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Referendum roundup: 15 days to go

Austerity treaty, stability treaty or somewhere in between? TheJournal.ie keeps you up to date with our evening Fiscal Compact referendum bulletin.

Economist Dr Andy Storey (UCD) pictured at a press conference in the Mont Clare Hotel in Dublin organised by the Campaign Against Austerity Treaty
Economist Dr Andy Storey (UCD) pictured at a press conference in the Mont Clare Hotel in Dublin organised by the Campaign Against Austerity Treaty
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

EVERY EVENING, THEJOURNAL.IE brings you the latest news and campaign moves, squabbles and – hopefully – useful tidbits of information as we face into the 31 May Fiscal Compact referendum.

(If you just want to make up your mind by yourself, you can read TheJournal.ie‘s layman’s guide to the treaty).

WHAT’S NEW?

  • There was a bit of confusion this morning, after Cabinet Minister Ruairi Quinn said the government would consider holding off on formally ratifying the Fiscal Compact even if the electorate vote Yes on 31 May. However, a spokesperson for the Minister later clarified the Government’s position to TheJournal.ie, saying: “If the people of Ireland pass the referendum on May, it will be implemented by the government without delay.”
  • The Minister for Finance Michael Noonan told the Bloomberg Economic Summit in Dublin, that rejecting the Treaty would be dangerous for Ireland – but that voting Yes would limit fiscal recklessness, attract Foreign Direct Investment, guarantee access to the ESM, and bring certainty to the country.
  • Tanáiste Eamon Gilmore echoed Noonan’s sentiments, discussing the benefits of a Yes vote while speaking to the American Chamber of Commerce. He said the acceptance of the Treaty would bring stability to Ireland and send a positive signal to US investors and employers that they could have confidence in the country. He added that, through the investment of 600 US businesses in Ireland, they had a “real stake” in the country’s future.
  • The European Movement Ireland is due to hold a public information forum on the Fiscal Treaty tomorrow, and will feature speakers from academic, business, economic and trade union sectors speaking about their perspectives of the Treaty.

DIG OF THE DAY:

MaryLou took a pop at Enda earlier, tweeting: “Looking forward to tomorrow’s Treaty debate @nwci. Shame Enda Kenny still scared to debate…”

marylou

TODAY’S “MOMENT OF CLARITY”

04/05/12 Campaign for the European Stability Fisca

Fine Gael Dublin Central TD Paschal Donohoe has praised Deputy Mick Wallace for his “rare moment of openness and clarity”, after Wallace said the No side of the Treaty debate was divided. Donohoe also turned his sights on Deputy Shane Ross, saying that time had come for him to state where he stood on the Treaty – adding: “He must be giving himself splinters he has been sitting on the fence for so long.”

Fighting words.

ANTICIPATED DEBATES OF THE DAY

Sinn Fein deputy leader Mary Lou McDonald, UKIP Leader and MEP Nigel Farage, and trade union leader John Douglas of Mandate will argue against the treaty on Today FM’s The Last Word tomorrow. Meanwhile, Fianna Fail leader Michael Martin, businesswoman Nicola Byrne, and a Labour Minister are to argue in favour. Sparks will surely fly.

UNEXPECTED CHUCKLE OF THE DAY

16/05/2012. Campaign for the European Fiscal Stabi

They may be calling for a No vote, but that doesn’t mean that economists Michael Taft (UNITE the Union), Prof Terence McDonagh (NUI Galway) and Dr Andy Storey (UCD) can’t share a joke. (Image:  Laura Hutton)

Read in full: The Fiscal Compact treaty in layman’s terms (PDF)

In full: TheJournal.ie‘s coverage of the Fiscal Compact referendum

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Comments (19 Comments)

  • Whats stopping the greater powers in EU imposing fines or certain conditions on Ireland if we don’t increase our corporate tax and resulting in our government having to do so! Can’t see how they can guarantee anything!

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    • I agree with you Barry! The more I read about this treaty, the more I get concerned about the people in charge. It’s becoming clearer that nobody really knows what the effect of voting no or yes is going to have! Kenny, Noonan and the wealthy only care about protecting themselves and their good living standards! Therefore a yes vote is more likely to achieve this! The rest of us don’t really know what’s going to happen! Is this why they’re calling it a stability treaty? As my living standards have been cut in half since austerity kicked in, stability doesn’t hold a whole lot of appeal! It leaves me with no option but to vote no! If this stability is the best they have to offer, then it’s really only a matter of time before society falls apart and descends into anarchy!

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    • Why would European powers force an increase in our 12.5% corp rate? They have plans to make the rate less important with the CCTB. It means consolidated corp tax base. It is bad that we joined the euro but that is water under the bridge. Hard to know how things will turn out, is it not?

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  • How come Noonan’s comments about feta cheese are not quoted?

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    • Well for Noonan. Can sit around having a good chuckle about Greece’s problems. He’s a shleeveen same as Kenny. Makes me wanna puke

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    • He’s worse, Kenny only states what Merio tells him, as scripted by his advisors. MeHole Noonan on the other hand is a cunning weasle. Would Feta gate be any less racist than if he were to say that Constantin should get the first flight back to Moscow. These people just cant help themselves. MeHole is second only to Michael McDowell in his capacity for condescending arrogance. The man should have horns sticking out of his head!

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  • I cant see how Corporation Tax is protected as Gilmore stated earlier today. Am I misreading the amendment?

    “No provision of this Constitution … prevents laws enacted, acts done or measures adopted by bodies competent under that Treaty from having the force of law in the State.”

    Surely this means that bodies competent can insist we raise corporation tax. If not I’d love if u could explain to me how it is protected

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    • The power to change any tax rests with the Irish government and the Dáil.

      Anyone can present corporation tax as a condition for funding, but it is ultimately up to the government to accept or reject that charge.

      This government has made it abundantly clear that they would reject such a condition.

      The only way to 100% guarantee protection for the corporate tax rate would be to put it in the constitution but that’s unnecessary.

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    • Untrue. No provision of the constitution can prevent bodies competent from enacting laws which have force of all in the state. It doesn’t have to be the govt

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  • Terry, Just using Corp. Tax as an example, comments were made about how the Irish gov have the last word on how they run the country etc etc., the EU powers that be can simply impose fines and strict regulations on Ireland forcing the Irish gov. to do what they require. 1 example being this stability treaty!

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  • The single currency is the glue that keeps Europe at peace. A vote no will weaken that glue and that peace.

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  • I no longer have a vote as I have thankfully left Ireland, however, much as I would like to see the Irish Government get a bloody nose, in all honesty, were I there I would feel that if Ireland is to have a future it has to be a yes vote. The alternative is living on spuds, talking Irish and comely maidens dancing at the crossroads.

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  • The European project from the inception of the coal and steel agreement through EEC, EU and monetary union has snuffed out one by one conflicts across the continent, including our own sectarian conflict here in the north of our country. A no vote only weakens the project and risks a return of those conflicts.

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    • Kevin 18/05/12 #

      This comment is completely brain dead. The examples that you have used include “a coal and steel agreement” of some description (whatever the hell that is), the EU, and monetary policy. I would like to point out that none of these initiatives apply to Northern Ireland bar the EU. Alex… people in the north didnt wake up one day and say , “ah sure we still hate each other but now that we’re all in the EU we may as well jut try to get along! It would be extremely naive and quite frankly stupid to think that Europe will go to war because we have to start using a beurau de change again.

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