Well 48% compared to 44% of CNN viewers thought Ryan won so I don’t know what ‘surprise’ you are referring to.

Ryan lost his father as a young boy and worked his way through school and college to get himself an education. He is an intellectual powerhouse of the Republican Party. If you watched the debate you’ll see that Ryan had a much better grasp of policy and financial facts.

Regardless, the VP debate is really only a side-show…

I wonder who Higgins would have picked as a VP!?!

Ryan lost his father at a young age and was able to “mooch” on the education system using “survivor’s” social security payments from the US federal government. A ladder he is now anxious to pull up behind him & deny to those coming behind.

@Winston – I should vote for someone whose policies are cruel and who is a fundamentalist because his father died?

Paul Ryan, the candidate of choice for those who think that George W Bush was a communist.

@Dote, if you know anything about the US social security services there is no chance anybody could survive AND put themselves through college on it alone. Hence he worked several jobs through college to supplement his income.

@Kevin, I’d be interested to know how you somehow managed to interpret that I was advocating a vote for anyone from my comments. You seem to be intellectually incapable of appreciating the difference between a statement of facts and the advocation of a position.

@Kevin, FYI Biden served in the Senate, not congress…

That doesn’t detract from the fact that Ryan was assisted by the government, but wants to deny that opportunity to others. No one is denying that he worked hard – but it’s easy take aid away from the most vulnerable if you’re not one of them.

Whatever, Senate or Congress; people get the point.

Show me where he advocates abolishing free healthcare for the poor.

CNN viewers are idiots.

CNN mention on their website that Republicans were overrepresented in that poll.

“One-third of the respondents who participated in tonight’s survey identified themselves as Republicans, with 31% identifying themselves as Democrats, and 34% identifying themselves as independents.

“That indicates that the sample of debate watchers is more Republican than an average of recent CNN polls of all Americans,” adds Holland.

The CNN poll was conducted by ORC International, with 381 registered voters nationwide who watched the debate questioned by telephone. All interviews were conducted after the end of the debate. The survey’s sampling error is plus or minus five percentage points.”

@ Kevin: I suppose everyone who holds a view you disagree with is an idiot. But one thing – they were asked based on the debate who won – not who they would vote for. And if they thought Ryan was better debating, why should they lie and say Biden?

@ Xadovan: Thanks for pointing that out. I just found it strange that the article did not mention this poll which contradicted it and feared that Business Insider was partisan as most US media tends to be, but as you point out the margin of error is 5% so it is not statistically significant.

A CBS News survey of undecided voters showed Mr Biden as the winner by 50% to 31%. Obama 2/5 to win with the bookies.

@Ryan – Xadonvan’s reply would sum it up.

“CNN mention on their website that Republicans were overrepresented in that poll.

“One-third of the respondents who participated in tonight’s survey identified themselves as Republicans, with 31% identifying themselves as Democrats, and 34% identifying themselves as independents.

“That indicates that the sample of debate watchers is more Republican than an average of recent CNN polls of all Americans,” adds Holland.”

Xadovan, the CNN statement does not say Reps were over-represented, it says there were more Reps than an average of recent CNN polls. There is a big difference between the two statements. Secondly, one third is 33% meaning there is 2% more republicans than Democrats. What an over-representation indeed.

@Dom – I am not misrepresenting anything

“SPECIAL NOTE OF CAUTION #2: The sample of debate-watchers in this poll were 31% Democratic and 33% Republican. That indicates that the sample of debate watchers is about eight points more Republican than an average CNN poll of all Americans, so the respondents were more Republican than the general public.”

Well according to monthly Rasmussen Reports from June 2012, 35.4% identified as Republicans, 34.0% as Democrats and 30.5% were unaffiliated. The CNN’s disclaimer should read: CAUTION, unlike what we did in the past where we grossly under-represented Republican affiliated population, we actually managed a poll sample which actually reflects the population of US.

Cian,

Boo! It’s all part of the great pro-gay, anti-republican conspiracy!

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