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‘The war is over’: McGuinness offers to meet dissident republicans

Elsewhere, the party’s Ard Fheis in Killarney has heard speeches on the economy and emigration as it prepares to hear from president Gerry Adams later this evening.

Martin McGuinness address delegates at the Sinn Féin Ard Fheis in Killarney, Co Kerry earlier today.
Martin McGuinness address delegates at the Sinn Féin Ard Fheis in Killarney, Co Kerry earlier today.
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

THE DEPUTY FIRST Minister of Northern Ireland Martin McGuinness has offered to hold talks with dissident republicans during a speech at the Sinn Féin Ard Fheis in Killarney today.

McGuinness, the party’s presidential candidate in last year’s election, said that “the war is over” and that his party was in the process of building a “new Republic” that dissidents can be part of.

Speaking to delegates in Kerry this morning, he addressed the dissidents directly.

“Today I want to send a message directly to them, I am offering them an opportunity to meet and talk, come and tell us what you hope to gain by deluding yourselves and the gullible that your actions will succeed in what is certainly a pathetic and futile attempt to turn back the clock,” he said.

McGuinness said that recent attacks by dissidents on “vulnerable young people” needed to stop and insisted that he did not want to return the North to the violence and troubles of the past.

“The war is over and we are in the process of building a new Republic and you can still be part of that,” he said to the dissident republicans. ”There is plenty of room within the political process for voices who oppose the Sinn Féin strategy.

I was part of the conflict, I was there during the difficult and tragic times we had in the past and let me tell you there was nothing romantic about the war, it was hard, it was painful and it was traumatic and I never ever want the children of Ireland who live today in peace to be subjected to the conflict, pain and hurt that we lived through.

“I never want to be attend another funeral of a Police Officer or any other member our society who lost their lives due to violence, so I appeal to you for dialogue but I also say to you that the process of building a new future will continue with or without you, it is your call.”

Economy

Elsewhere, speeches at the party’s Ard Fheis today have focused on the issue of the Irish economy today. Speeches later today will also focus on housing and healthcare.

The party’s foreign affairs spokesperson Pádraig Mac Lochlainn said that the country is now back in recession and criticised the austerity policies of the government.

He said: “It has been four years since Fianna Fail ran our economy into the ground. We have had five austerity budgets. A total of €24 billion has wrenched from the domestic economy in tax hikes and cuts to vital health, education and community services.

“And where has this policy of austerity got us? The economy is now officially back in recession. The domestic economy has never been out of recession.

“Unemployment continues to scar our communities. 440,000 people languish on the live register while 115,000 people are in serious mortgage distress and 1,500 people are emigrating every week.  Austerity simply isn’t working.”

Senator Kathryn Reilly highlighted the issue of emigration in her speech, pointing out the effect that it was having on GAA clubs around the country.

She pointed out that the London GAA club had seen an increase in the number of Gaelic football, hurling and camogie teams it was fielding “because of the failure of successive Governments to retain our best and brightest.”

Later this evening, the party’s president and leader in the Dáil, Gerry Adams, will address delegates in a speech to be broadcast live on RTÉ television from 5.20pm.

He is expected to outline the party’s opposition to the Fiscal Compact treaty referendum next Thursday.

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Comments (20 Comments)

  • mart_n 26/05/12 #

    Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he was condoning dissidence today people would be outraged and demanding that he get over the past and move on. When he condemns it people say that he has a cheek for doing so.

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  • finbar m 26/05/12 #

    Collins ,dev ,,and many others were tge same ,,, yes ppl have short

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  • Well like him or not he’s done more for Ireland than most , I am not a SF befor the red thumbs start but he spent 8 weeks in the US last year pushing for dollars to be pumped in this country . So I don’t care of his past he has Ireland on top of his mind so that comes first

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  • He must be short of cheap diesel

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  • “Today I want to send a message directly to them, I am offering them an opportunity to meet and talk, come and tell us what you hope to gain by deluding yourselves and the gullible that your actions will succeed in what is certainly a pathetic and futile attempt to turn back the clock,” he said.

    It’s a little ironic to hear him speaking in this tone, as this is what people wanted him, Adams and the rest of them to do back in the ’60′s and ’70′s. We’ve always had the Republic, he and the rest of them were bombing, maiming many when it suited him, to fight for an “all Ireland”. Amazing what old age does to someone, one good thing about old age is that it brings some sense to one’s mind. He and others are only doing what we wanted (ordinary hard working citizens) him to do years ago. Nothing has changed in the lie of the land, It’s still 26 counties and 6 counties.

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  • For godssake mcguinness and
    Co didn’t decide to just go out and start bombing people for the craic, some people make it sound so flippant, but it was never an easy choice. Yes they could have went the peaceful route, fighting for their human rights, but they didnt. It was a war and eveyone lived in fear. A world of pain later, they have worked tirelessly towards peace. You say people wanted the IRA to do what mcguinness is now asking dissidents to do, back in the day… ( I might add that the north never received the support it should have from the republic who knows, maybe some of it could have been avoided)
    And then they actually did move on!

    But we are the ones who actually can’t move on when we make partitionist statements about us and them and the 26 counties and the 6 counties. we judge them so cynically from the comfort of the Republic. We had no idea then, we barely have an idea now, we are desensitised to the causes that led to the bloodshed and hurt in the first place, and let’s face it, most of us clearly don’t want to know, from our condemning attitudes.

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    • @ Ailis McKernan,

      Yes, all of them on all sides did have a choice! Sit down and talk for however bloody long it takes 40 years ago and maybe there would have been some kind of solution. But now, 40 years later after 1,000s of deaths on all sides people like Adams and Mcguinness, I can only assume are actually willing to talk now. They can’t assume that the ‘new age’ of terrorists will listen to them, why should they, Adams and McGuinness didn’t listen to reason back then. This is what has been born out of the troubles when they were part of it.

      Very few will believe people like Adams and McGuinness are willing to accept what was there 40 years ago, which is UK rule in the 6 counties. It’s no different today than it was back then. If this is what both of them are saying well, I feel that are peeing on their ‘comrades’ as they call them and the waste of innocent lives is shameful.

      Until Adams and McGuinness stand down and let the new people/members of the future Sin Fein take over, nobody on this land will believe that both of them have actually laid down their arms forever. I know McGuinness and/or Adams is aiming to be the President of Ireland some day in the future but this cannot happen as they are part of the horrible past.

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    • Sitting down and talking doesn’t really work when civil rights marches are beaten off the streets, or when 14 innocent people are murdered by the British state in Derry. Not to mention that any attempt of enfranchising catholics were resisted by the Orange State. Democratic methods failed in the North, the Sunningdale Agreement and resulting fallout illustrates this point. Unionist intransigence, British colonial policy, and the apathy of the southern political establishment all contributed to the conflict which created a vacuum allowing the PIRA to thrive.

      Also, to say that the situation in the North is exactly the same as it was 40 years ago is not entirely true. Catholics are no longer second class citizens, have a equal representation in the assembly, and also have their rights as Irish citizens recognized. However, the current situation is nonetheless undesirable and is indeed a meek return for the PIRA campaign.

      I don’t particularly like Adams and McGuinness either, I find them both stilted and uninspiring, and Sinn Féin would indeed poll better without them. But I don’t think they should barred (for want of better expression) from politics because of their past. Almost every politician elected in the period following the emergence of the Free State had a “horrible past”, indeed most parties in this state have a “horrible past”. Also, while it is indeed somewhat hypocritical of McGuinness to lecture dissidents of the fruitlessness of political violence, is he not the most qualified to do so? And if he doesn’t, who else will?

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  • Thankfully not everyone thinks like you Patrick……

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    • So indiscriminate bombings, murder, summary kneecappings etc and a campaign of violence waged over a period of 30 years is not criminality? Even against the overwhelming wishes of the population? Really?

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    • mart_n 26/05/12 #

      Not to sound as if I’m excusing them, smithan, but the overwhelming majority of people were against many military actions and interventions over the last number of decades. They still happened though.. I guess it doesn’t matter so much because the people involved were in uniform. Bear in mind your comment when/if the US et al go into Iran, and be aware that over 70% of people in the US oppose such a move, and up to 90% of the people from other countries which would likely be involved.

      Conflicts very rarely have the backing of a majority.

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  • Ffs Provisional Sinn Féin/Provisional IRA’s terrorism was not war. It was criminality.

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  • Ahh isn’t that the great thing about politics ….

    -People have short memories
    And
    -revisionism is rarely questioned

    MMcG is a thug and a terrorist, as are many others in SF.
    To characterise him as a ‘leader’has most application to his military background, where he was involved in the execution of many PIRA ‘operations’

    You can still be shot through the back of the knees in Derry if you don’t agree with what the masked men tell you to do.

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  • finbar m 26/05/12 #

    Memories

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  • @Martin O Regan

    I am one that was a teenager in the ’60′s ’70′s. I know all about it. Even after all those years of IRA/Sin Fein, UDA, UVF, UDA etc. etc. fighting trying to get one up on each other and killing, maiming innocent people in the middle of it, things are still the same. There are the 26 counties and the 6 counties. No different. Just 1,000′s unfortunately dead, murdered on all sides. The only good that has come out of it is that children can play on their street, people can go shopping without the fear of the store in front of them being blown up. That, is good. Anybody could have and did tell the IRA/Sin Fein, UDA etc. that bombing and killing people was not going to get what they wanted.

    Talking is best, even if it takes another 100 years it’s better than blowing a child to bits where their parents are peeling parts of their child/s body off a wall. Obviously, I hope, Adams, McGuinness and the rest realise that now. The ‘disdidents’ which are I would assume young men just like Adams and McGuinness was, are copying them and doing what both of them were doing to others for years.

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  • Martin McGuinness’s speech is like one a Cumann NaGaedhaeler would give in the 1920s after coming to power or a Fianna Failer would give in the 1930s after coming to power.

    We need to put the genie of physical force politics in Ireland back in its bottle, in my opinion. We won’t be doing that by commemorating the 1916 uprising/attempted coup. Until that genie is put back in its bottle, there will always be dissidents who will believe that violence is a legitimate means to a political end and they will always have support.

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  • Correction: Mr.McGuinness ran as an independent in the 2011 presidential elections.

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