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Comment #2126384 by Maurice Riordan

Maurice Riordan Feb 15th 2014, 3:07 PM #

The hypocrisy of the Unionist cause in Northern Ireland is simply staggering. They complain about a rebel song, but don’t seem to have a problem with their own lot marching through Catholic areas, calling people Fenians (in my opinion, a compliment) and singing songs glorifying Billy Wright and mocking the hungerstrikers. They seem to think it’s fine to riot when the flying of their fleeeeg is limited to the same days as everywhere else in their beloved UK. But a song? Oh no, we can’t have that.

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Unionists angry as rebel song cracks UK Top 40

Unionists angry as rebel song cracks UK Top 40

The song was recorded to protest a Scottish government decision to make singing it at football matches illegal.

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    Favourite gerry campbell
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    Feb 15th 2014, 3:28 PM

    As long as they are just singing at each other , what harm, let them off..

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    Favourite SMcB
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    Feb 15th 2014, 3:29 PM

    Or Taigs… Bunch of hypocrites.

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    Favourite limerickbhoy
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    Feb 15th 2014, 4:35 PM

    Zombie gtf

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    Favourite John Michael
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    Feb 15th 2014, 6:14 PM

    What about the ‘Soldier’s wives’ hitting number one at Christmas. Did they care about the Muslims that offended.

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    Favourite Declan Conway
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    Feb 15th 2014, 7:19 PM

    John, the British army are not at war against Muslims.
    If so, they’d be fighting in most countries in the world.

    They’re part of a US-led coalition in Afghanistan and Iraq, remember.

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    Favourite Milginte Mikalauskaite
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    Feb 15th 2014, 7:41 PM

    Declan, go tell that to the 100′s of thousands civilians murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan by the US and British.

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    Favourite pat James buchannan
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    Feb 15th 2014, 8:03 PM

    Ole ole ole…….

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    Favourite pat James buchannan
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    Feb 15th 2014, 8:06 PM

    Shame of the declan name ……… Did you not see them and they were charged and found guilty

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    Favourite pat James buchannan
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    Feb 15th 2014, 8:07 PM

    Ulster says yes …….. The irish brigade…….

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    Favourite pat James buchannan
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    Feb 15th 2014, 8:14 PM

    Don’t worry …….. The irish republic of Scotland just needs to pay the bills in punts and have you heard their new anthem……\the green green grass of home …… Ha. The welch will revolt

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    Favourite colin power
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    Feb 15th 2014, 9:16 PM

    Well said.. You hit the nail on the head there!

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    Favourite Hibernicus Exul
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    Feb 15th 2014, 9:38 PM

    @ pat is that the welch family from over the road ?? they’ve always been trouble

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    Favourite Richarddoherty
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    Feb 16th 2014, 12:06 AM

    Ye exactly ban their parades and provoking of Catholics by marching near their areas other wise loyalists think on

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    Favourite Richarddoherty
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    Feb 16th 2014, 12:08 AM

    Never feel sorry for small minded unionists they know exactly what their doing

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    Favourite pat James buchannan
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    Feb 16th 2014, 12:42 AM

    Tom jones on the back of the 99 punt note

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    Favourite Declan Conway
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    Feb 16th 2014, 1:03 AM

    Talk about missing the point.
    There really are some illiterate idiots on here.

    The song was to raise money for the families of dead soldiers, not to rub Muslims’ noses in it.

    Oh, and there are more Irish men and women in the British military than the Irish military.
    They’re usually leaving a family behind and send back what money they can.
    What about them? Traitors or people just trying to earn a living?

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    Favourite Tomas Mac Maghnuis
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    Feb 16th 2014, 9:13 AM

    I would say Traitors especially after what the British army done in the Streets of Ballymurphy ….. Derry but to name a few the list is endless there campaign if murdering children with plastic bullets and Irish Man or Woman who joins the British Army are Traitors

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    Favourite John
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    Feb 16th 2014, 9:34 AM

    If it wasn’t for these people you call “traitors” we’d be having this conversation in German.

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    Favourite Maurice Riordan
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    Feb 16th 2014, 10:50 AM

    John, we’re not talking about the Russians. We’re talking about the English, the ones who ran from Dunkirk with their tails between their legs and only grew a pair when the Americans and the Russians threw their hats into the ring. They were tough as nails when they were driving through West Cork machinegunning farmers and dragging rebels behind their trucks but not so much when coming up against an equal force.

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    Favourite gerry campbell
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    Feb 16th 2014, 10:52 AM

    Tomas, what happened to moving on, or as usual is that only for everyone else, while the likes of you still wallow in past. By your logic , Sinn Fein can’t move forward either, because they too must carry the burden off all the atrosaties carried out by their military wing. Is any young fella who joins Sinn Fein now, to be branded a terrorist, if not, young men who join the British army, instead of sitting on their holes here drawing the dole , are to be commended, rather than branded as traitors by the likes of you ..

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    Favourite John
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    Feb 16th 2014, 11:34 AM

    They still won 2 world wars and many Irish people fought and died in both wars, they where not traitors the majority signed up as they had no other employment, so if these people are traitors are all the young people emigrating now traitors cause they are forced to seek employment in other countries.

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    Favourite Maurice Riordan
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    Feb 16th 2014, 11:58 AM

    Again, John, no they did not. World War I was at a standstill in the Western Front up until the Americans declared that they had made enough war profit out of supplying steel and weapons to Germany and declared war on them in 1917. Once the British had realised their goals of denying Germany access to the oil in the Middle East, thereby starving their Navy of fuel and negating the threat to Britains dominance of the sea, the interest in gaining further ground waned and it turned into a war of attrition with massive casualties on both sides. The Bolsheviks realised this and pulled out of the war as soon as humanly possible after the October Revolution. The British however, could afford to continue to fight for pride, because, as you say, they had plenty of cannon-fodder in the Irish, Scots, Welsh and colonial divisions, as well as the peasantry of their own country. Huge amounts of money was being made, so there was no reason for the Empire to stop the slaughter.

    World War II was won on the Eastern Front. Every historian worth their salt will tell you that Operation Barbarossa was the turning point of the war, in that it devoured the resources of the Reich and completely demoralised the Wehrmacht. Hitler overreached and decided to strike East, instead of consolidating his position on the Western Front by invading and occupying Britain. Faced with fighting an overwhelming force in the east, (contemporary German accounts describe human waves attacking German positions being machine-gunned only for another to appear in the same place) it was only a matter of time before the Reich was crushed. The brave Americans, once again after making a tidy profit, threw their weight in behind the British and that was it for Germany. The British knew they were in for it after Dunkirk and couldn’t believe their luck when Hitler didn’t immediately cross the channel.

    I’m not even going to address your last remark, just say that it is deeply offensive.

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    Favourite gerry campbell
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    Feb 16th 2014, 12:02 PM

    Maurice that it complete aul pub, talk , you talk about the British, the Russians, the yanks, as if there was some kind of difference between soldiers, the difference is between Armies, generals, decision makers . Are you trying to generalise and say one army’s soldier is braver than another , the British went with their tails between their legs, what sort of a loaded comment is that, they were just ordinary young men, sent into a badly thought out landing by arrogant incompetent generals , and like you would got out of there as quick as they could . To suggest one country’s soldier is braver than an others, just to make your anti British point, shows your lack of understanding , they all feel fear , but do their duty , is the army decimated by it’s enemy because of bad planning and bad decisions, any less worthy than the victors , is the dead soldier less brave than the one who killed him. No you just continue with your anti / Brit agenda, but leave the insinuations of cowardice out, until you have experienced the situation yourself..

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    Feb 16th 2014, 12:15 PM

    So Britain was not on the winning side in both world wars ? Great history lesson, straight from the school of Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf Aka comical Ali

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    Favourite Maurice Riordan
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    Feb 16th 2014, 1:32 PM

    John, now you’re just talking through your pooper. Gerry, I have experienced it, have you? Every point I made is a verifiable fact. The British Army ran out of France as fast as they could and didn’t dare launch an attack until the Americans joined them. I’m sure many brave men served under the Butchers Apron, but let’s not assign martyrdom to the entire British Army and revise history to paint them in a holy light. They do enough of that themselves without the help of the Irish.

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    Feb 16th 2014, 4:21 PM

    Is your real name Walter Mitty by any chance ?

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    Favourite John Mullen
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    Feb 16th 2014, 8:01 PM

    They even have a song on YouTube called Lenny Murphy chop chop chop. Now glorifying the leader of the Shankill butchers is surely far more offensive than commemorating 10 martyrs, men prepared to die for what they believe in.

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    Favourite Harry Whitehead
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    Jan 6th 2016, 11:30 PM

    Never in the field of online history fails was so much drivel posted by one person while maintaining a straight face.

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