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Aaron McKenna: Our nearest neighbour may leave the EU. Here’s why.

The bureaucracy, waste and profligacy of the EU repulses many people, writes Aaron McKenna – so is it any surprise the UK might want to exit?

Aaron McKenna

THE UK IS very seriously contemplating an exit from the European Union. They view it as a sickly institution, sapping the vigour from parts of their economy while offering benefits in free trade that could be gained from a less involved partnership. They’re right that the EU is an unwieldy behemoth, and we ought to be thinking about our relationship with it while we hold the presidency of the union.

The British have never been in love with the ever expanding bureaucracy and regulation emanating from Brussels and Strasbourg, and the recent troubles in the union have emboldened eurosceptics and brought the UK Independence Party into the mainstream of politics.

Our neighbours will very possibly have an in-or-out referendum on the matter after the next general election, around 2015. The current indications are for a strong out vote, though things may change with time and as various interested parties – from big business to moderate europhiles – become more vocal about staying in.

This will make for interesting times here in Ireland. When they sneeze, we tend to catch a cold and even the brooking of a discussion on membership of the EU in Britain will lead to a contagion of ideas here at home.

Rock the boat

Irish politicians are a funny small-minded lot. When he was being interviewed by Sky News about Ireland’s presidency of the council, Tánaiste Eamon Gilmore said that Britain would be “rocking the boat” if they were to withdraw from the EU, as if the act of rocking a boat in and of itself were a bad thing. The political leaders of Europe should be thinking about what it is that repulses so many people, in Britain and other European countries, about the EU; rather than thinking of eurosceptics as the counter revolutionaries to their workers paradise.

The European Union as an institution, rather than an idea, is a giant, unwieldy, slow, messy and burdensome waste of time, money, effort and breath. The EU is so profligate it has two capitals it moves itself between every few months at great expense in order to keep the French happy.

You have a president of the council; a president of the commission; a president of the parliament; and a rotating presidency of the union. Enda Kenny once proudly told us all that he’s a vice president of the European People’s Party, as if it would give him more clout with fellow party member Angela Merkel. Unfortunately, every single national party leader is a vice president. In the EU you collect offices like kids used to collect Pokemon.

Bureaucracy

It is bureaucracy writ large, with so many civil servants, special advisers, offices and quangos to its name that it would make a Fianna Fáiler flush when sitting down to work out all the allowances and expense regimes.

Think about it from an historical perspective. When we sit down and learn about opulent and grand governments, we tend to be thinking about the likes of France before the revolution or Rome before the fall. In a few hundred years when bored teenagers are learning about the European Union, little details like the two capitals will likely be the touchstone to discussions of waste and profligacy that eventually led to its downfall.

The European Union as an idea, rather than an institution, is a great one. A binding of nations in a peaceful, profitable zone of free trade, movement and shared security. To achieve this you need some measure of harmonisation between countries, but the EU does not have any limit on where it should stop encroaching into national business and as a reasonably democratically unaccountable institution you get eurocrats making work for themselves in systematically codifying every area of national life.

The EU is a perfect example of Oscar Wilde’s famous quote, “The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.” If European leaders aren’t prepared to deal with this problem, which is at the heart of the troubles many citizens have with this institution, then they must expect euroscepticism to grow.

Super-sized government

Politicians tend to be more pro-Europe than citizens, which is probably due in part to their love of super-sized government. We’ve seen that in rebuke after rebuke delivered by Irish and other citizens over the years; and more rebukes that would surely have been given if so much European businesses wasn’t cosseted away from the hands of unappreciative voters.

Instead of seeing the institution as a bloated one in need of reform, they see attacks that must be repulsed at any cost. Create a new quango to look into the issue of too many quangos and leave it at that.

I’m not a eurosceptic in the sense that I would like us to break up the EU or just leave it if and when our cousins do, although I do believe we’d be wise to consider our relationship to Europe in conjunction with our closest partner in many endeavours. I am a eurosceptic in the same way that I’m skeptical about government at home: I hate bureaucrats who waste my money.

Eurocrats

Every time a eurocrat expenses a lunch with other ‘crats over which they discuss the new regulation, body or office they’re going to create or expand for the sake of making work to do I become a little more eurosceptical. What would turn me into a europhile would be a smaller EU government, better run towards the core goals of deepening trading relationships and with more democratic accountability towards us citizens, who have been more like passengers along for the ride than invested stakeholders in recent years.

The British don’t want to leave the European Union because they’re arrogant twits who hate all the other arrogant twits in Europe. The country in which the Prime Minister operates his office from a terraced house is annoyed at Johnny Two Parliament EU because it’s a self-serving super quango. They’re right too. Instead of tut tutting at them for daring to rock the boat, European politicians might consider what they’re going to do to fix the rot before their Byzantine Empire collapses under the weight of its own opulence.

Aaron McKenna is a businessman and a columnist for TheJournal.ie. He is also involved in activism in his local area. You can find out more about him at aaronmckenna.com or follow him on Twitter @aaronmckenna. To read more columns by Aaron click here.

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Comments (81 Comments)

  • The EU strikes me as being like the HSE only bigger. Full of middle managers, committees , rules and regulations but having lost sight of what it is there to achieve and who it was designed to serve

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  • Talking of the whole “rocking the boat” thing a Dutch guy once told me that the UK had a duty to greater EU involvement to “protect the smaller countries from the Germans.”

    And he was serious.

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  • A colleague of mine put on over four stone while working on joint European research projects. I used to say he was eating for Europe. I shared in one of the projects for three years and came to the conclusion that its true purpose was really to support the airline industry, as all we seemed to do was fly back and forward to Ireland. Expenses were good though.

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  • Wow, what an excellent piece. True in every sense of the word.

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    • Yes, I rarely agree with Aaron but he’s spot on with this one.

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    • ISBA 19/01/13 #

      Agreed, brilliant article. The party won’t / can’t last. There is no leadership in the EU or in most of the individual member countries – bureaucracy can mad.

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    • Ryan'O 19/01/13 #

      Excellent excellent article and correct. Eurosceptics like myself do not want a super sized, unelected behemoth government. No thanks. Look at our corrupt eejits here, how in earth would any giant government be accountable, confronted by its people or even stopped if things got really out of hand (i wouldn’t put conscription past the Germans in 50 years time) . No thanks

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    • I hear you Ryan but you have to accept that the troika are doing a better job running this place than our ejits it’s ever did. Would having our German overlords running our affairs for a few more years be such a bad thing.
      There is definitely no home grown leadership on the horizon!

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    • Second that-always worth reading but you’ve surpassed yourself here Aaron.

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    • Ryan'O 19/01/13 #

      Yes @Jim J. Being governed by unelected German overlords as you put it would be worse IMO. I’d rather soft leadership by an Irishman in the interests of the Irish people than a consortium of technocrats anyday. I guess I’m going to stop electing europhiles though!

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  • Liam 19/01/13 #

    The concept of the European union is a good one, however the implementation of it is very poor, at least when it comes to average citizens, it is unlikely Ireland will ever leave the E.U. Our “leaders” would be terrified if they did not appease their masters.

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    • Ryan'O 19/01/13 #

      Yes your probably right. But what if the citizens wanted out? 1/3 of the population as it stands. You see the individuality of each member country is slowly being eroded. Soon it will be one mass, lead from Germany. We will have no say, no input. This is a very scary thought.

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    • elect different leaders then, you get who you vote for

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    • censored 19/01/13 #

      Actually, the biggest problem is lack of leadership from Germany … or anyone else. Just a bunch of jumped up country councillors looking after their own interests.

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    • i regard the eu as nothing more than a ponzi scheme wrapped up in glitter&fancy baubles to con the citizens of ALL the countries of Europe.its bad enough to have to pay taxes to fund our own inept government but to have to pay for selfserving power grabbing wastrells that lays waste to peoples live,s&living standards its just sicking.

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  • My small business is weighed down by cost of compliance with european legislation that our politicians and civil servants embrace with gusto to justify their existence and ridiculous salaries. Our UK neighbours and most other EC countries are more selective in choosing which legislation to comply with. Competitiveness or commercial reality doesnt feature in Ireland.

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  • Niallers I think you will find more Irish squatting in England than the other way around

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  • set asides,our seas raped by Europe, our welfare system being screwed by europeans who earn more on welfare in one week than they would in their own country,,and what did we get?…a few motorways, we comply with EU regulations but when it comes to the consumer we get a raw deal from our own government whilst EU sdtands idly by, VRT is a prime example, we should stand alongside Britain and add more rocking weight!!!

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  • This article looks at the Tory view on European Union involvement for UK and is a recurrence of Thatcherite distaste for European politics.the main reason is financial commitment for the future and associated costs without clout in Europe. The UK is the most heavily indebted country in Europe and it cannot afford to leave the Union without serious losses.

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    • I disagree that the UK is the most indebted country in the EU. In any case, maybe they’d be better off financially if they hadn’t been in Europe. For every £1 they receive from the EU, the UK puts in £6. And that’s a lot of money over the last 40 years!

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    • SamEire 19/01/13 #

      The Brits pay £53 million pounds a day to be in the EU. thats nearly 16billion a year. any debt they have would soon dry up with the savings they would make by leaving.

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    • censored 19/01/13 #

      You’re only looking at direct cost of membership, but ignoring all the economic benefits the UK receives.

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    • Nope. Direct and indirect benefits. The problem with the EU is that some countries are paying for it and some countries are benefitting from it. Saying that everyone benefits is an economic fallacy. Money isn’t created or destroyed by knocking down borders etc, it just gets spent in different ways. Since the UK joined, they’ve been paying for it, while still receiving only as much as those that haven’t. That’s not fair.

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  • Good article, love the Wilde quote and believe the Eu has become to large to be workable both in terms of membership and structure. The UK are at least 50/50 to leave, if they do we should follow suit.

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  • If they leave while still maintaining beneficial market access to the EU then, equally, their market is still open to Ireland as an EU member. Britain being out would be irrelevant to Ireland’s view on staying a member.

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    • You are right, like Switzerland.
      However what is important if they leave they still need to follow economical and trading guidelines when dealing with EU (and surely they would – biggest partner) – however they lose to have a vote anymore or any decision making. So realistically they are still strongly linked, but unable to have any input.
      Not an easy choice I suppose.

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    • If the flow of goods and services is relatively unaffected it could be a good thing for Ireland as we would be the only native English speaking nation in the EU proper. Cue many more European HQs in the country.

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    • I’ve been to Cork, so I’d dispute your native English speaking argument.

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  • Does anyone have any links to any independent research on what exactly would happen if we left the EU? Would love to see the pro’s and con’s in black and white with a simple conclusion. We can all be arm chair analysts when we want to be but would it be much better to have a definitive, extensive piece of independent research carried out with that simple question from an Irish point of view. There’s a challenge for Amárach Research.

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  • This opinion piece is a bit self serving! If the author wishes to make a case for us to leave the EU then he should pen a serious article and lay out his stall fully. A half baked argument as to why the UK might be having second thoughts really won’t do!
    The UK were reluctant joiners way back and have always been lukewarm about many facets of the union, as exemplified in their refusal to join the Euro. We do need to ask ourselves some hard questions about membership of the EU though, and in addressing those questions we need to strip away sentiment. That also means stripping away naked economic self interest!
    I look forward to reading some articles written in the proper spirit soon!

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  • The author of this idiotic tabloid piece obviously knows nothing about the EU except what he reads in the British press! EU civil service is actually tiny for the size of Europe. It has less civil servants than Manchester City Council, and has multiples less than US federal govt which has far less population.

    The reason the EU is a rules based system is precisely because it hasn’t the manpower to enforce any laws e.g. environment.

    Which staff should be cut? The ones involved in admin for Irish farmers money? Funding for Irish roads, trains? Irish SMEs? Irish students?

    Plus the EU budget is only 1% of EU GDP, 85% of which goes back to the regions and member states.

    Maybe the funding for climate change, development aid or refugees in middle east should be cut??

    Can someone tell me how Ireland alone would negotiate with Russia on energy or with China on trade??

    If anyone wishes to actually visit Brussels and learn about the EU themselves you will find the city is full of Irish people and all doing their best for Ireland and the EU.

    Finally of course there are many reforms needed, like any major organisation and i agree having two parliament seats is a waste but there are historical reasons. Many people in Brussels are trying to change it but a deal needs to be done with the French. I am sure Ireland wouldn’t like if its two Irish based agencies were closed down.

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  • The complete opposite is the actual reality. Irish politicians and media cower from confronting local sectional interests in case they loose votes, listeners or readers. All we get is a series of Phoney Wars while the elephants in the room are ignored. European straight talk will end this.

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  • Ireland could do with an Independence Party led by someone like Nigel Farage. He s worth watching on YouTube. His speeches in the European Parliment are brilliant. We need an alternative to europhile FG & FF with their Bilderberg connections – especially John Bruton.

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  • Knock Knock

    whos there?

    Aaron McKenna

    Who?

    ehh..nobody.

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  • I love that opinion columns don’t have to base themselves on facts, nor that facts should get in the way of a Murdochite nonsense. The EU does not have two capitals – the EU parliament has two seats and its shuttling between them is clearly a nonsense and clearly a waste of money – this is about the only truth in the article.

    How many Eurocrats are there? No the answer too many is not good enough. How many? And how many Eirocrats are there?

    Can Eurocrats “expense” a lunch? No they cannot. Specifically forbidden by the Kinnock budget reforms.

    It is precisely because the EU i snot a superstate that it is necessary to have the structures it has – so that every member State large and small can have a voice.

    It is precisely because every State has a voice that it takes a long time to get decisions because talking it out is far better than having it dictated by one State.

    The English have always regarded themsleves as somehow different from the rest of Europe and the people who want England out of the EU are the same people who want a free trade deal with the commonwealth, dreaming of imperial glory; they imagine a special relationship with the US, mostly because the Yanks are English speaking and part of that faded empire, but the Americans long ago saw that Germany was the beating heart of Europe and little England was a convenient offshore airbase; and the English are fed a diet of bs by News International which encourages them to believe and reproduce the kind of drivel that this columnist has excreted.

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  • Keep taking the tabloids. Without the EU we’d still be exporting cattle and young people on the hoof as a commodity.

    Our current problems are entirely self-inflicted and largely due to faith in the Brilight-touch

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  • KMart 19/01/13 #

    Going to the NCT centre with my 10 year old car, I have to come back in 1 year for another test because apparently a 10 year old car needs to be tested twice as often now. Thanks to the wonderful EU knowing best Another ?55 snatched from my pocket.

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  • Really enjoyed reading this piece, well done

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  • Excellent piece, well thought out, and pleasantly surprised at the number of positive comments. Good to see the article pointing out the differences between the EU as an idea, and the EU as an institution. All too often the two are lumped together as the same thing, making logical discussion impossible

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  • Great article! What comes to mind after reading this article is the similarities of issues that face the United States and the EU. Often Europeans are confused, befuddled, angry and appalled at the process or decisions made in the US. Though I may not always like the decisions made by the US government… The decisions are usually centrist and made to appease the majority or the minority of powerful. The outliers are often forgotten or contributions are lost in the frey. Regardless, Americans are use to the back and forth movement and the evolution of parties, this is the way has been for over 200 years.

    So EU….. May I suggest. .. Learn from the US. Study how my homeland’s united politicwl system came into being and evolved into its current state. Take the good aspects and throw out the bad and fix the current state of affairs as it relates to the trial and tribulations of growing pains of the EU.

    The countries within EU are far far older than the US, but the the US has far more experience as united country.

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  • Interesting article but can hardly be taken that seriously as it is extremely biased.

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  • Excellent article.

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  • What a poorly informed and prejudicial piece. Sure, reform is needed but throwing in stupid falsehoods like Eurocrats charging expenses for lunching together (they can’t, rightly so) just weakens any serious point you might be trying to make.

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    • ISBA 19/01/13 #

      John, which world do you live in. Come in out of the cold and smell the coffee. EU needs massive reform if it is to survive in the long term.

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    • Paul 19/01/13 #

      Agreed John. The EU population is about half a billion people, the bureaucracy is unwieldy and several things like the parliament in Strasbourg should be got rid of but considering the size of the population it’s not that big. The piece is also full of nonsense about a never-ending invasion by EU lawmakers onto national lawmakers’ turf. This simply isn’t true. The EU can only make laws in certain areas where the national governments have said so, so in fact it is quite limited in scope. Because they are not allowed to make the full range of laws a national govt would be, they have time to make pointless silly ones, but also good and detailed ones that protect our environment from our own stupidity. The EU is far from perfect, and the piece rightly asserts that it is wasteful and distant from reality in a lot of ways, but apart from that it is mainly a Tory rant.

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    • Les Reed 19/01/13 #

      You are right. Better to work towards reforming the EU from within than walking away from it. Given the extreme prejudice Ireland would face in unpicking itself from the Euro leaving the Union is not a credible option anyway. How, exactly, could Ireland leave the EU and still be part of the Eurozone? Possible as a theory perhaps but not in the real world.

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  • And the reason they’ll not leave is because the yanks told them not to

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  • Ion Ne 19/01/13 #

    Applus+ is operating the National Car Testing service on behalf of the Road Safety Authority and is committed to providing the highest standards of customer service. We are the only provider of the service nationwide and are totally independent of the motor industry and do not engage in garage service and repair activities. When having your vehicle inspected by the Applus+ NCTS you will receive a fair, uniform and impartial service.

    Partial if they asked you to come back and pay 28 euros for a 2 seconds visual check?

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  • What has always troubled the UK is that they knew from the beginning they wouldn’t be the leaders and one of the big boys.
    They still have a 100 year old colonist mindset and don’t seem to realist that that world has passed them out and their relevance has dimished considerably.
    Leaving the EU wiuld not be a good thing for the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland

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  • Johnny Foreigner! Fog in the Channel, Europe cut off! ‘The country in which the Prime Minister operates his office from a terraced house…’ Do me a favour, what a load of tosh. The Tories want out because the British people need to know their rightful place in society; doffing their caps to the local squire as he parades down the high street. Cameron is a pussy and, as for UKIP, they were quick to climb upon the anti-gay bandwagon, weren’t they? Anyway, Charlie Windsor still requires his massive subsidies from the CAP, so it won’t happen. Stop bloody moaning and get back to work.

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  • Good Riddance..!

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  • The EU is just a big jumbo government, and big governments don’t work.

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