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Comment #7288114 by Gav Quinn

Gav Quinn Jun 13th 2018, 12:36 PM #

Yeah, lock up a teen for a 50 or 1′er bag and he’s unemployable for life. No point trying to go straight then. It creates career crims.

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Ex-Assistant Commissioner on drug debate: 'Our young people are criminalised, deprived of life chances'

Ex-Assistant Commissioner on drug debate: 'Our young people are criminalised, deprived of life chances'

After 40 years in the force, Jack Nolan said it would be difficult to claim there are less drugs available now.

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    Favourite Ennui Kenny
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    Jun 13th 2018, 2:42 PM

    @Gav Quinn: How about the teen not buying the drugs in the first place?

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    Favourite Termaz Fx
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    Jun 13th 2018, 3:10 PM

    @Ennui Kenny: Please name one instance in the entire human history where saying “dont use drugs”, “dont sell your body for monetary gain” or “be faithful to your spouse” has ever worked.

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    Favourite Mark McDermott
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    Jun 13th 2018, 3:19 PM

    @Ennui Kenny: No, people like to experiment when growing up. Its a big part of life, saying they shouldn’t take it in the first place as an excuse not to legislate for decriminalisation is ridiculous.

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    Favourite Ennui Kenny
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    Jun 13th 2018, 3:38 PM

    @Termaz Fx: Those instances might not have worked but don’t come to me with a sob story if you get caught.

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    Favourite Ennui Kenny
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    Jun 13th 2018, 3:42 PM

    @Mark McDermott: Experimenting is fine but whining on about getting caught carrying out an illegal act is what is really ridiculous. I’d love to do a lot of illegal things that wouldn’t impact on anyone else but I can’t do them because it’s against the law. It’s fairly simple, if you don’t want a criminal conviction don’t break the law.

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    Favourite ihcalaM
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    Jun 13th 2018, 3:45 PM

    @Ennui Kenny: Should everybody be punished long-term for nonviolent mistakes they made when they were young?

    That system is just cruel.

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    Favourite Ennui Kenny
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    Jun 13th 2018, 4:15 PM

    @ihcalaM: I’m not a 100% on the spent convictions Act but I think that after 7 years your conviction disappears off your sheet with the exception of a few offences. The thing is that if an employer sees a drunk and disorderly conviction and you explain that you got a bit sloshed one night on a stag do and got arrested then most employers will just brush it off. If on the other hand you are convicted of buying or possessing illegal substances they may not be so forgiving especially if the position that you are going for is one of trust.

    If you are under 18 the conviction becomes spent when you attain the age of 18 so long as you don’t have any further convictions. Getting into other countries is a matter for those countries as they are not covered by Irish Law.

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