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Comment #5221420 by Kerry Blake

Kerry Blake Jun 28th 2016, 9:06 PM #

Don’t often agree fully with Vincent but on this I do agree. My heart sank when I heard today that Enda was going to fight the fight for the Irish,,,,,,

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Vincent Browne: The EU, its elites and its hyper fans had this coming

Vincent Browne: The EU, its elites and its hyper fans had this coming

Writing for TheJournal.ie, Vincent Browne says the European project was always about making the rich richer.

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    Favourite Paul Mc
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:16 PM

    Enda will continue to line the pockets of his cronies nobody else as for Noonan all he cares about are the price of the Dow Jones and his own investments.

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    Favourite Gavin Scott
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:19 PM

    Mr populist, barely coherent. The usual.

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    Favourite bingo
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:26 PM

    How about we “insist upon” an in-out referendum! I’m frankly so sick of it all.

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    Favourite Gerry Ryan deG
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:41 PM

    Enda has changed tack in recent days so because his first pronouncement was his intention to fight for Britain and Noonan said something very similar and it fits them well because we all know they didn’t do much for us in the past when it comes to matters of Europe and its Empire.

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    Favourite Gavin Scott
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:42 PM

    But we live in the EU. We cannot go back. We cannot relocate. We cannot stop trading with our natural trading partners. We need a slight reform, not chaos. Most people around here want to be living in squatter camps with food handouts and sirens. Is it really that bad?

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    Favourite ray.farrelly
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:46 PM

    Gavin are you on something?

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    Favourite bingo
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:48 PM

    Gavin….we live in Europe not the EU…”the EU” is an institution which we should try to leave as quickly as possible. As for trade…trade is great but a political union…army etc…is not needed or wanted.

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    Favourite Neil Mcdonough
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:54 PM

    I know Gavin, there are people who think you can take the EU apart, a pillar of the global economy as things stand, and the world as we know it will continue on its merry way …

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    Favourite (((Jason)))
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:55 PM

    What army? There is no EU Army.

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    Favourite Paddy Ryan
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    Jun 28th 2016, 9:58 PM

    Even funnier.. they think that our own beloved politicians will be able to sort out trade deals within the WTO… if you think the EU are “horrible meanies ” you ain’t seen nothing yet…

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    Favourite Jeff Kennedy
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    Jun 28th 2016, 10:10 PM

    If the border does come back ,I will bet it’s manned by Irish soldiers of the EU Border force, not UK forces .

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    Favourite Jeff Kennedy
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    Jun 28th 2016, 10:13 PM

    If it looks and acts like an army , it’s probably an army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontex

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    Favourite Zaphods Other Head
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    Jun 28th 2016, 10:27 PM

    The EU is a failed social engineering experiment. We can have all of the trade and movement without the federalism. Can’t we?

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    Favourite William T Smith
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    Jun 28th 2016, 10:31 PM

    No Gavin, we need complete reform or we need out, the E.U. has become an undemocratic corporate fascist institution that serves only the good of those at the top of the pile.

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    Favourite Pat Stapleton
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    Jun 28th 2016, 10:31 PM

    5 Point plan.Default,Depart,Devalue,Deport and Detain.This the Short term Pain ,Long term Gain.There is so much in this Plan and more.Asset Taken Back etc.

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    Favourite John Pett
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    Jun 28th 2016, 10:52 PM

    I agree we need slight reform but it does seem difficult to achieve without some chaos

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    Favourite James Darcy
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    Jun 28th 2016, 10:56 PM

    Leave the EU? I’m sick of hearing this can you all not see from the Brits that it’s only the uneducated, the rich, and xenophobes who want out. We can reform over time but the EU has done more good than any single government is a much faster timeframe.

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    Favourite Jeff Kennedy
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    Jun 28th 2016, 10:56 PM

    The vast majority of European people want a democratic EU .The powers that be are holding on to there club so hard they are strangling it.

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    Jun 28th 2016, 11:08 PM

    Yes James, 17 million people who are either uneducated, rich or xenophobes…cop on!

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    Jun 28th 2016, 11:09 PM

    Agree Kerry, I am European but there are a number of things that make me feel very uncomfortable. 1. Why do we knot know honestly how much money we pay to European bond holders and in particular name them and what country/countries they are from and what banks? 2. Why do we not know how much money is spent “honestly” by Ireland on the wasters working in Brussels. 3. Why do we not know why Irish politicians keep covering up so much what goes on in Europe, 4. What do our euro reps do? And why are they not accountable for their actions? 5. Why did we allow (like so many other countries) Germany & France to benefit so much while screwing smaller countries? I have lots more but I won’t bore people. There is no transparency in Europe. I want to be part of the EU but not like this. It’s becoming a dictatorship. We can’t afford to leave at this moment, but if Europe continues on this dictatorial path, they may be a lot more countries leaving than staying.

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    Jun 28th 2016, 11:16 PM

    Aubrey, I agreed with most of what you said…but maybe we can’t afford not to leave.

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    Jun 28th 2016, 11:16 PM

    ‘Most of the MEP’s in the European Parliament haven’t done a decent days work in their lives’ …so says Nigel Farage and I would agree with him there, what the hell do we we pay these muppets for.
    As for Ireland leaving the EU, dream on lads because we haven’t got any decent politicians smart enough to run a brothel never mind a country.

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    Jun 28th 2016, 11:27 PM

    Bingo I agree. Unlike the UK they will survive in the long term. We unfortunately could not. And as for our politicians! Someone has to keep an eye on them.

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    Favourite Pat Stapleton
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    Jun 28th 2016, 11:28 PM

    The EU Army is just to Attack Russia,cause Mayhem,then US stroll in and mop up.Ireland must Re-affirm our “Neutrality”.

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    Jun 28th 2016, 11:40 PM

    Pat the Lisbon Treaty gave EU treaties primacy over the Irish constitution .That means no more referendums and no affirming anything .The UK voted against the majority in the Council about 75 times and won none.Ireland will just be told to go to the naughty stair , while the grownups decide what’s good for them.

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    Favourite Maureen Stanford
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    Jun 29th 2016, 12:07 AM

    Not yet

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    Favourite Rob Mills
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    Jun 29th 2016, 12:30 AM

    As far as a Fg politician on VB tonight is concerned, if the Eu demands we change our corp tax rate Ireland will irexit as quick as a flash.
    So yes it’s about money alright. Seems this threat is greater than all other put together. Question is would it be for the good of the nation or cronism.

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    Jun 29th 2016, 1:05 AM

    No Aubrey, we could survive and do well. It’s about having guts and vision. I really think the idea that we need the EU to look after us is absurd.

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    Favourite darragh murphy
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    Jun 29th 2016, 2:07 AM

    Which smaller countries are getting screwed exactly? Is it the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Austria, or impoverished Luxembourg? Do some research before making sweeping statements. They have the highest standard of living in the world not to mention all those social metric lists they top. As for the EU budget and how much we spend on Brussels, look it up along with everything else you don’t seem to know.

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    Favourite Ron Spaghettini
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    Jun 29th 2016, 5:46 AM

    So loading us up with the debts of rogue German and French Bankers has done us good has it?

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    Favourite Valthebear
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    Jun 29th 2016, 9:29 AM

    So most leave voters were to thick to know what they were doing? Way to go insulting over half the UK electorate. May as well go whole hog and abolish democracy altogether.

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    Favourite Kevin Slater
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    Jun 29th 2016, 10:02 AM

    Yes the EU did a lot of good when it was about trade. Now its about giant corporations and germany running the show. Theyre probably glad UK left.
    We want no further integration. No Euro army. Return of power to individual parliaments. Or we walk. What can they do? Dont let Germany succeed in their third attempt to take over Europe. Why do they need another army??

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    Favourite Seamus McSpud
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    Jun 29th 2016, 11:27 PM

    That’s a new one

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    Favourite Glenn Carroll
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    Jul 1st 2016, 5:27 PM

    Totally agree with the called for a referendum here. Sick to my teeth of being dictated to by unelected neo-liberal bureaucrats… https://www.facebook.com/eirexitnow/
    #EirexitNow

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    Jul 31st 2016, 8:23 AM

    Well said, Kevin Slater

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