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The 9 at 9: Saturday

Nine things to know this morning, including a row between Church and State, the wrong type of Roscommon U-turn, and a bad day for Lady Gaga…

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EVERY DAY, TheJournal.ie brings you nine things you really ought to know with your morning cup of coffee.

1. #CONFESSION: The children’s minister Frances Fitzgerald has insisted that admissions of crime made during a Church confession – which are currently privileged and not legally admissible – will not be exempted from new rules on reporting child abuse. The Church has hit out at the plans, saying the sacramental seal of confession was “above and beyond all else”.

2. #ROSCOMMON: The family of first patient who was required to travel from Roscommon to hospital in Castlebar, because of the withdrawal of A&E services in Roscommon, say their father was ultimately forced to go back to Roscommon for treatment – because his hospital records couldn’t be accessed from Mayo. The family of John Bligh tell their story in today’s Irish Daily Mail.

3. #NORTHERN IRELAND: Police have been confronting up to 100 rioters in overnight disturbances in Portadown, BBC News reports. The disturbances follow rioting earlier this week to mark the Twelfth of July.

4. #SEANAD: It has emerged that 13 members of the Seanad are entitled to a share of a €434,000 payout – for getting promoted. The 13 members were all former local councillors who had to give up their council seats when they won election to the Seanad earlier this year – and are now entitled to severance from the local authorities. Gordon Deegan’s report is carried in many of today’s papers.

5. #DRESS CODE: Downstairs in Leinster House, the Irish Times reports that tensions are brewing between the Ceann Comhairle and the Taoiseach over the latter’s decision to delay introducing a dress code for Dáil business. The Dáil would need to have final approval on the proposals, but with the houses rising for holiday this week, there’s no vote scheduled in the draft agenda.

6. #HACKING: Rupert Murdoch has commissioned full-page adverts in all national newspapers in the UK today, apologising personally for the conduct of some staff at the News of the World over the phone-hacking affair. Yesterday Murdoch lost two CEOs – including Les Hinton, of Dow Jones, who has been a lifelong friend to the billionaire.

7. #METRO NORTH: A decision on the Metro North is officially due in a few months, but the decision could be made very easy – because the Irish Independent’s print edition says Dublin Airport could be served by a DART extension for only a tenth of the cost. The Fingal Independent had previously reported that the scheme could be set for a DART rebrand.

8. #BANAMA REPUBLIC: The High Court has been told that developer David Daly – who was given 24 hours’ notice to repay €457m in loans by NAMA – has been told he cannot appeal NAMA’s decision to appoint receivers to his properties, because he never appealed NAMA’s acquisition of his loans in the first place.

9. #GOING GAGA: It’s not been a great few days for Lady Gaga. Not only has Rihanna overtaken her to become the most popular musical act on Facebook, but her UK fan website has also been compromised by hackers who may have accessed personal details of tens of thousands of users.

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  • “above and beyond all else” including the safety of children. Says it all really doesn’t it.

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  • How about this, no priest can give absolution until the asshole (guilty person) can prove they have confessed to a member of the Gardaí. If the priest then thinks its ok to forgive someone who hurts or abuses a child, then thats between that priest and God. Personally I think anyone who abuses a child should burn in hell for eternity, and I also believe that ANYONE (including priests) who can abuse a child could not possibly believe in God.

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  • Catholic church,

    Shame child safety wasn’t above all else. And, you’re a shame to God and His religion.

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  • I can’t believe any Minister could make a statement like that without taking advice. I don’t know if she’s Catholic or not, and it really doesn’t matter if she is or not-she shouldn’t be making statements without knowing the facts. By saying “that admissions of crime made during a Church confession – which are currently privileged and not legally admissible – will not be exempted from new rules” she is asking clergy to break Canon Law, and to face excommunication. It’s black and White-they are FORBIDDEN from discussing it.. They have no choice. It’s not a matter of conscience. They can encourage the person to go to the Gardai, but that’s it.

    This is just a smokescreen. The real answer to this has nothing to do with the Church. All we have to do is to treat Clergy the exact same way as any other citizen, without ANY favour.

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  • The problem is this so-called “canon law” and the way that it is being taken seriously by everybody, including some legislators. Like Sharia Law, this is essentially a set of rules pertaining to members of one group, and has no relevance to civil society whatsoever. We would be incensed if some mad cleric used the excuse of sharia law to avoid letting the authorities know of criminal activity, but we accept that canon law is somehow different.
    Decades ago, we decided to separate church and state, but in some people’s heads this never actually happened. All credit to Gilmore and Kenny for having the guts to take the side of citizens on this occcasion. Past experiences with Michael Woods and Bertie Ahern were different; they allowed sectarian interests to come before the common good.
    I still find it difficult to reconcile the catholic church avowed stance on moral issues with its willingness to stick the taxpayers with the cost of the redress claims. If they had any moral fibre, they would immediately step forward and pay the entire 1.4 billion costs that they are responsible for. They could get it the same way they get money for church roofs and other such projects — by levying their members, or by getting some support from their head office in Rome.
    Finally, in these difficult times, why do we need all the cost and duplication associated with two embassies in Rome? A desk in the diplomatic mission to Italy could easily deal with any issues pertaining to the so called “holy see.”

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  • Its can be comforting to think of this as a row between Church and State, but it over plays the distinction and very close relationship between the two since the inception of the State itself.

    Myself and few other put this podcast together >> The Church and State: How They Made Society Silent
    http://www.mixcloud.com/Soundmigration/the-church-and-state-how-they-made-society-silent/

    We went out on to the streets to see what people think themselvers and have interview with :
    Diarmuid Ferritter on the very singular role that the Church played in moulding and dealing with Social Policy from the start of the State.
    Mary McAuliffe from the organisation Justice For Magdalenes speaks about the extent that the State and the Church were complicit in the brutalisation and enslavement of generations of young women.
    The subsidiary role allotted to women in Irish society thanks to the Church is illustrated and spoken about by Dr. Helen Keyes
    Mannix Flynn about how he feels we can best move on as a society

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  • The concept of sacerdotal privilege covers matters revealed in the confessional (and may also cover matters revealed in counselling). So it may require a referendum to address this if Shatter, Fitzgerald et all press ahead with requiring abuse raised in the confessional to be referred to the child protection system. There’s a certain amount of smoke and mirrors stuff going on with the politicos at the moment. Quite apart from the legal side, there is the fact that many, probably most, concerns referred to the HSE at the moment are ignored because they are totally swamped. I did not hear Fitzgerald acknowledging this on the radio the other morning. I wouldn’t be too impressed at the moment by Shatter and Fitzgerald’s agonising.

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