth with sticks and hurls is rather unnerving at any time but more so when it is right on your doorstep. The arrival of the gardai suggested that the search was coming to an end. We later learned that a body had been found and that whilst my own young children would remain oblivious to what had happened, a family and many friends were grieving a lost loved one.

Suicide is a very real problem in this country. Many questions are raised about the accuracy of the reporting of incidences of suicide. The reports generally take two years to compile and even then are still relatively inaccurate and under report the true scale of the problem. The latest figures indicate that the number of suicides in Ireland reached a record high in 2009 of 527 cases. Provisional figures for 2010 suggest a decrease of 8 per cent, or 41 cases, but unfortunately in the majority of cases the provisional figures are usually revised upwards.

“The gravity of the problem seems far greater than the figures being reported”

On a purely anecdotal basis, I find the number of instances that I am personally becoming aware of to be very much on the increase. Some experts have been reported as fearing that the number may rise as high as 1,000 for the year 2012, possibly higher. These numbers seem to tally better with what I am hearing and seeing. The gravity of the problem seems far greater than the figures that are being reported and I worry that this is detracting from the enormity of the problem, especially when you consider that Ireland is also rated fifth highest in Europe for youth suicide.

I’ve faced into some very dark and desperate moments in my life. In a very short period of time, I lost my career, was imprisoned, divorced and developed cancer of the colon, none of which I had ever anticipated experiencing. Somehow I coped. Some may say that I had no choice but to cope, after I had been arrested at Frankfurt airport, thrown into prison in Hoechst.

My first six months in prison were the hardest; the incarceration, loss of freedom and an alien environment were constant pressures. The most difficult thing to deal with was the uncertainty over what the future held. There was intense speculation about the length of sentence that I was likely to face, ranging anywhere from five to 80 years. The lack of clarity was driving me to despair.

The calming voice of my lawyer on his weekly visits would suggest the lower end of the scale was likely. The daily red-top newspapers of the time suggested the higher end. Without any surety, it was impossible to look forward and the more I bounced from one to the other, the more desperate I became.

“I came up with an alternative… for a price my life could be taken away”

I contemplated suicide; I spoke to my family about it and dismissed it, thinking I could never follow through. I did however come up with an alternative. I was in prison with some very dangerous career criminals and for a price my life could be taken away. As long as I didn’t know when it was going to happen, it was a possibility. I spoke to my father at length about this and, failing a successful conclusion with the Singaporean authorities, I wanted it to happen. A price was agreed. These conversations were the most difficult that I have ever had.

Negotiations with Singapore went well; I managed to get my head around the maximum length of sentence that I was going to face and returned to Singapore. It didn’t get any easier though, the conditions were tougher than I expected and passing through each 24-hour period was unbearably
difficult.

A lack of communication had gotten me into many of the difficulties that I faced at Barings. I never asked for help and advice and with hindsight was always surrounded by people who could have helped. I was stupid not to ask counsel from these people. In prison, there wasn’t really anybody that I wanted to communicate with. I wrote letters when allowed but religiously kept a diary. I wrote every day, much of it rubbish, but it became a very real tool for me to confront and verbalise what I was feeling.

I learned to become a better communicator.

“I overcame the hurdles but only through asking for help and communicating”

Positive news is difficult to find. I know because much of what I write can be perceived to be negative. That’s because I prefer to deal with reality rather than the crazy world that many politicians exist in.

Saying that, while it is impossible to understand some of the abject despair that people are facing, what I can tell you is that we all have the innate ability to cope. Through prison, divorce and cancer there was always another hurdle – I managed to overcome them all but there is no way that I would have been able to do that without asking for help and communicating.

Please, if you feel the same, reach out, communicate your pain and ask for help.

Here are some numbers which might help:

  • Samaritans 1850 60 90 900 or email jo@samaritans.org
  • Teen-Line Ireland 1800 833 634
  • Console 1800 201 890
  • Aware 1890 303 302
  • Pieta House 01 601 0000 or email mary@pieta.ie

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Comments (31 Comments)

  • Excellent & honest article Nick. Thank you.

    There’s an Irish band called Friends Of Emmet (www.friendsofemmet.com). They have a song called “Coming Apart” which they offered as a free fundraiser to suicide awareness charities. They even shot a professional video for it.

    Unfortunately, the Irish media would prefer to play the latest pop tracks than try to support the initiative, raising funds & awareness.

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  • To those above saying how selfish it is, I can guarantee you it’s not.

    Three years ago I contemplated suicide several times a day, every day.

    Due to raising debt & other pressures, I decided that my family would be far better off without me.

    I picked the date based on the longest interval between family events so as not to “put a damper on things”, picked the method, which would be an accidental death so as the insurance would pay out & started to sort things out so there’d be the minimum fuss after.

    My wife & daughter would be looked after financially, after a couple of years they’d start to rebuild their lives & eventually my wife might meet someone new as she be still young enough to do so.

    On the outside I was perfect, laughing, joking, everything I good, but on the inside I was to all intents already dead. I’d switched off.

    My wife realised the turmoil I was in & got me to see our doctor. He diagnoses me with severe depression & signed me out of work. I had to attend a councillor, & walk every day.

    I started taking medication & I spoke to an accountant to tackle my debt problem. The best advice he could give me was that 200,000 you’re in the hole for, that’s the banks problem, no yours…

    Once I took that on board, I let go of it. While I still have the debt, I don’t have the problem anymore. The bank will get their money eventually. I left the workplace where I was having the issues (toxic place to work).

    I’m now recovering. I still get depressed but the days are few and far between. I’m still medicated & probably will be forever, but I can think clearly.

    It makes perfect sense to contemplate suicide when you see no other way out, but even just talking to a friend, or someone anonymous like the samaritans can help ease the burden.

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    • What arrangements had you made for who would find your body? Or who would identify it to the gardai? What thought did you give to your family having to go through a coroners court case?

      People can be completely blind to the consequences of suicide to their family and friends. It’s not necessarily a selfish act, more like self centred. I put this down to the lack of media coverage on the issue. People aren’t shown the effects of suicide. There’s no big movies, programs, books or news stories on the issue. Unless you have been affected by a suicide of someone close to you, you are unlikely to comprehend what it will actually put your family through.

      The other side of the issue is the absence of help for those suffering from depression. The stigma attached to it is a major factor here of course. People here the word anti-depressant and immediately think crazy.

      The only way to combat this problem is early education. I mean at junior cert level. Teach kids about what depression is and how to recognise and deal with it. Show them the effects of suicide on the people around the victim so that it doesn’t seem like a “way out”.

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    • mattoid 12/06/12 #

      Society as a whole needs to speak with the same openness and honesty that you have displayed in your post.
      Thank you for sharing your story.

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    • @ Seanbeag. I worked on the fifth floor of large building, not going to identify the company or building, it was new & there was what I saw as a design flaw in it. Every week we’d have a meeting on the eight floor. There was a very large autrium in the middle of the building & for some reason the railing was lower on the seventh floor stair landing than any others (design flaw).

      I planned to be carrying water, take a trot down the first flight spilling the water on the landing & take a tumble over the rail. A tragic accident.

      I checked the rail height several times, it only came up to my waist (just below belt height), whereas all the others went up to lower chest height. It was totally do-able as an accidental death.

      To me it was the most logical thing in the world.

      And you’re right about the stigma of depression & anti depressants. Although since going on them I’ve discovered several people I didn’t know were taking them who are. You’d be surprised at how widespread they are.

      People need to talk more. To each other & to strangers.

      One of the things friends of emmet (sorry to keep harping about them but they’re good guys) wanted to get done is to have suicide hotlines printed on all homework journals. Something every teenager has in school & uses every day & the numbers could be added at almost no cost. You think the minister for education would return a phone call?

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  • Great article. I heard someone once say “if you feel like killing yourself, wait a few years, otherwise you’ll be killing the wrong person”.

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    • mattoid 12/06/12 #

      Nice quote. In my job I have encountered many suicides and I often wonder what each individual would have gone on to become if they had not made such a permanent decision during a period of personal crisis.

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  • I really like your articles, Nick. I see this as a big problem in the work I do with people of Irish descent in England too, some of the highest suicide rates in Britain come from members of the Irish community.

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  • An open and frank article on the elephant in the room. Suicide is Ireland ‘s ( and everywhere else’s) biggest tragedy. The government put ever increasing emphasis on road safety , when road deaths drop year on year, but suicide prevention and research is under-resourced.

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    • Well pointed out Ian, it’s very sad that suicide isn’t given much move emphasis then it is. In my 30 years on this earth I’ve had personal experience of 3 suicides and only 1 road death. The only way forward is to take the stigma away from contemplating suicide, if we as a country can get do this it will be a great move forward.

      A very frank and honest article Nick, I have nothing but respect for you.

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  • “Friends of Emmet” should contact somebody like Ray Darcy. I know he’d play it every day on his show. He has a programme starting, I think, in the next few days on people and young teens taking their own lives.

    There are a lot of teens going through awful painful depression at the moment, for many reasons, one being that they are sadly listening to the parent(s) talking about not being able to pay bills, morg. Etc. Another is to do with themselves. One very important thing to watch for is a huge change in their personality. Don’t always put it down to hormonal changes. They may have told a ‘best’ friend, but the longing to tell their Mum and Dad is killing them. They need acceptance and understanding from them. One thing a parent can do, is ask their son/daughter to write them a letter. It helps, especially if the teen finds it hard to face their parents in what they are trying to share.

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    • They did Sheila, they got no response.

      They’ve featured in several MTV (US) shows including Jersey Shore & Friend Zone & also on Canada’s top rated chat Show (7.3 million viewers).

      They’re playlisted on the top stations in 14 countries, their music videos are on rotation on VH1, FTV, CTV etc in the US & Canada.

      On their last tour in the US & Canada, they sold out 12 x 3,000 – 5,000 sweater theatres on the college circuit, yet Irish media won’t play them.

      Go figure…

      -disclaimer, I’m not in the band

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    • @Fly Irish Flag,

      That’s just not right. I fear it is Irish society that is denying “Friends of Emmet”, the funds that this could bring to Aware, Suicide in Ireland is probably huge.

      On another note, I find it difficult for the establishment to accept help in many ways. I have had it (in educational terms) for over a year. I find myself making decisions to go elsewhere to share my help, and will be heading to the UK shortly as they are very willing to accept help.

      Best of luck. I will put http://www.friendsofemmet.com on my facebook page and share it.

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    • There’s a policy of not talking about suicide in the media Sheila. Not a cheery subject = not good for ratings. Someone might change the channel & not come back.

      The song is actually very uplifting & is a message of hope. It’s written about Kevin Hines who jumped from the golden gate bridge & survived. He now speaks regularly about his experience & the importance of talking.

      He has a saying “not talking about suicide makes it a bigger problem, not a smaller one”.

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  • Thanks Nick, there’s so much suffering out there and we can all play a role to make things better. We can do it at home, at work, with friends and strangers. Likewise asking for help is key, especially for men who often suffer in silence. Exercising compassion for ourselves and each other can transform things. Thanks again for this article.

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  • There are more people that die of suicide in this country each year than that die on our roads, yet a tenth of the money is given towards suicide prevention. When will this change? It’s an absolute disgrace, and is the biggest problem this country faces. And I fear that it will get much worse in years to come. We need to do all we can to address this problem now.

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  • Excellent article by Nick which should bring some solace to anyone suffering from depression

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  • Suicide has touched my family twice and in my professional career when much younger a colleague of mine also. I don’t think we can categorise or define the feelings behind why as we are all individuals and deal with life differently.What I do know is this- part of oneself dies with that person- those of us left behind are but a shell some days but as the cliche says – for those of us whose lives change forever- Life goes On-
    It is good that we can at least now talk about as Ian said the elephant in the room.
    One thing we as human beings should all take away from this is and even reading through the comments posted here is this.
    Stop labelling and start looking out for each other. Labels such as muppets etc do not serve a purpose.

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  • mattoid 12/06/12 #

    Well written article as usual Nick. Your straight-talking pieces always get directly to the heart of the subject in a rational and non-judgmental way, without all the hangups and prejudices of many other authors. Keep it up.

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  • People natrually avoid pain and danger – yet these poor people are in such a state that they are willing to take their own lives which must be a very powerful act of dispair. Ireland has a very high rate of suicide in comparison to our European friends and we have got to make an issue of this to make it clear to all contemplating this to look for help.

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  • @Irelands owen, What an uneducated and ridiculous statement…
    This is the problem… People like YOU ire owen are the very ones who ignore suicide and brush it under the carpet. What if a family member who you LOVE approached you with suicidal thoughts, would you dismiss them!?!

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  • I have retired as a counselling therapist but some time ago I wrote to various gov departments and other bodies offering my services FREE of charge to those who contacted help-lines etc.

    there was little interest in my offer, I won’t go into detail but I was saddened by the response .

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  • Excellent article Nick. This issue is being kept in the shadows. It needs to be publicised for what it is, a national crisis.

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  • Bangor in Wales high suicide rates

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  • at the end of the day Nick’s claim to fame is the fact he robbed a bank caused untold hardship to Lots of people and wrecked a whole pile of people’s dreams and ambitions to be able to provide for there families . only in Ireland do we treat them as celebrities. maybe he should run for the Dail like Mick Wallace .

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    • And there it is. Not even when Nick Leeson writes on his own brush with suicide, imploring others to get help rather that try deal with it alone, can we fail to be reminded of his banking past with some mean-spirited and totally pointless comment. He did the crime, he did the time and 13 years on, he’s now writing interesting columns on thejournal.ie. Let’s park the Barings Bank stuff, we all know the story already.

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    • Robbed? Bit over exaggeration. Remember “the value of your investment can go down as well as up and you may get back less than you invested.” It’s not like you lost any money in from Bearings collapse.

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    • No compassion, no forgiveness and harsh comment. Just a quick question do you ever see the good in anything? great article by the way..where some of us can see light at the end of the tunnel it must be such a painful place people are in when they feel the need to end their lives:(

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    • How does his past have any impact on the veracity and merit of his article?

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  • Nick I’m pleased things came good for you and you found your peace in Ireland. With respect you are not the average Joe who ends up in a dim corner with little support. Your rise to fame and fall to earth is worlds away from lonely isolated teenagers. I’m very grateful for anyone spot lighting the problem again. Perhaps the real issue is, “has the incidence of suicide in Ireland increased since the collapse of Lehman Bros” and the ensuing economic depression that has followed, where even the best of us feel worthless. If the answer is yes then Nick sorry to bring this up again but as the man blamed for the Baring bank collapse, ( even though you just contributed to their greed) should not be giving us empathetic insight into suicide.

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