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Comment #1827781 by TheLoneHurler

TheLoneHurler Nov 20th 2013, 7:35 PM #

I find it upsetting that there is even a thought of banning slapping. A slap, yes. We are not talking about making punch-bags out of kids.

It’s the do-gooders like you that allow the most anti-social kids to become what they are.

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Column: ‘I find it upsetting that you can legally strike your children as a form of discipline’

Column: ‘I find it upsetting that you can legally strike your children as a form of discipline’

Ireland needs to follow the lead of other countries and make corporal punishment illegal, writes Tanya Ward.

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    Favourite Darren Martin
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    Nov 20th 2013, 7:38 PM

    I can honestly say that without the very few slaps I got as a kid, I would have been a little waster.

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    Favourite TheLoneHurler
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    Nov 20th 2013, 7:38 PM

    And to add… look at what happened in Sweden when slapping was banned around 30 years ago. Look at the youth riots over there. In fact, Sweden are considering reversing the role.

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    Favourite Jimmy
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    Nov 20th 2013, 7:41 PM

    Agreed my mom slapped me when I was a little b@stard I turned out fine. Son now and one ever did I have to smack but he is great kid never needs it now :)

    Buy some kids can be difficult. They shut out parents when throwing a wobbler and only way to focus them is slap. The do Gooders tend not to have kids.

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    Favourite Kevin Dobson
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    Nov 20th 2013, 7:42 PM

    I think anyone in favour of banning slapped should get a good slapping. Gratifying AND ironic. That’s good slapping.

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    Favourite Parmenides
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    Nov 20th 2013, 7:53 PM

    I think the real issue is its only acceptable to employ corporal punishment against small children. The sc*m in the joy could do with more than just a few slaps.

    Being back public flogging!

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    Favourite sluazcanal
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    Nov 20th 2013, 7:57 PM

    I remember playing with a cigerette lighter in the hayshed. My father gave me a nice few slaps, well deserved too.

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    Favourite Owen Brady
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:04 PM

    You can,t hit some of the brats hard enough

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    Favourite DigitalA
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:05 PM

    +1 Darren

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    Favourite Little Jim
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:06 PM

    Got caught playing with a girl in the hayshed, got a pat on the back.

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    Favourite margaret
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:13 PM

    My husband turned on the tap of the 1,000 litre tank of home heating oil. Emptied the whole lot into the grass. The only time he can remember getting a wallop1

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    Favourite Spud Jones
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:14 PM

    If parents dumping there kids in front tvs for hours on end and then thumping them around the place cause they don’t know how to communicate good behaviour, and the argument is, sure it didn’t do me no harm, well isn’t that grand. I tell you we are in a country of donkeys

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    Favourite Joan Featherstone
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:17 PM

    Hear hear! Total shite.

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    Favourite Joan Featherstone
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:19 PM

    That’s not in reply to Spud!

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    Favourite John Scott
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:22 PM

    Bet he did not do it a 2nd time , me thinks

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    Favourite Maureen O'Callaghan
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:22 PM

    Said the donkey..

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    Favourite Gavin Scott
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:23 PM

    Well said. What if your child turns into chucky or Damien? Then what? You have to protect yourself and others around you. When a kid is not so good at English or any language for that matter, the universal language becomes prodding and direction

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    Favourite benny dowling
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:29 PM

    Do gooders… were u as a child ever on the receiving end …..its dysfunctional and destructive to slap or hit a child..i am a parent myself and i have slapped my children….i hate myself for doing it…because i know how it feels….by slapping u are teaching a child that violence is a means justifiable to whatever end

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    Favourite Stephen O'Callaghan
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:31 PM

    @TheLoneHur.
    What are you talking about? It wasn’t native Swedes that were rioting. I haven’t heard them discussing changing either. Then again I have only been here for three years.

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    Favourite benny dowling
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:33 PM

    Its wrong ….parents are supposed to protect their kids.. every slap just pushes them farther away…it promotes fear and not respect….never a good thing

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    Favourite Stephen Murphy
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:36 PM

    Spare the rod, spoil the child and how do we deal with grown up brats?

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    Favourite Richard Curtis
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:37 PM

    See the thing is under what circumstances would you slap an adult. Perhaps they insulted you or belittled you or indeed physically assaulted you using their adult strength. Now take these reasons and compare them to what a child has done to make it permissible that you slap her/him. Perhaps they had a tantrum in the supermarket and embarrassed you or spilled a drink and caused you to be angry or frustrated. The question is are these reasons enough to physically assault the child causing them pain?

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    Favourite Stephen Murphy
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:41 PM

    A tap on the backside, is hardly murder and they won’t repeat the performance again!

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    Favourite Laurie Berry
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:44 PM

    Agreed! I think that the naughty step can be more traumatic than a quick slap!

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    Favourite Ken Curran
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:45 PM

    it should be in reply to spud – he’s spot on

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    Favourite Jane Travers
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    Nov 20th 2013, 8:52 PM

    You could try explaining to the child what they did wrong, Stephen. Any child will respond to reason and respect. If they need punishment, ban TV for an hour or deduct pocket money etc.

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    Favourite Nick Hill
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    Nov 20th 2013, 9:04 PM

    Forget kids, I’m for slapping adults. It’s the only way they’ll learn!

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    Favourite John Moran
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    Nov 20th 2013, 9:05 PM

    Who says your not ?.

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    Favourite nialls
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    Nov 20th 2013, 9:23 PM

    Well said Spud!

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    Favourite Peter Redmond
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    Nov 20th 2013, 9:53 PM

    Or you are teaching a child that there are boundaries in everyday day life that they shouldn’t cross and that they have to respect in a civilised society otherwise they have to face the consequence. Jails are full of people who have no respect for society or rules, maybe if they were disciplined when they were kids????

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    Favourite Andrew Ó Cionnaith
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    Nov 20th 2013, 10:01 PM

    Jails are full of people who come from socially disadvantaged, uneducated backgrounds. Oddly it’s people from those backgrounds that are more likely to have been slapped.. Or perhaps not so oddly.

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    Favourite Peter Redmond
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    Nov 20th 2013, 10:36 PM

    Back that statement up Andrew?

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    Favourite Ken Curran
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    Nov 20th 2013, 10:36 PM

    What?? The Swedes are closing prisons – they’re so well behaved, they’re literally running out of people to put in jail.
    But don’t take my word for it: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/11/sweden-closes-prisons-number-inmates-plummets

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    Favourite Chris Doherty
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    Nov 20th 2013, 10:51 PM

    You right Benny, no slapping, give them ASBOs instead. Its a fine line, do parents (1)slap a child for doing wrong or (2) for not doing what they say. (2) is Not always the the same thing as (1)

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    Favourite Peter Redmond
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    Nov 20th 2013, 11:13 PM

    There closing prisons because they are investing in rehabilitation and they are imposing more lenient sentences so obviously there will be less people in prison and therefore prisons will close. I wasn’t talking about prisons anyways, I was asking Andrew to back up his point about people in prison being slapped as kids. Read the article by the way

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    Favourite Francis Gorman
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    Nov 20th 2013, 11:22 PM

    Dead right I got slapped on a regular basis for been a little bolox and it done me the world so good. I think the fact this article exists prob has a lot to do with the fact kids are gone so rude ignorant and ungrateful. The notion of saying please or thank you seems to be gone out the window as I noticed at a birthday party for my little cousin one kid even demanded more sweets in his party bag.

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    Favourite Ben Buggle
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    Nov 20th 2013, 11:26 PM

    It’s a bit naive to think children will respond reasonably to you all the time, be the adult, a little slap to remind them whose in charge won’t destroy them as a person.

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    Favourite Andrew Dagg
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    Nov 21st 2013, 12:08 AM

    @jayne travers…. Are you a real person? You are fierce funny…. I got one slap from my father. On my butt, because I called my sister an ass.

    Only one. And it worked.

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    Favourite Gillian Foale
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    Nov 21st 2013, 12:30 AM

    Pleasantly surprised to see these views, I considered not coming in here because I thought most would be against it. I know it’s irrelevant but the lead picture for this story does not paint a true picture of a Sanario where a child gets a smack, in real life they would be behaving like a brat. This picture looks more like child abuse.

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    Favourite Nick Hill
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    Nov 21st 2013, 12:50 AM

    I was at a friend’s wedding in Sanario last summer. Lovely place, expensive though.

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    Favourite Gillian Foale
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    Nov 21st 2013, 12:54 AM

    Everyone loves a wise guy! Stuart must have been a lovely scenario for you.

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    Favourite thomas walsh
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    Nov 21st 2013, 1:02 AM

    Mmmmmmmm, that’s a paddling!!

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    Favourite Gillian Foale
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    Nov 21st 2013, 1:21 AM

    Have I got it wrong again Thomas? I’m not going to lie, even my iPad didn’t know wtf I wanted to say, the other option sounded like a drink!

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    Favourite thomas walsh
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    Nov 21st 2013, 1:32 AM
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    Favourite Gillian Foale
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    Nov 21st 2013, 1:38 AM

    AhHa!

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    Favourite Jessica Keogh
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    Nov 21st 2013, 2:16 AM

    I agree. I got a hard slap when I did something wrong and it did me no harm. Have a daughter now who doesn’t get slapped often but she knows that if she gets one that I mean business!

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    Favourite Luke Sullivan
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    Nov 21st 2013, 2:42 AM

    Won’t be long before they start calling it Domestic corporal punishment, then Domestic violence against children, then domestic violence, then ban it, then jail you for slapping your kid……it’s all ahead of us…..

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    Favourite Sinabhfuil
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    Nov 21st 2013, 7:38 AM

    ‘Spare the rod and spoil the child’ is often used as advice to hit children. But in the original, the word used for ‘rod’ was the word for a shepherd’s crook. What the advice actually means is that you should give your children the kind of careful guidance a shepherd gives his flock – the crook used to hold lambs carefully away from the edge of mountain paths, and pull them back from danger.

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    Favourite Jane Travers
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    Nov 21st 2013, 8:21 AM

    Andrew, I’m very real and you spelled my name wrong.

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    Favourite Jane Travers
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    Nov 21st 2013, 8:22 AM

    Will never happen Luke. People still get away with not seatbelting their kids and the guards do nothing about it. There’s no money in it.

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    Favourite Miss Filed
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    Nov 21st 2013, 8:44 AM

    Depressing how it is always trotted out that anti-social kids would not be anti-social if they were hit more. The FACT is that this is the OPPOSITE of the truth. Research shows again and again that hitting children leads to their being worse behaved and leads to them being more violent in their own lives.

    Hit your children if you must, but just be aware that the evidence is all on the side of not hitting them having better outcomes, both in terms of their own emotional well-being and in terms of the outcomes for their behaviour. Just know if they are well-behaved and pro-social, it is not because you hit them!

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    Favourite Tim Higgins
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    Nov 21st 2013, 11:23 AM

    Kevin – where’s the que forming?

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    Favourite Jean Martin
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    Nov 21st 2013, 12:36 PM

    Jasus I would have killed him!!!!

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    Favourite Mary Mc Carthy
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    Nov 21st 2013, 7:10 PM

    Many a slap I got as a youngster and it made me a more responsible person mindful of other peoples property and rights. That time you could be slapped in school with a ruler by the teacher, but if you complained about this at home you received a bigger slap from my mother ! None of my sisters or myself were ever used as a punching bag but a simple slap or the ‘deadly’ threat of the wooden spoon could put the heart cross wards in us. I have a 26 year old daughter now and I often slapped her when she was small on her bottom……the result….. A child that never once disrespected me or her elders, never got in trouble in school or ever brought trouble to my door!

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    Favourite Vicky Winters
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    Nov 21st 2013, 8:29 PM

    thats what the childrens law brought in last year is all about..a sneaky way for nosey know it alls to judge how we are raising our kids and if they dont agree they can remove them! its a slippery slope!

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    Favourite Daniel Kelso
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    Nov 23rd 2013, 4:25 PM

    Rubbish
    Its all about how you approach things. If you are aggressive and manic then its not good, but if its a stern calm and controlled slap the kid will understand and wont do it again.
    My father did it like this so when i was slapped i felt bad for letting him down so would try not to the same thing again.

    Proper discipline is all about the delivery

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    Favourite Daniel Kelso
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    Nov 23rd 2013, 4:25 PM

    Yes

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    Favourite Rosemary Mclaughlin
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    Dec 17th 2013, 7:22 AM

    Why do people want go hit their little kids….I don’t get it?

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    Favourite Rosemary Mclaughlin
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    Dec 17th 2013, 7:23 AM

    How do you know?

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    Favourite Rosemary Mclaughlin
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    Dec 17th 2013, 7:42 AM

    Exactly….

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    Favourite Spud Jones
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    Dec 18th 2013, 12:21 AM

    Hi rosemary, who you talking to? There is on one here, we are all gone weeks ago, I just said I’d let you know just in case someone locks the doors

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