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Comment #4858440 by Louis Jacob

Louis Jacob Mar 7th 2016, 4:07 PM #

I’m actually with Oran on this one. It was the industrial revolution that fixed the ideas on women that we have. The Church only provided a mechanism, as it did everywhere, Catholic or not.

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Here's why you'll see these women on buses all over Ireland

Here's why you'll see these women on buses all over Ireland

They were snipers, cooks and doctors during the 1916 Rising.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:33 PM

    It took Ireland centuries to convert, and even so they were not Catholic.

    Catholicism came with the Normans in 1169. In fact, it was a large part of their casus belli that the Irish were part of the “Celtic Church”, and needed to be brought under the fold.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laudabiliter

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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:46 PM

    What also remains is the blaming of the Catholic Church for everything….. probably from British rule and people’s slavish deference to their media.

    Firstly, no Catholic Church, early Christian Church conversion.

    Secondly, same in rest of the world.

    Thirdly, people choose to treat women in a certain way. Men chose wrong here for decades.

    Fourthly, Ireland is one of the best countries to be a woman in, according to the Oecd.

    A lot of the women and men of the 1916-1921 period were ignored by our governments for years.

    The only people who turned up at 1916 commomerations were overweight special branchers with handicams filming “republicans” while junkies were injecting themselves and harrassing people.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:57 PM

    Way to go.
    First comment turns the forum into a Catholic bashing exercise.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:07 PM

    I’m actually with Oran on this one. It was the industrial revolution that fixed the ideas on women that we have. The Church only provided a mechanism, as it did everywhere, Catholic or not.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:40 PM

    Liam knew once he bashed the Catholic Church, even though he was wrong, he was bound to get green thumbs…

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    Mar 8th 2016, 12:58 AM

    @liam. What you say is true. De Valera even had our fighting women air-brushed from photographs. Hardly surprising – Sure didn’t he allow McQuaid to dictate our constitution & enslaved us into the Catholic Church to replace Britain.

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    Mar 8th 2016, 12:30 PM

    Oran, I think it’s fair to say that the Catholic church did nothing to rectify the inequality for many centuries, and continues in that fine tradition today. So you can call it bashing if you like, but at best they’re collaborators with a bad culture, but we all know they helped to keep women in their supposed place.

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    Mar 8th 2016, 3:05 PM

    @declan madsen – The Catholic Church kept everyone in their place. All children were intimidated by Catholicism from an early age & most up to 20yrs ago, in their adulthood as well.

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