I’ve lived in Whitechurch for 10 years.
There are travellers living across the road from me, and several African families around the place.
Never once has there been an incident of racial intimidation that I’ve either seen or heard about.
Pity you used this Afghan family’s misfortune to spout your unfounded bile.
You might have used your time a little more constructively.

This incident occurred outside my estate. I’ve lived here for 27 years and never once have I, or others I know, had trouble around the area. Like every area you’re going to get the odd bad egg. Don’t be so quick to say “this is not a new thing”.

Are there now flights back to Afghanistan?

Tell us more Winston. Maybe Johnny Foreigner was cycling two-abreast and deserved this jolly good thrashing????

@Winston

A 13 year old attacked by 4 grown skum bags and racists who are only allowed to exist because they receive generous welfare from the hardworking tax payer is not really that difficult to understand, Winston!

What kind of deeper knowledge would be required in your opinion?
It’s crystal clear, ffs!

The skum should be taken off the welfare list ,kicked out of their social housing and left to their own devices! If they can’t manage and starve to death all the better, good riddance!

Matt, Where does it state that they are on Social Welfare? Or are you indulging in some bias of your own? Sadly, it is not so easy to pigeonhole racists or thugs.

I didn’t deny or diminish the headline at face value. I prefer to have a fuller story than that presented above. It is usually the second reaction after initial horror to want to know why an incident happened. Maybe it was a purely random attack on three youths who were cycling back from the Park, I don’t know. I hope it wasn’t.

@Lily

Agreed it’s just an assumption but in my experience more often than not those kind of crimes are committed by the track suit sporting welfare sponger brigade!
But true skum is skum no matter what background!

Matt sadly it not just those receiving generous welfare who are engaged in racism.

@Winston

Fair enough!

What does “engaged in racism” actually mean? Is it similar to a hobby or a sport?

Is English not your first language Peter?

@Lisa Saputo,
Sherlock Holmes is only an idiot compared to you.

No Rich….does it show?

@nab, you appear to have missed the point by thinking that the one example I gave is the only situation. On pretty much any story of attack/assault where the headline doesn’t mention nationality or religion check the comments and then check where the alleged victims have been identified as muslim or middle Eastern and if you come back and tell me that there is no difference it’ll be a laughable reply. I don’t expect a reply on this that acknowledges it unless you’re actually more open to reality and not steered by agenda.

Don’t blame me because your powder was wet, T-Dog!

You gave an example an I batted it away with nary a sweat. Your problem, not mine!

So nothing then….

Tony, if you have something in particular you would like me to cast a fine blue eye over then show it to me.

Anyhoo, back to my original point which upset you so: it’s odd that there is no description of the attackers even though there are eyewitnesses and such, yes?
One would imagine thejournal and the Gardai would be encouraging people to help find these dangerous punters, yes?

If not then the whole thing sounds a bit suspect. Either lazy reporting or lazy Gardai, or a rare combination!

Still nothing.

Tony, I already asked you to show me specifically what you want me to read that causes you such butthurt, but you won’t or can’t. That’s your problem, bud.

If you’re unable to play then I’ll simply have to leave you to your hysteria!

Naberus the information you say hasn’t been provided has actually been given to the gardai along with some video evidence, according to the article

Naberus doesn’t want to bother. He knows well that if “immigrant”,” asylum seeker”,”refugee” or any nationality deemed Muslim is in the headline it’s an excuse to deny anything happened. And then look for specifics as if specifics convey a tone that is so obvious.

Thanks, Jimmyjoe, but I was referring to the fact that the descriptions and photos and stuff weren’t included in this article or any other article I’ve seen about this so far.

I would have thought it would be much easier to catch them if the general public know what they look like and what they’re driving.

Tony, I’m still waiting to see this stuff you want me to read. This is the third time I have asked you for it.
If you can’t provide it then simply say so.

Also, you’ll be able to show me where I denied that anything happened, yes? Copy and paste it into your next comment, thanks.
If you can’t do that then, as usual, I graciously accept your humble apologies in advance. :)

Naberius, my question wasn’t about quoting statistics. It’s about personal observation. To call for citation while you deny the need for it in Emmaq’s statistical assertions in itself points at an agenda. You’ve done a decent enough job at avoiding the question I’ve asked by trying to turn it into an academic citation dependent discussion but you have failed by trying to play a different game. So I’ll change the question (while expecting you to use that as a reason to not answer/discredit the question) to… In your opinion is there parity in comments sections on this site between allegations which do or do not specifically state the religion or country of origin? In my opinion: certainly not. And in my opinion any other answer is a lie.

Your personal observations mean nothing. Either show the specific stuff you are talking about or shush. Again, if you are unable to do so then simply admit as much, it’s fine.

You must be locked or something, man, who the hell is Emmaq? There’s only me, you and JimmyJoe in this thread.

I haven’t avoided anything. You, on the other hand, have ignored everything that has been said to you from start to finish and gone off on the odd lunatic tangent.

You also haven’t shown me where I denied that something happened to these Afghan chaps. You’ll do that for me in your next comment, yes?

As for the new version of your question, it’s gibberish. Try again if you like. :)

Just as expected….

Yes, exactly as expected you ignored everything that was said to you again.

Show me the articles and comments you want me to answer your question about. I can’t give an opinion about them if I don’t know what they say, yes?
Who is Emmaq? Show me anything I have ever said to him.
Show me where I denied that these guys were assaulted.
Your question is gibberish, read it to yourself.

Sorry, buddy, it looks like you’re having some kind of malfunction tonight. Heh.

Yep, you’re doing that thing aren’t you. ” I DONT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE UNDERSTANDING OF THE QUESTION ” thing….. You could have just asked me to clarify but you didn’t. Instead you decided to try to belittle and personally attack, which in itself is telling.

I did ask you to clarify half an hour ago. I said “As for the new version of your question, it’s gibberish. Try again if you like. :)”
I haven’t tried to belittle you or personally attacked you. You, on the other hand … heh.

I see you’re still ignoring all the stuff I asked you.

@Matt. heard the radio interview – definitely Irish. What was really heartbreaking – and surprised the Journal did not pick up on it – was that the 13 year old boy said he was too scared to go to school, but, as he said, that’s ok because he doesn’t need an education if it means he’ll be killed. The lowlifes who did this also said it was only a warning. This is Ireland and we have a 13 year old afraid of being murdered on his way to/from school because of his religion. Sounds a bit like Pakistan. He could be another Malala.
4 grown men jumping out of a car to beat up a 13 year old and then driving off. That’s bravery – I think not.

Malala was shot in the face on her school bus in an attempted murder and is now an unrivalled role model for oppressed girls the world over….

Matt try reading the article before trying to deny that prejudice exists. They were told to go back to their own country.

What cowards. Can’t imagine how sad your life has to be to plan something like this. I hope this young lad recovers.

Tony, I read the article, they said that’s what they were told. All I said was people shouldn’t jump to conclusions & that the gardaí should be allowed do their job. I also said that it’s possible the assailants could also be afghans (don’t tell me it hasn’t happened before). Never did I deny that prejudice exists. I see & experience it it on an almost daily basis.

They were not afgans

Where were they from? And how did the journal get that so wrong?

People rarely give the benefit of the doubt to alleged attackers when a foreign nationality or religion isn’t mentioned. This point has been made several times on this story with no retort that deserves acknowledgement

@Anne Marie Devlin,
The last time he seen 13 was on the back of a bus.

He’s actually 15 but was presumed to be 13 probably because he is in first year. His poor English when he arrived in Ireland meant he had to drop down a few years from what he’s meant to be.

No way 13 years old, 19 at least! What’s the real story here ? I’ve seen 6ft. bearded 15 year old immigrants and built like siht house walls in the past 5 years. There is a reason for everything and everything is not what it seems !
No, i am not racist and have decent friends not born here who work and are a credit to their Families!

Colm, I’d be the first to come to anyone’s aid if I saw them attacked. If something is obviously a lie then what else is going on ? Thats all i am asking ! I hope the attackers are found and severely dealt with, no excuse for attacking anyone !

@Colm Flaherty,
Cop yourself on and give the SJW virtue signalling a break.

‘Reversal of racism’ – get a grip!

These are the same people who say “boo hoo, everyone’s a victim these days” while blaming immigration for a multitude of ills.

Don’t even get me started on that one @ Tony this might tickle your fancy http://www.tworoundcorners.com/ireland-how-to-fix-crime-and-drug-abuse/ – even includes a few wonderful examples of how people think from here.

You are a danger to society.

Any chance of supporting these stats with a reputable source?

Straight out of DOJ @Tony -

Padraig is presented with stats that don’t support his argument, responds with personal abuse, then claims the person he has insulted needs further education. I love stupid people, they make me feel so much better about myself, thanks Padraig!

@ Liam
Um, incorrect numpty the stats do support the argument. I have no time for xenophobic people and will happily resort to a nice ad hominem prose when ignorance is the only report shown. Please feel free to move along as you have more fingers pointing back than anywhere else.

So ad hominem, a form of fallacy, is an acceptable form of argument whenever you deem it so, but others are lacking in education? Please keep posting, I do so enjoy watching lefties humiliate themselves publicly.

@emmaq. >>whinges about name calling >>tries to dismiss addressing any opinion with name calling… Banner, in the mean time thinks that an alleged bigoted attack is a good time to use dehumanising language about refugees and doesn’t even attempt the usual term for those who want to dismiss the refugee crisis by using “immigrants”. And my name isn’t in Irish.

Carry on @ Liam – he who labels only shows his own shortcomings -

“he who labels only shows his shortcomings”, says Padraig after labelling Emma a bigot and a xenophobic, labelling me a numpty, and admitting to engaging in ad hominem. Hilarious stuff; but is it intentional hypocrisy or can you just not help yourself?

@Emma

And you are a moron!

People like you paving the way for this racist skum!

YOU are a danger to society!

Incorrect @ Liam – Emma displayed a xenophobic and bigotry manner openly – you just labelled my a lefty while having no understanding of my ‘political’ lean. – Hence, you presumed I would be a left wing supporter. which is very incorrect.

I think I understand now, similar to ad hominem, you will be the arbiter of when labelling others is acceptable. Still certain it’s others who are lacking in educational attainment?

It seems the SJWs didn’t like the statistics that didn’t work in there favour, so they where deleted.

What’s with the Journal removing comments.

Emma’s comments have been removed.

Where is your source Emma? And your analysis of the stats? Do you think black people are all criminals too given the disparity in prison population in the US?

Yes Tony, whatever….

Ahh, you have found the “whatever” Tony – the last vestibule of I have no actual methodology to back up my point. Mere fact, understanding and societal examples outside their myopic context does, little to help light their narrow view. You may be familiar with the expression to win an argument against an intelligent person is difficult, although, winning one against stupidity is impossible.

I despair, when it comes to your type… I really do.

You see Emma – having an in-depth understanding of how we work as a society, people, and how social capital feeds into manifestations within or society, gives me the right to say you are wrong. You to can gain this insight. Trinity has outstanding Sociology and social science degrees if you plug into one of them, I am confident you would entirely change how you think. I refer again to an earlier comment, education does not beget wisdom but it does beget ignorance. Enjoy what is left of this lovely Sunday.

Sorry for the typos -

Padraig, the same can be said about you as well as some of the other lefties, who resort name calling, when people call your bluff or don’t have the same mind set as ye. Before you go on a rant, I’m very much a lefty.

Wow. Please Padraig, stay in college, there is just no place for you in the real world.

No bluff called @ Chris – None at all, and I would state you would find very difficult to find a master of any of the soft sciences that would agree with Emma.

(it) – really need an edit button today

Ha ha ha, “soft sciences” so that’s what they call pseudo college courses these days?
That is actually very funny.

This is hilarious, Padraig repeatedly has his own hypocrisy and failure to engage in anything even bordering on civilised discourse pointed out to him, yet he still feels he can talk down to people. Arrogance, the only thing ever learned in Trinners!

Oh my dear Emma –

If you call Sociology, Psychology, Anthropology, Philosophy, Political Science, et al – “pseudo college” then you just wholeheartedly and categorically proved my point….. *sigh

I know I shouldn’t be laughing at this serious topic however. I just can not believe you are for real.
Are you a master of all of those “Sciences” as well?
Jog on.

You just called “soft sciences ‘pseudo-science” Emma, they are soft sciences. Stunned, as the preverbal mullet.

I called it pseudo college, I am not going to drag this on any longer.
Don’t be bitter cause you only you got into “Orts” in Trinity Padraig.
But please go and get a real degree.

Did you learn your magnificent debating techniques in the lab Padraig? Oh of course not, you only deal in “sciences” that require no experimentation or falsification. Can’t believe a bleedin’ arts undergrad thinks he can talk down to people based on what his sociology lecturer told him!

You amuse me greatly Emma, in a depressing kind of way.

The man/woman who has no tincture of philosophy goes through life imprisoned in the prejudices derived from common sense, from the habitual beliefs of his age or his/her nation, and from convictions which have grown up in his/her mind / without the cooperation or consent of his/her deliberate reason. To such a man/woman the world tends to become definite, finite, obvious; common objects rouse no questions, and unfamiliar possibilities are contemptuously rejected. ~ Bertrand Russell

“Philosophy is dead” – Prof. Stephen Hawking.

Sociology – ” it means what i want it to mean”.

Padraig…careful now. ..Liam is the Oracle of all real knowledge

And his Co bigot emma

Aww did hurt your fweelings Marc, or is there another reason for you commenting on every post I make but ensuring not to say anything relevant?

Ah! Let them work away @ Marc – It is my fault for interacting with them

The vast majority of human beings dislike and even actually dread all notions with which they are not familiar… Hence, it comes about that at their first appearance innovators have generally been persecuted, and always derided as fools and madmen.

Liam ignore them, not all of us leftist are like the shower of dumbasses on this, who resort to name calling, calling people racist or the cowards word “Islamaphobe”, when they don’t get their way. That’s were the term regressive left came along.

Chris, the problem for the left is you’ve let these lunatics take over the asylum. The regressive, ideologically blinded lefty has become mainstream, and the left of the past, which concerned itself with labour rights and access to education for the underprivileged etc., is dismissed as communist. Part of me wonders if this was in fact simply infiltration to destroy the left (UK Labour Party of yesteryear was persistently infiltrated by nefarious groups), because the left that exists today is driving increasing numbers to right, and a right wing Europe can be dangerous!

Nab, not really interested in getting into pointing out a few specific cases. It’s clear to anyone willing to admit it that there is a difference in the comments where it’s specified about religion or country of origin versus “man/woman assaulted”. You can continue to ask for specifics if you like but I’m still not seeing you deny that observation as a reality.

Emma-still waiting for your reply.

Tony, you had all of the comments that you disagree with deleted.
You can continue to wait as you are not worthy. .

Are you seriously trying to pull the victim card now?
Personalisation? Have you even seen what has been written here?
Are you having a laugh?

Google prison numbers in the U.K France and Belgium to your hearts content, I’m done.

“I’m done” and “I despair” has been said a few times by you now. But you still side step direct questions while maintaining an “all Muslims suck” type stance and no replies to direct questions which are an attempt to engage in debate. If you view me and others like me as SJWs that’s up to you bit you are not engaging so its hard to see what your point is when it’s “I’m done” when asked for a reply on anything. It’s quite sad as the comments section here early on in thejournal’s life it was practically academic. It seems now that it’s more about thumbs and getting the last word (cue “yeah but I’m right” with zero effort in making any kind of coherent point)

@Pádraig Ó Raghaill,
Tell that to all the women who were raped in Cologne on New Year’s Eve.

On Friday, the Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer in fact told me that, of the 59 suspects pinpointed so far, just four are from war-torn countries (Syria and Iraq), only 14 are in custody, and nobody has yet been charged. Nearly 600 hours of CCTV reveals very little, and there is no evidence whatsoever that the alleged attacks were planned in advance.

The refugee-as-rapist construct is the kind that has been used to demonise people throughout history. The idea is that you apply frightening characteristics to those you view as political enemies. In the 1930s Cologne’s Jews were described as ‘Untermenschen’ (inferior people) menacing European culture, before 11,000 were murdered during the Nazi Holocaust by “racially pure” Aryans, many of them beer-swilling Christians.

Dark myths about sexual assaults in Cologne came into sharp focus last week when a female television journalist was attacked live on air. Esmeralda Labye, a reporter from Belgium, was covering the German city’s annual carnival when three men variously touched her breasts, kissed her and simulated intercourse behind her back.

It followed claims of multiple sex crimes on women around the city’s station on New Year’s Eve, when refugees were blamed. This allowed conspiracy theorists to outline their most starkly racist fantasies, painting a picture of demonic brown-skinned Muslims fleeing war zones to defile white European womanhood. No need for court cases: marauding savages had planned everything on the Internet and were all guilty without trial. 




This time, however, Labye’s cameraman captured the absolute truth: footage shows white European males from overwhelmingly Christian Germany molesting her. Cologne was full of Caucasian drunks acting with the same kind of macho abandon which contributes to some half a million adults being sexually assaulted in England and Wales alone each year.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/journalist-sexually-assaulted-by-two-men-live-on-television-in-germany-a6856081.html

@Pádraig Ó Raghaill,
So every one of those hundreds of women were lying?

Stop being a dope Eamon, the myth of Muslim men assaulting women has been refuted by the judiciary and police in Germany, the lies were spread by Pegida and other Neo-nazi’s http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/cologne-sex-assaults-muslim-rape-myths-fit-a-neo-nazi-agenda-a6872566.html

‘….claims of multiple sex crimes on women around the city’s station on New Year’s Eve, when refugees were blamed. This allowed conspiracy theorists to outline their most starkly racist fantasies, painting a picture of demonic brown-skinned Muslims fleeing war zones to defile white European womanhood. No need for court cases: marauding savages had planned everything on the Internet and were all guilty without trial. 




This time, however, Labye’s cameraman captured the absolute truth: footage shows white European males from overwhelmingly Christian Germany molesting her. Cologne was full of Caucasian drunks acting with the same kind of macho abandon which contributes to some half a million adults being sexually assaulted in England and Wales alone each year. ‘

There was not ‘hundreds’ there were 5 – FIVE – alleged rapes, in the mists of alcohol, darkness, and conjecture.

My name isn’t in Irish but it’s interesting that you would specifically say refugees and not migrants. There’s no doubting that there are many spoofers but refugees get REFUGE for a reason.

Emmaq – it’s not as big a deal for you to answer the question asked but you continue to claim others are “beneath” you and how you’re “done”. Do you not prefer to debate and discuss rather than just disengage? (There are many childish things I feel I could have said here that i have avoided-just try to answer instead of the eye rolling ” I’m done for the 67th time”/answer…..)

It is the same profile of people that us the #LondonHasFallen hashtag – Tony, hence I doubt there is a narrative they accept apart from their biassed viewpoint – One wide brush tarnishing all of the same ilk

@Pádraig Ó Raghaill,
It’s happening in Sweden too. This is the BBC Newsnight;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-_OTec6euA&ab_channel=BBCNewsnight

“One wide brush tarnishing all of the same ilk.” Padraig, you appreciate irony in way Alanis Morissette could only ever dream.

Isn’t calling someone else an sjw name calling too?

Tony…leave out religion,ethnicity,race and remember that the spoofers had it all their own way for years…almost every application for asylum from about 97 on was successful…that period was a shambles..a free for all and highly publicised and any Dublin city Garda from that period will tell you that Dublin homeless kids were told to sleep on the streets/stairwells/archways because the B@B accomodation was reserved for asylum seeking unaccompanied minors and Nigerian families…its not realistic to expect any community to gloss over that experience and continue to extend the hand of welcome yet not be even a little sceptical….

Liam – Unfortunately, Alanis did not understand ‘irony’ quite ironic really – Furthermore, I am only tarnishing a few based on what they say and project about specific races and beliefs. Whereas, you are tarnishing entire peoples with that same wide brush.

Peter Felcher – Is that why do many are racist in Ireland is it – You would think ‘the blacks of Europe’ “No Dogs, No Blacks, No Irish” would have more understanding about the need for tolerance. Furthermore, is “immigration” was the incubator of sending countries broke, America would not be so rich – or the UK and OZ for that matter.

Padraig, I find your dismissiveness of sexual assaults allegations alarming. Now allegations don’t equal guilt but still – I wouldn’t want you to investigate them! Anyway, I have a question for you. Do you think there is anything behind (any truth to) this idea that there are higher rates of rape/sexual assault by Muslim men than other groups or do you think anyone who suggests such a thing is simply a racist/bigot etc?

Padraig, who am I tarnishing exactly? I’m just laughing at you, because you keep saying laughable things. But now you’ll tarnish me along with apparently only a select few others as being a bigot. Is laughing at sociologists with notions of themselves a new “ism” I haven’t heard of yet?

Padraig…slow down…try to respond appropriately…even though you are interrupting an exchange between myself and another poster..take your time…tomorrow will do…start with my surname…

Oh – sorry about that typo Peter, it happens. I won’t be continuing this tomorrow, not only is life too short but there is also the old work

You have never heard of Sociology, Liam, how interesting – although makes sense -

I didn’t just read Padraig and Tariq, try to dismiss the truth about cologne, did I ?

I’m going to bed.

Padraig…at least you can be civil and well mannered….yes..i too must work and life is too short for unnecessary conflict….TTFN…

A couple of points to consider bingo
- Islam is a religion, not a “minority” – A Muslim could be of any race, ethnicity or nationality.

Would you like to rephrase your question – maybe – do you think there is a dispropriate level of rape from a specific region, demographic or sub-race set.

Oh I’ve heard of sociology, they had you people when I was in college too. Opinionated bunch, could flip a good burger in fairness to them though, although that talent was more of a postgraduate discovery.

Padraig, Absolutely – you’re correct – it is not a race! Lets keep it simple – do you think there is anything behind (any truth to) this idea that there are higher rates of rape/sexual assault by Muslim men than other groups?

Well, South Africa has the highest rape in the world Bingo – also – you are in many ways asking a question with a natural bias to it – hence, why I asked if you would like to rephrase -

Oh, you so funny Liam – truly you craic me up.

Padraig, It’s not a biased question – it’s a very straightforward question which has a very straightforward answer. If it’s possible to conclude that South Africa has the highest rate of rape in the world – it must be possible to ask the question ‘Which country has the highest rate of rape in the world’ without assuming bias is involved. In 2014, in the UK, 12 percent of convicted rapists were Muslim – they make up 5 percent of the population. “As at 31 March 2014, the latest point in time for which data is available for public use, the male prison population in England and Wales for all offenders serving immediate custodial sentence for rape was 5,682. Of this, there were 676 offenders who self-declared their religion as Muslim (12% of the total).

Please note that the figures given relate to offenders for whom these offences were the principal offences for which they were sentenced to immediate custody. When a defendant has been found guilty of two or more offences it is the offence for which the heaviest penalty is imposed. Where the same disposal is imposed for two or more offences, the offence selected is the offence for which the statutory maximum penalty is the most severe. ” The document can be found by typing ‘religion rape uk’ into google – it’s the first hit.

So what you are saying bingo is you have an 88% chance of being raped by someone other than a Muslim.

On that note – good night…

Extremely poor response from a sociology student….disappointing.

By alienating them, and pigeonholing them into thinking that the mass of the population sees them as criminals and rapists, what do you expect the outcome to be? They’re going to stay to themselves, stay in their own neighbourhoods and not even remotely assimilate to western culture. Bigotry and generalisations don’t bring any good, and only causes more negativity and violence.

Millions of Muslims have lived throughout the world and western world without it imploding. I asked you to rephrase many times, although, that just does not fit your desire of branding all Muslims with the same iron. That is exactly the kind of thinking that has to be stamped out. It is no different than anti-Semitism or “no Irish” historically many have just not learnt.

Racial hatred breeds hate and further problems, allowing xenophobic people a platform is not progressive and is no more than giving the Nazi organisation time to speak at the local school.

“allowing xenophobic people a platform is not progressive.” Are you saying people with views with which you disagree should not be permitted to speak publicly, or can you explain what you mean by this? If so,who is the arbiter of what is regarded as acceptable and unacceptable opinions to hold?

It is not a view Liam it is a language. Look at the video shared above about Sweden – (we will not see it as Muslim, race or religion, it is individual and we will treat it as such) Damn (Americans bombing the world) No, the U.S foreign policy not (Americans) There has historically been problems in Russia with supremacists killing and beating outsiders. The damn whites in Russia – although you do not hear that do you, it is brought down to the supremacists. Suddenly (all whites) are not the problem, obviously. When the Pegida group tried to rally in Dublin it was quickly shown the door, we do not want individuals or organisations that pigeonhole entire swaths of people and brand all with the same iron, period.

You ignored the question, do you think people who express opinions or use language with which you disagree should be denied a public platform?
Your response revealed a few other uncomfortable truths about you though. Do you agree with the manner in which the pegida rally you reference was shut down? And who is this “we” on whose behalf you feel you have the authority to speak, and who will dictate who should speak and what language should be spoken?
I don’t expect you to answer any of what I’ve asked, because frankly you can’t.

Should racist groups be given a platform – no – should open and label wearing bigots be given a platform – no – I speak for the people that are not xenophobic, bigoted or racist – Should there have been violence at the rally, likely not, but extremism is often met with same. Hence, violence breeds violence, ignorance breeds racism, the hate vortex.

Ok, you’ve revealed yourself as the jumped up little fascist you really are. Who are you to dictate who should and shouldn’t be afforded public platforms? Do you feel you have a right to deny others the access to hear speakers just because you disagree with what those speakers say?
And just to illustrate how utterly moronic your approach is, do you know what happened Nick Griffen and the BNP when they no platformed him? And more to the point what happened when they afforded him a platform?
You’re a totalitarian hypocrite; just because your bleedin’ sociology lecturer agrees with you doesn’t make you right. And just because something is on the CAO doesn’t mean it’s worth studying!

You poor but hurt little man – I am so glad you are not in control of young minds -

Is that your sole response to questions you can’t answer? You’ve repeatedly tried to label me a bigot just for laughing at you, and as soon as anything is raised you struggle with you just jump to personal abuse. You are a simpleton who is uncomfortable outside his safe zone.

Maybe if you had studied something, anything, possibly if you had ventured through any of the arts programmes, you would hold the ability to read; thus, you would see your questions have been answered multiple times. Furthermore, you would be able to decipher your own empty rhetoric and personal abuse.

Don’t try and talk down to me, I have studied, a lot more than you I’d hazard a guess, and have degrees in varying disciplines. I confess I did not go through the arts programme, but that might be because I didn’t make a balls of my leaving so could enter real faculties.
You said people with views you find abhorrent should be denied public platforms. I referenced Nick Griffen, who during years of no platforming enjoyed steady rises in the polls. He was afforded a public platform once, and the BNP ceased to exist within 24 months of his public appearance. This illustrates how counterproductive your approach is, yet you refuse to recognise this as you regard it as ideologically unsound. Discuss.

You may have studied Liam, though I see you have not studied anything that gains light into how we are as people, by your own omission. Hate speech, which this thread has embodied has laws throughout countries to counteract such regressed thinking. Some of the concerns raised are genuine concerns though how these are addressed, spoken, creates the dividing line of acceptable examination or racist based speech.

Sociologists study human’s social lives, activities, interactions, processes, and organisations within the context of larger social, political, and economic forces. They examine how social influences affect different individuals and groups, and the ways organisations and institutions affect people’s lives. Understanding the why and how to address the cause is the lifeblood of psychology and sociology. From what I see within this thread is the concentration on a manifestation, this is then projected squarely at a large demographic. That is no more than cultural and racial intolerance; it does nothing in pursuit of the cause, or indeed how that may be unique or specific to narrow line within a larger culture. Instead, racial profiling is writ large.

You try and belittle academic disciplines known as some of the hardest to understand academically, and this alone shows a great shallowness in your thought processes, and then you try and elevate your supposed education.

A thread that began from a racially based violence was hijacked by no more than racial and cultural prejudice people. Twisting the context into what it was not to then meet their narrowness of belief based constructs. When they are met with disdain, based on their hollow conjecture, they then try and take a learned and moral high ground while not holding an ounce of moral, academic or social fibre.

Point to one bigoted or racist thing I’ve said, if you want to keep labelling me in lieu of addressing points I’ve raised.
Answer the question about Nick Griffen; it a perfect illustration of why what you say is not just wrong, it is counterproductive.
And who decided philosophy and sociology are the most difficult academic disciplines to understand, you egotistical sham? I laughed at the notion that sociology is science, because it is not subject to falsifiable hypotheses, and laughed at the existence of philosophy courses, because as Prof. Hawking said, philosophy is dead.
For somebody who accuses others of twisting the context, you have repeatedly accused me of racism when all I have done is ridicule you, and keep trying to shift arguments whenever you cannot address a point. If this is the produce of arts programmes, I will maintain my disdain for arts students.

You came out and defended racist comment, that was then deleted by The Journal – Enough said . So because one professor that also thinks aliens will be out to kill us, has an opinion about philosophy, you wish to hang you hook to it; all the power to you. No points have gone unaddressed, you simply either do not like the answer or cannot understand the answer. I find it amusing that these ‘arts’ disciplines you so despise gave birth to modern mathematics and science; without the arts we have no understanding of our universe, lives, history, people, et al.

Please take your straw and go home.
Come and bother me at another time on another thread as this one my man, is burnt out. Fell free to rabbit on more if you so wish, although, you will now be met with crickets.

That’s fine, you’d lost the argument before I even joined thanks to your use of ad hominem anyway. And you persistently failed to address the point about Nick Griffen, now accuse me of defending racist comments when in fact I was just ridiculing you for engaging in ad hominem, yet still contend labelling people is wrong. You have a future as a burger flipper or a doler my friend, your chosen discipline has no economic value whatsoever. Let it make you feel superior if you like, but take my word for it, arts students are the butt of every joke on campus, and philosophy and sociology students the recipients of little more than pity!

Padraig, Do you think I’m xenophobic? Stating that 12% of convicted rapists were Muslim in 2014 in England and Wales and that this is disproportionate to their numbers is not pigeonholing or generalization – it’s fact. Nowhere did I use the word all. You’re the one labeling. But seriously, what use is sociology if it won’t address facts? “Understanding the why and how to address the cause is the lifeblood of psychology and sociology”?

I had to come back and check up on this train crash…
Padraig, you didn’t disappoint.
I am sure you might believe you are a unique individual, unfortunately you are just a stereotype, It is so easy to predict your view on any given topic long before you open your mouth.
Have you seen all of the red thumbs that you always get?
Yet for some reason you believe you should say who can and cannot have an opinion? Arrogance on a level that is difficult to comprehend

What would impress me is if you went and protested outside the Clonskeagh Mosque for their support for the Muslim brotherhood, or better yet, get a job as a sociologist in the Middle East.
Otherwise, get used to flipping burgers!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3581199/New-footage-Cologne-New-Year-sex-attacks-shows-woman-screaming-mustn-t-touch-mustn-t-touch-overwhelmed-police-struggling-control-crowds-migrant-men.html

Wow, and to think that the lefty politicians did everything they could to try to brush that under the carpet as it didn’t fit in with the narrative of multi culturism.

We can not even visit as tourists.. So its not a mute point.

Believe me emma you don’t want to visit there as a tourist. These people who were attacked are recent arrivals to our shores as immigrants

So you accept that Afghanistan is not somewhere you would want to visit yet can’t acknowledge a likely justifiable reason for someone from Afghanistan seeking asylum?

Oh right… Want to extend that list to any other Muslim countries?

Tony,
I don’t fancy living in the Arctic, does that qualify the inuit as refugees too ?

*moot*

Lol sorry lily. ..thanks got the heads up tho

@Marc Anthony,
*moot

Larry pretending he hasn’t a clue…