Simples! :)

ban yourself and crush your mind.

Good man Alex, perfect sense! ?!

And that’s worse than midday rallying? How so? Because the rally crowd have a permit and road closures? How about affording the same good grace to those wishing to drag race.

Midday rallying with a permit means its legal and their is safety pro-cautions in place,

Racing at 3am is endangering other road users and also risking their own lifes and other people’s propertys, if they are racing they are also likely speeding and as such it is very much illegal.

Don’t disagree with ya Barry just playing devils advocate. So where did we land with providing a place and time that would allow these activities be carried out in a safe manner like rallies?

Dont go driving on an empty head

Daithi, racetracks mate, Watergrass Hill, Mondello park and so on! That’s what they are there for, public roads at night certainly aren’t the place! I also have a few mates who regularly organise to use industrial estates, they get permission and it’s well run, there is no excusing using public roads!

Damian i was never suggesting public roads at night were the place for this kind of behaviour. Was merely suggesting ya can’t demonise those involved unless there is an alternative. Fair point about the race tracks although they are a fair trip from Mayo. Never heard of any such industrial estates seams like a great idea, and plenty empty ones lying around the west of Ireland too.

Lack of regulation seems to haunt Ireland in many aspects.
As far as boy racers go I have only one comment.
The easiest way to spot one by day is by listening.
Their exhausts are a dead giveaway.
Lowered suspension, engine tuning kits etc.
Many if which are illegal.
I am by no means a compadre of the Gardai.
But if you want to get something done.
Just do it !!!
But then again. What good is a dog without teeth?

Good idea, I’ve known lads with 300bhp imprezas and evo’s who hadn’t got their licence more than a year, because they could pay the insurance they could drive them. Madness indeed. The Celtic tiger burst has put a lot of them back in sensible cars.

And to the earlier poster who advocated having organised places for this kind of messing at rallies etc. Rally organisers and the vast majority of competitors don’t want anything to do with any of this behaviour, evidence could be seen in the Rally of the lakes programme this year which had a full page telling boy racers they weren’t welcome. As somebody who has been involved in organising rallies and competing behaviour like this is contributing to rallies being cancelled.
The Galway international rally was cancelled for a few years because of the messing that went on over the rally weekend. Please bear in mind that rallies bring a lot of money to local businesses over an event and the loss of such revenue can be the difference between a business staying open or closing.

Another argument I wish to address is the one where it was asked what was the difference between late night racing and rallying so here goes:

Street drag racing is dangerous and cars generally have no driver protection in the event of an accident. I’ve seen some car fitted with roll cages like rallycars have and the fact is where they might offer a bit of protection, if your bit wearing a helmet and hit your head off it in an accident it will very likely do you serious damage and maybe even kill you! ( I know somebody who is permanently brain damaged because of this very thing. A life ruined )

Rallycars are designed with safety in mind and will have all the necessary equipment to give the driver a better chance of survival should something happen ie. fire protection,crash protection etc etc

Rallies are also highly organised so there is always someone close by to help out and there is always a recur crew and ambulance within a few miles! Racers don’t have any of this!!

I could go on and on but this carry on of racing makes my blood boil.

If you want to drag race do it properly with all the safety gear at an irfan used event.

If you want to drive fast then buy a rallycar or a racecar and again do it properly at the likes of mondello etc.

If you want to burn the back tyres off the back of your twincam or other rwd cars then get into drifting and do it properly in an organised fashion.

The last word, Keep the race in its place!

And become a minority recognised by the state, that’ll make ya few pound too…

Simple answer is if he removes the cars he’ll loose revenue. Simples. Also majority of these cars pass the NCT with the ”modifications” and I think you’d be surprised how many declare mods to their insurance. As for those that don’t there’s two arguments 1) They’re morons 2) how about not letting insurance companies pull figures out of a hat and have them base their premium rates on the risk applicable to the driver in question?

They only have to be declared to your insurance company, and not the Department of Transport unless there is a change in engine size or colour of the vehicle. The installation of mods would have no affect on the NCT unless they actually caused the car to fail on an element of the test.

Ya and who is going to buy them only other boy racers. Crush the things and be done with it.

Careful now

I asked the two of you for some dignified protest

Exactly Jim. It’s not like there aren’t stations in every little hamlet, over-staffed by copious Gardai with two patrol cars each and limitless overtime. Lazy.