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Comment #1616321 by Peter Ryan

Peter Ryan Sep 22nd 2013, 8:50 AM #

Its fake, cringeworthy and its Diageo making a fool of people.

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Why are people saying 'Down with Arthur's Day'?

Why are people saying 'Down with Arthur's Day'?

The event has gathered a lot of critics, as well as supporters – but why do people dislike it?

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    Favourite Bruce
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:02 AM

    Ah but sure we like having the craic…

    Diageo have just tapped into our love of drink.

    The best way to fight Diageo is to boycott their products for the day. They will soon pull the plug when the revenue dies.

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    Favourite Joanne Champ
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:10 AM

    I agree Peter. I find all the Facebook updates, ‘to Arthur!’ even more cringeworthy

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    Favourite David Keogh
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:46 AM

    To be fair, you have the choice to simply not “like” the facebook pages and not go out on Arthurs Day. Im not an advocate of the day, I wont be doing anything for it, but I dont see the problem with it if it makes some people happy! Evidently, it does, considering every pub is full on this random day of the year. However random it may be, its still a boost for the Irish economy, its still increasing tourism and its still lifting us, even marginally, towards a more stable economy!

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    Favourite Dmc
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:51 AM

    Guinness family helped supply the British military with trucks during 1916 rising.

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    Favourite Anton
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:55 AM

    How? Those paying for their tickets for “Arthur’s Day” won’t go out some other night instead. They’ll go to a pub where the taps of non-Diageo beers – including, say, those of actual *Irish* craft brewers – have been covered, at Diageo’s insistance. People buy Diageo beers, and the money leaves the country…

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    Favourite john cleary
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:58 AM

    @david Keogh
    Pure bullshit.

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    Favourite David Keogh
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:58 AM

    Anton, are you really suggesting that the hundreds of thousands of people that go out on this one random day of the year would have went out on another night anyway, without Arthurs Day? I highly doubt that many of them would. I also doubt that the bulk of tourists coming over for it would bother to come if it wasnt taking place. And no, the money doesnt simply leave the country. Every drink thats bought in Ireland is taxed.

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    Favourite David Keogh
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 9:59 AM

    In what context John? Your comment doesn’t exactly give us any insight!

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    Favourite Anton
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 10:34 AM

    Yes, David, I’m suggesting exactly that. Most people I know go out once night a week, or one night a fortnight, or whatever, depending on circumstances… for those going out for Arthur’s Day, that’ll be their night out and they’ll stay in the rest of that weekend. There’s a recession on, people don’t have the money to go out two or three times in a week.

    Do more than a handful of diehard music fans (who’ve got an inside track of who is playing where) actually visit Ireland for Arthur’s Day? (Don’t they do it in orher countries too?)

    Yes, every drink is taxed – but all Diageo profits, after tax, leave the country. It’s a British multinational listed on the UK and NYSE.

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    Sep 22nd 2013, 11:05 AM

    Guiness Family also bequeathed St. STEPHEN Green, Iveagh Gardens, Farmleigh house to the city of Dublin and were one of the first and only firms in Ireland to offer a pension and health care to its employees… I can forgive them a few trucks!

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    Sep 22nd 2013, 11:10 AM

    Whoever came up with the idea is an advertising genius.wether you agree with it or not its grown to be a massive global event.

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    Favourite David Keogh
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 11:42 AM

    Anton, that may be the case with the people you know. However, where I work, theres allot of foreign employees. None of them ever come out for drinks with us. Every one of them is heading out for Arthurs Day because in their opinion “its Irish”! They wouldn’t go out otherwise! Most people visiting Ireland don’t visit it for the music. The number of Americans coming over for it will be huge, again, because they want to be part of “being Irish”..It doesn’t matter why theyre coming over, the fact is that the only time more Americans come to Ireland is St. Patricks Day. They will come over and spend money on allot more than just alcohol! All the hotel rooms getting filled on an otherwise quite day will help allot of people to keep their jobs! Last year the Irish economy grew by 0.4% as a result of Arthurs Day. Thats from the CSO, not Diageo.

    Im not arguing where Diagio are from or that they take their profits out of Ireland, but they still hire around 1500 Irish staff directly, along with indirectly keeping so many thousands of Irish people in their jobs. Think of all the Irish farmers supplying the 80 million litres of milk for Baileys every year, or all the barley growers across the country who are able to put food on their table thanks to the amount of guinness getting consumed on Arthurs Day. All the otherwise empty pubs that will be hopping, even just for one day each year! Arthurs Day goes much further than simply the profits of a UK based company leaving the country!

    Again, I dont plan to go out and celebrate it, but I still think its a great idea in terms of increasing income in the country and boosting the moral of some people.

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    Favourite Anton
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 12:19 PM

    “Last year the Irish economy grew by 0.4% as a result of Arthurs Day.”…

    Best laugh I’ve had all morning – thanks David!

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    Sep 22nd 2013, 12:58 PM

    I for one will be looking forward to Arthur’s Day. But I guess there’s people out there who think big bad corporates shouldn’t be allowed make money. It’s your choice whether you take part of not. If you don’t want to take part that’s fine, but keep your cribbing for other things; this is a non issue IMO. Bit of music, few Guinness, bit of Craic; I don’t see what the issue is.
    As for drunks ending up in hospital, that’s a separate issue and TBH one would be some fool to end up in hospital over drink. That’s not Diageo’s fault.

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    Favourite Ciara Kennedy
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    Sep 22nd 2013, 4:21 PM

    yes its called ‘Marketing’, ye may have heard of it

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    Sep 22nd 2013, 5:48 PM

    Why shouldn’t people be able to go out and do things in their city any night they choose?

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